Newbie wants guns


March 27, 2009, 11:14 AM
Hi guys,

This is my first posting. I don't have a gun yet, but I'm anxious to get a few. I think this might be the place to hook up

A little info about me. I had a .22 semi when I was a kid (healthy, normal American family). Haven't had one since then, but I've got the hankerin' now.

I'd like to buy two, and hopefully, someone on this forum has a couple to sell.

I'd like an AK for home defense (and for basic freedom principles), and I'd like a suitable pig gun to help rid Texas of it feral hogs and to barbeque. I think I'd like a semi for the pig gun, definitely with a scope.

I'd pay the going price, and I want to buy immediately.

It's ok to email me:

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Yo Mama
March 27, 2009, 11:20 AM
I'd like an AK for home defense (and for basic freedom principles),

Welcome! AK not so good for home defense, unless you don't have any one else living with you or any neighbors close by. Great for freedom principles though.

Shotgun will normally be the best for the home, and you'll be more than able to get a pig with a slug.

March 27, 2009, 11:30 AM
Try these.

Gunbroker (

Auction Arms (

Guns America (

They have it all.

March 27, 2009, 11:36 AM
Place a WTB add in the Trading post section here. On the AK your best bet is either here with the WASR 10:

Or get a Saiga and convert it to an AK type rifle yourself.

March 27, 2009, 11:38 AM
Thanks Yo Mama!
I live in safe neighborhood (or so I think), so the odd of my principles being infringed upon are probably far greater than my home being compromised. Besides, people who hate guns especially hate AK’s, so there’s some satisfaction there as well.
I really can afford two guns, I think, but it’d be nice to have the same ammo for both. So I’m not averse to an AR type gun and pig gun (.223). So what would you recommend being an expert?

March 27, 2009, 11:39 AM
Being that you are in Austin...

If you need an FFL transfer, check with SAM at Action Pawn on 183 near Cedar Park. He has very low transfer rates. I have worked with him several times and he is definitely good people.

Austin, Texas

March 27, 2009, 11:45 AM
Thanks ProCarry! I'm very close to him.

Art Eatman
March 27, 2009, 01:08 PM
.223 wouldn't be my choice for hogs. Sorta "general principles", but I'd think more highly of something like a .30-30 or a .308...

March 27, 2009, 03:21 PM
That's what some others have said as well; that the 308 might be a better choice. Decisions, decisions. The more I read on the forum, the more convinced I am that everyone is right. Not too many fence straddlers when gun talk is concerned.

March 27, 2009, 03:31 PM
Friend of my uncle's shot his finger off with a Desert Eagle, trying to get a hog with it.

March 27, 2009, 03:33 PM
I just find it ironic, as a russian american that you want an AK for excercise of freedoms. hehe. Get an AR-15... do americans proud, and leave the ak's to me, at least as a first gun.

I would have to agree with the others here that for home defense a shot gun will be better.

If you catch the bug bad... and are going to want to shoot often, I suggest getting a .22 lr plinker.

I need to go shoot a few times a week, and without reloading, dread buying ammo....

A brick (500 or so) rounds of 22lr is $12.99 at walmart for bulk winchester.
I just paid $12.98 a box (50 rounds) for 9mm. =P You can shoot ten times as much with a 22lr. and quite honestly, the 9mm is not ten time as enjoyable as a 22. =)

Hungry Seagull
March 27, 2009, 03:45 PM
Maksim, ammuniton is easier to find for the AK than it is for the US guns now.

Harder hitting too.

And what is this I hear about the Russian Military adapting our own tatics and battle methods to improve thier military hmm? :neener:

March 27, 2009, 03:49 PM
Get an AR-10 style platform and you've got both bases covered.

March 27, 2009, 03:53 PM
SKS makes a very handy pig gun, the 7.62x39 is good for the task, and is handy.

Plenty of accessories to add on to it, too, if a person wants. Lets a person add an Ak or variant with no ammo complications.

Add in a Ruger 10/22 and you have an spiffy .22LR platform that will be inexpensive to run, and can be accessorized to what ever level you want (like this, if wanted:<g>)

April 3, 2009, 04:40 PM

Just arrived, my new Saiga 308. Everybody is saying good things about this gun, and how appropriate it is for pig hunting. I bought a used Nikon 3X9 scope, and it's just wonderful. Ordered 500 rounds for practice and hopefully, hunting. It seems like a great all-purpose gun.

Now, I need to get it sighted in. Any suggestions?


April 3, 2009, 05:09 PM
A Saiga 308...ok:)

April 3, 2009, 05:49 PM
Here it is

April 3, 2009, 05:51 PM
550 for the gun, 90 for the scope (used nikon) and 4 for the case. Yup. The guys at Action Pawn gave me the case for 4 dollars. Thanks for the reference to Action Pawn

April 3, 2009, 05:53 PM
Maksim, ammuniton is easier to find for the AK than it is for the US guns now.

Not true...

April 3, 2009, 06:09 PM
Now, I need to find experienced people who will get me up to speed; sighting, where to hunt, and whom to hunt with (see, "whom." I'm an English teacher).

I'm all up for suggestions, and I'm very willing to follow instructions.

April 3, 2009, 06:10 PM
Also, I ordered the 25 round mag.

April 3, 2009, 07:06 PM
Also, I ordered the 25 round mag.Putting that in the gun will make it illegal per 922(r) regulations, but you can fix that by swapping out a few parts. See

Look around there and you'll find everything you need to know about conversion, parts resources, and the 922(r) laws. Conversion is fairly cheap and easily done.

Saiga's are great; you'll like it.

April 3, 2009, 11:51 PM
at the next gunshow in Austin, look for Saigas. As for 22's, anything by marlin will be very good; mod 60 mod 795, mod 7000 mod 99. all semi autos, the last 2 will be used and older. Also a remmy 597 would be good as well.
since you are a newb to 22's , avoid the ruger 10.22.

also , you will need an ak front site tool, if you ever wanna shoot it open sites, or need to.

April 4, 2009, 12:21 AM
1. you want a home defence rifle [x]
2. you want an AK-47 [x]
3. you want a pig gub [x]

1. get a shotgun/handgun
2. get an AK (works for hogs too)
3. the ak is not enough??? ok..get a mosin M44 ;) (hog killing round)

April 4, 2009, 12:35 AM
You guys have been great! It's a pretty steep learning curve. I want thank to ProCarry for suggesting Action Pawn. They did the FFL transfer painless.

This 922 complience thing seems to be pretty weird. You can make it more complient by making it more of an assult type weapon simply by using American parts? If this is how I understand it, then those people in Washington are pretty dumb. If you make it a little more like an assult rifle, you can make it more complient (less of a risk to society, I suppose) by making more like an assult rifle. Is that right?


April 4, 2009, 01:36 AM
Yes and No. You aren't really making it MORE of an "assault weapon," you are merely replacing existing parts on the rifle with parts made in the US. Although the replacement parts CAN be a little more tacticool such as switching out the handguards for rails, etc.

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