700 SPS tactical, Another Report. Sub MOA in the wind


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Pat4x4
March 27, 2009, 08:36 PM
Hey Guys.. Just went out and and had a great day with the new gun.. It is windy here at 10 to 20MPH.. But even with the wind I am super happy with the results.. I started yesturday doing a barrel break in with cheap cheap ammo.. I know, I know but it does not hurt if you try to break it in.. Anyways today I went for a few groups.. I shot a couple groups of 5 with the noname cheapy stuff.. I was kinda disapointed.. then I threw 10 rounds of Federal Gold Metal Match 168gr in it.. All I can say is Ammo makes all the differance;)


Scope, Nikon Buckmaster 4.5x14x40
Deadnutz low scope mount
I opened up the stock at the barrel end to make sure it floats with the bipod.. super easy:)

Here are some pics of the results

First at 110 yards with cheapo ammo


http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/pat4x44wd/700cheapsmall.jpg


Then with The FGMM same conditions.. notice the zero lower with the 168's vs 150's


http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/pat4x44wd/SPSFGMM99.jpg


then just a shot of the gun


http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/pat4x44wd/700tac.jpg

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The Deer Hunter
March 27, 2009, 08:43 PM
I think you're supposed to measure center to center, if it makes you feel any better :)

Pat4x4
March 27, 2009, 08:52 PM
not if you subtract the Diameter of the bullet:p

Redneck with a 40
March 27, 2009, 09:06 PM
I'm headin' out Sunday to shoot my reloads, 168 gr Matchking, 42.2 grains H-4895, Remington primer, Remington case. I've been shooting 150's and I'm zeroed in for that, looks like I need to dial my scope up 4 clicks = 2 inches at 200 yards, that should be close.:) I'm also shooting a Remmy 700 SPS tactical, nikon pro-staff 3-9x.:)

My matchgrade reloads cost me $7/box of 20 vs the $35-$40 you spent on the factory stuff.:neener:

Pat4x4
March 27, 2009, 11:12 PM
Na, the federal GMM stuff can be bought for $24 online.. Reloading is the way to go though:) I will be investing sooner or later

FrontRangeSPS
March 28, 2009, 04:42 AM
Nice rifle! Looks just like mine!
http://www.nemesispbteam.com/Skylar/IMGP0664sm.jpg

I do not want to hyjack your thread, would you mind if I posted a pic of my grouping with Remington Core-Lokt 150 GR. at 100yds? Not as impressive as your grouping but I think the ammo had a lot to do with it, had to go with what i could find!

LTR shooter
March 28, 2009, 12:50 PM
All I can say is Ammo makes all the difference

So very true , that is why Federal Gold Medal Match is loaded with match bullets. All my reloads are with Sierra or Berger match bullets. Nice shooting!

Pat4x4
March 28, 2009, 01:29 PM
Post away.. Your not hijacking my thread:D the more the merrier

Redneck with a 40
March 28, 2009, 02:33 PM
Here's mine :

She's a shooter, with factory Remington 150 grain Core-Lokt ammo, I'm getting 1-1.5" groups at 100 yards. Last weekend, my Core-Lokt reloads, 150 grain, delivered a 2" group at 200 yards.:) The potential of this rifle is very high, accuracy wise. My Core-Lokt reloads were pretty much just slapped together, delivered 2" at 200 yards. I can't wait to shoot my 168 gr Matchking loads, tommorrow.:)

Pat4x4
March 28, 2009, 02:49 PM
Did you clearance your stock up where the barrel meets it? I did and noticed a little differance.. I used my air die grinder with a carbide burr and it cleaned it up real nice.. Now it does not touch on the bipod or bag

Redneck with a 40
March 28, 2009, 03:17 PM
I'm not worried about it, if I can get .5" groups at 100 yards, or 1.5" at 200 yards, I'll be thrilled. I'm betting my matchking loads will do it.:)

SpeedAKL
March 28, 2009, 03:24 PM
I have the SPS-V (26-in barrel), it will group the cheap Core-Lokts roughly 1-in at 100 yards.

