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wankerjake
March 27, 2009, 01:36 AM
I did a quick search and didn't find what I was looking for. What is the process to ship live ammunition? Can it go priority mail of does it have to go ups or fed-ex? I know I have seen the directions on this site before but i couldn't find anything. Thanks gun gurus,
-Jake

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WardenWolf
March 27, 2009, 03:38 AM
A simple ORM-D label and it can go through any carrier, though they may require ground shipment and charge a little more. Note that I have received ORM-D labeled stuff through the mail before, and I'm quite certain it was Priority. It wasn't ammo, though, but it's classed just the same.

quicherbichen
March 27, 2009, 04:35 AM
http://www.adazonusa.com/howtoshipammunitionorammo-a-45.html

I shipped some a while back through UPS, made my own orm-d with black marker. The lady at the counter didn't ask any questions, pulled out their stickers and slapped a few on.

Yelim
March 27, 2009, 07:23 AM
Noy sure but think it can not fly. Ground only.

Superlite27
March 27, 2009, 11:37 AM
I shipped a case of ammo to a friend through UPS several months ago. You have to label it ORM-D, so I printed out a sticker and taped it to the box. When I went to the UPS store, the lady asked, "What's that sticker?" So I said, "It's required to ship bullets." She said, "It's illegal to ship bullets." So I said, "No it's not. That's why the sticker is on there." She said, "Oh." and took the package.

My friend received it several days later, so evidently, it worked.

jimmyraythomason
March 27, 2009, 11:50 AM
Ammo MUST go by ground regardless of carrier. Most shippers resist accepting ammo for shipment and satelite stores will NOT accept it(you must ship from a hub). I have given up on shipping ammo because of the hassle. BTW,if you hide the fact that it is ammo from the shipper and a bomb sniffing dog locates it at the airport.........

Keb
March 27, 2009, 11:50 AM
You Can Not Use The Post Office

EOD Guy
March 27, 2009, 01:38 PM
Noy sure but think it can not fly. Ground only.

Not true. Ammunition can be shipped by air, but it is not practical to do so. The ammunition would have to classed as a Division 1.4S explosive material and ship as a fully regulated hazardous material shipment under IATA/ICAO regulations. This would cost much more than the ammunition would be worth, between the HAZMAT charges and the weight of the material.

The shipper would also have to be a certified explosives shipper and certified as a dangerous goods shipper under IATA/ICAO.

Here are the DOT reguations for shipping small arms ammunition by ground as ORM-D material.

Code of Federal Regulations, Title 49, Part 173

173.63 Packaging exceptions

(b) Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices. (1) Cartridges, small arms and cartridges power devices (which are used to project fastening devices) which have been classed as a Division 1.4S explosive may be reclassed, offered for transportation, and transported as ORM-D material when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section; such transportation is excepted from the requirements of subparts E (Labeling) and F (Placarding) of part 172 of this subchapter. Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices that may be shipped as ORM-D material is limited to:

(i) Ammunition for rifle, pistol, or shotgun;
(ii) Ammunition with inert projectiles or blank ammunition;
(iii) Ammunition having no tear gas, incendiary, or detonating explosive projectiles;
(iv) Ammunition not exceeding 12.7 mm (50 caliber or 0.5 inch) for rifle or pistol, cartridges or 8 gauge for shotshells; and
(v) Cartridges power devices which are used to project fastening devices.

(2) Packaging for cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices as ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions which fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 Kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.

Part 172 (Marking)

172.316 Packagings containing material classed as ORM-D

(a) Each non-bulk packaging containing a material classed as ORM-D must be marked on at least one side or end with the ORM-D designation immediately following or below the proper shipping name of the material (Cartridges, Small Arms). The ORM designation must be placed within a rectangle that is approximately 6.3 mm (0.25 inches) larger on each side than the designation.

(b) The marking ORM-D is the certification by the person offering the packaging for transportation that the material is properly described, classed, packaged, marked and labeled (when appropriate) and in proper condition for transportation according to the applicable regulations of this subchapter.

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