Lever Gun: Large Loop vs Standard Loop


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nc76
March 26, 2009, 07:49 PM
I am leaning towards picking up a lever action carbine and really like the Puma 92. I have decided on the 16" in .357 blued finish. I am leaning towards the one with the standard loop b/c I do not have large hands. I would say my hands are about average at best. I wear a size medium glove most times. I have never had a lever gun outside of a bb gun. Would there be any benefit for getting the large loop over the standard loop? Are they just a novelty or good for people with large hands?

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Oro
March 26, 2009, 08:03 PM
I looked into that this past winter when looking at a Lever gun. The basic concensus I found was it was a show item (read, Hollywood). They got popular with John Wayne and "the Rifleman" fir twirly things. Possibly if you had massive hands they might serve a purpose, but for the average shooter I couldn't find any. Plus I wanted to actually carry and use my gun, and not have extra things to bump and snag (and make it hard to find a scabbard). I went with the regular loop on a Winchester 1894.

Gunfighter123
March 26, 2009, 08:04 PM
I shoot a lot of Cowboy Action and found the large loop to be slower to use then the regular loop.

MMCSRET
March 26, 2009, 08:34 PM
I purchased lever guns used, that had the large loop, I ordered standard levers from Brownells and changed them out. My saddle scabbard is very close fitting and the large loop kept the rifle from sliding all the way in. When I was carrying the rifle the large loop was awkward for me to use, and I don't like the way they look.

amd6547
March 26, 2009, 09:03 PM
I found the large loop to be faster...just shove the lever hand down and forward, the shape of the loop operates the action, no need to twist the wrist.

jkingrph
March 26, 2009, 09:11 PM
I replaced the factory levers on a couple of Marlin Cowboys, 336, and 1895, as well as a Guide gun. The small lever actually hurt my hand in recoil. I went with the smallest of the large loops, a DRC model. They look good and feel even better. I was not concerned about speed, jusst feel.

Alex123456
March 26, 2009, 09:15 PM
I'm thinking of replacing the factory lever on my Marlin 1894. It's just too small and uncomfortable. My hands aren't huge either.

cibach
March 26, 2009, 09:17 PM
I prefer the large levers.. I have a winchester in 45LC and love it..

Kman
March 26, 2009, 09:17 PM
They can be an asset when hunting the northern timber in subzero temps, don't have to take off the mitt to get proper grip around the wrist.

.375
March 26, 2009, 09:45 PM
I have a large lever model 94. I really like it. As was said it is very comfortable and can be pushed down instead of moving your hand to grab it.

a-sheepdog
March 27, 2009, 01:03 AM
I have a slightly oversized lever loop on my Marlin 45-70 and like it much better than the standard factory lever.

gga357
March 27, 2009, 01:21 AM
It's too bad there are so many 44-40 USRAC out there new and no 45lc or .357

MAX100
March 27, 2009, 02:14 AM
LSI Puma rifles are now made Italy and cost around $950. Their are few of the LSI imported Rossi made 92s around. Taurus bought Rossi and will be offering the 92 rifles under the Braztech name. Not sure which barrel lengths and calibers they will be offering.


GC

Dr. Fresh
March 27, 2009, 04:10 AM
I could see using one with thick gloves, but otherwise I prefer standard loops.

woof
March 27, 2009, 09:05 AM
Here's another reason - lever wraps. If your loop is tight already especially with gloves, the addition of a lever wrap can make it too tight. lever wraps are nice on the knuckles.

messerist
March 27, 2009, 09:19 AM
Since we are on the subject of loops does anyone know where I can get one for a Marlin 1894? My Brother is in Iraq and wanted to get one for his Marlin but never had time before he left. I want to get one for him and get it installed before he gets back.:)

moooose102
March 27, 2009, 09:20 AM
i am not a fan of the big loops. to me, they look ugly. even with my big paws, and warm gloves, i have no trouble with standard levers.