Pat4x4
March 28, 2009, 03:58 PM
good shooting, lets see it :)

Its all about finding what your gun likes.. I will do some experimenting to see what cheaper ammo this gun likes too, there will be something I am sure that will shoot better than the first target

Pat4x4
March 28, 2009, 03:59 PM
Yea, it shoots good already.. But it took me maybe 5 minutes to make a noticable improvement

FrontRangeSPS
March 29, 2009, 02:10 AM
Once again this is from 100yds with Rem Core-Lokt 150gr, not to bad for my last 5 shot group, fired 40 rounds through it.
The orange bullseye is approx. 1.75", the last 2 shots are the ones out on the left in the orange, tried to move the group to center once I knew that it was consitant! Had to make some adjustments to the bipod to get it to be consistant, the rubber stock allowed it to move around a little until i got it tightened and adjusted right!

http://nemesispbteam.com/Skylar/IMGP0681sm.jpg

I assume you just removed some of the "rubber" from the forend? It does touch, barely, with the bipod and bag, I may need to give it a touch up with the dremmel

Pat4x4
March 29, 2009, 02:39 AM
Looking good.. Yea that is just what I did.. From taking the stock off to putting it back on was about 5 minutes:D Just used my shop carbide burr cleaned it up real quick.. then ran a Dollar bill under the barrel with it on the bipod all the way back to the receiver to make sure it was clear..

It came out real Clean.. I thought it might chew up the rubber and look bad.. But it came out perfect.. Even took a second to make sure it was shaped nice and round still

FrontRangeSPS
March 29, 2009, 12:18 PM
I think I will do this today, I already adjusted my trigger, that was the only thing I wasn't happy with, took way to much to get it to break

Pat4x4
March 29, 2009, 01:02 PM
Tell me about adjusting it.. I thought I saw a link on how to do it but cant find it.. I have searched but no luck yet.. Do you know where the link is?

Martyk
March 29, 2009, 01:15 PM
it depends on the trigger you have. I adjusted mine down to about 3 pounds. It was easy and it's a beautiful. I can group sub 1/2 inch MOA w/ my reloads without breaking a sweat.

Check out this like for some ideas:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=434832

Pat4x4
March 29, 2009, 01:22 PM
thanks for the link

Antihero47
March 29, 2009, 02:08 PM
I'm about to head to the range with my 155SMK and 175SMK loads. Mine is loving the 175's and I can usually get them to about 3/4". The thing that I thought was really hampering me was my trigger. Every time I shot my rifle on a bench and crept the trigger it felt like forever... I would eventually hit the brick wall and have to press a little harder to let it go.

I have since adjusted the trigger pull way down... Its VERY crisp now, and I am very excited to get to the range and see how this affects my groups.

Well I'm off... I will let you guys know how it goes. Also, I need to look into free floating the barrel.

Pat4x4
March 29, 2009, 02:32 PM
Man I need to get into reloading:D Just picked up another 100 FGMM yesturday for $25 a box.. bigmoney ouch:eek:

My Trigger feels Fantastic other than being a little high on the pull. I am guessing 5lbs.. But it has Zero creep and no over travel.. I like it alot.. I am about to scrape the glue off mine as I speak and bring the pull down some..;)

Iansstud
March 29, 2009, 03:52 PM
Man I need to get into reloading Just picked up another 100 FGMM yesturday for $25 a box.. bigmoney ouch


where do you get your ammo from? is that .308 FGMM 168?

Pat4x4
March 29, 2009, 04:09 PM
Yea, it is the good stuff.. Part number gm308m I think is the number.. Picked it up at buds guns online.. dont let the pic fool you on their advertisement.. it shows the correct part number ;)

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411536157

Pat4x4
March 29, 2009, 04:14 PM
Just got done adjusting my trigger.. And man it does not get much easier than that.. Still as crisp as can be and way lower of a pull.. I too don't have a scale to check the before and after but I went as low as I wanted it to be.. Checked function and safety.. Re-glued the screw and now we are off to the races

Iansstud
March 29, 2009, 04:29 PM
Hey be careful!!! I went shooting my ar yesterday, and my sp-10 followed by my sps tactical...