Double Naught Spy
March 27, 2009, 11:45 AM
I have 2 1895s abd considered a larger loop, but never had any problems with the regular loop. Now if I was in the northern clines and wore multiple layers of gloves, the the regular loop might be an issue.

Otherwise, it is quick, comfortable, and doesn't waste space.

wyocarp
March 27, 2009, 12:03 PM
Having both, I like the large loop levers. They are more comfortable, easier to use, and I don't find they get in the way at all.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn286/wyocarp/HPIM9568.jpg

JFrame
March 27, 2009, 12:17 PM
I have the standard (small) loop on my Winchester Trapper. Among other reasons, I bought it because I liked the fact that it was compact and flat. I don't like the thought of increasing its dimensions or bulk in any way...

ArmedBear
March 27, 2009, 12:24 PM
There are variations of the large loop.

Personally, I like the standard loop, but with a lever wrap. I designed and made a comfortable wrap that goes on and off in a few seconds.

Shooting a brick of .22s through a Marlin 39 can leave your fingers bruised, without padding of some sort (gloves or a wrap).

The variants of the large lever I've liked are not as big as the old TV/movie levers. This is one version, from Grizzly:

http://www.grizzlycustom.com/new/pagephotos/lever_pkg_lever_1.jpg

Zerstoerer
March 27, 2009, 01:56 PM
Who makes a larger loop for the Marlin 336?

ArmedBear
March 27, 2009, 02:00 PM
Grizzly does.

http://www.grizzlycustom.com/new/pagephotos/lever_pkg_left_1.jpg

Dan Crocker
March 27, 2009, 02:09 PM
Wyocarp: How often do you go Tyrannosaur hunting with that beast? ;-)

1858
March 27, 2009, 02:40 PM
Who makes a larger loop for the Marlin 336?

DRC and Wild West Guns both make them. You can buy them from MidwayUSA and other places I'm sure. I've been thinking about this upgrade for my '94 and both '95s. I have fairly big paws and find the OEM levers a bit tight. I'm not sure if they're available for the '94 but here are a couple for the '95s but DRC also makes them for the 336 and Midway sells them.

Wild West big loop lever (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=446481)

DRC big loop lever (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=246566)

Another option if you have a TIG/MIG welder and some time is to cut/weld/grind/polish the OEM lever to your liking ... should be fairly easy, particularly for the stainless version since it only requires a brushed finish of some sort.

:)

foghornl
March 27, 2009, 02:46 PM
I have tried a couple of Marlin 336's with the "mid-size" loop, along the line of what ArmedBear shows. I prefered that over the really generously sized Big Loop like Wyocarps rifle, when I am not using a standard-loop gun.

publiuss
March 27, 2009, 04:07 PM
Unless you have problems w/the small lever hurting your hand under recoil (I've never had or known anyone w/that problem. I think they are mainly for looks unless you wear gloves all the time.

SlamFire1
March 27, 2009, 10:36 PM
Unless you have problems w/the small lever hurting your hand under recoil (I've never had or known anyone w/that problem. I think they are mainly for looks unless you wear gloves all the time.

The factory lever on my Marlin M1894 will bruise my fingers. I have to wrap my fingers on the outside of the thing, and it still is not comfortable.

My hands are bigger than the average 19th century person. But the factory loop has not changed.

wyocarp
March 27, 2009, 10:45 PM
Wyocarp: How often do you go Tyrannosaur hunting with that beast? ;-)

Often enough that I was just called yesterday to say that the one I've been waiting on for well over a year is done. You know that we still Tyrannosaurous Rex here in Wyoming.

I spring and fall hunt a lot in grizzly country and I like a gun that goes boom. Some on here don't feel caliber means anything, I'm not one of them. When I shoot something, it drops. I know many don't believe in one shot drops either, I do and I think caliber has a lot to do with it. Most things don't live long with a half inch hole all the way through it.

wyocarp
March 27, 2009, 10:47 PM
armedbear, I like your grizzly lever in post 21.

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