I spaced the fact that I had a 7lb trigger on the 1st two guns, and a 2# on my sps.... I guess its a good thing I keep my finger OFF the trigger and safety ON until I am ready to shoot.

anyways, I was not expecting it. I took aim, flipped the safe off, put my finger on the trigger, applyed a little pressure (as I am used to) and Kaboom! I still hit the target in the 8 ring, but was sooner then thought...:o

Pat4x4
March 29, 2009, 04:37 PM
Yea, for sure.. Lucky for me I am pretty used to light triggers since all guns but a couple have them.. But your right.. Pull a hard trigger for a while then switching must be like wearing Leg weights for a day then taking them off and feeling like you are walking on air:D

Iansstud
March 29, 2009, 09:12 PM
Im glad I follow safety rules, but I was NOT ready to send that shot!!! It was not seated in my shoulder right, and POW!!!

Pat4x4
March 29, 2009, 09:15 PM
Looks like you were not following safety rules:D Never put your finger on the trigger till you are ready to shoot:neener:

Pat4x4
April 13, 2009, 12:10 AM
went and shot again today.. And man am I pleased with this rifle.. took it out to 200 yards today and finally shot with no real wind..

I shot 2 groups at 200 yards.. first was a 3 shot group less than a inch( was checking my zero after 100 yards).. and the second was a 5 shot group at 1.29"

It was prone again with a harris bipod, calm winds, Federal gold medal match 168's..

I have said it before but for the money this is just a awsome rifle.. :p

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/pat4x44wd/200group5.jpg


http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/pat4x44wd/200yardscope1.jpg


http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/pat4x44wd/200yard2.jpg

briangsxr600
April 13, 2009, 10:52 PM
I am thinking about picking one up in a couple weeks. will have to try to figure out what scope to get with it.

Pat4x4
April 15, 2009, 10:31 PM
Oh no, I bought a 10fcp today in 308 with the accustock

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?p=2158340

Now I will do a back to back and see who wins.. :D

adam500
April 16, 2009, 10:15 AM
I will be interested to see let us know how they both shoot together!!

Pat4x4
April 16, 2009, 11:19 AM
I will.. Once It gets out of Ca gun jail I will do a good side by side on them.. I really am looking forward to seeing the differance the brake makes.. I know alot of folks say it really smoothes them out.. I know the 308 is not too bad to begin with but for the quick second shot it will hopefully make a differance.. Maybe my 12 year old will even want to shoot it:D

Pat4x4
April 22, 2009, 10:17 PM
Dry fired the the savage yesterday at gun jail... And the remington has a better trigger.. the accutrigger has a small amount of creep just like the one I allready have.. Dont get me wrong the Savage is still nice but I here people bashing the X-mark and I am trying to figure out why.. It is is the best trigger I have had.. Breaks so clean.. Will have more updates soon

briangsxr600
May 11, 2009, 09:57 PM
I got my 700 sps today and cant wait to get out and try it out. does anyone have a good load so far for this rifle.

Pat4x4
May 11, 2009, 11:39 PM
yea, Redneck 40 has been doing some of his own loading and having really good luck.. search his posts.. you will love this rifle:D

Redneck with a 40
May 12, 2009, 08:47 PM
Hey Brian, the load I'm running is 42.5 grains of IMR 4064, Federal GMM case (gold metal match), Remington 9-1/2 primer, and a Sierra 168 gr SMK. This load produce a 1" 200 yard group last weekend.:) They are a little slow out of my rifle, at 2510 fps, but its very accurate, at least in my rifle.

rundm
May 13, 2009, 11:14 PM
mine is shooting 2-3in's at 300yds so far. I have an hs precision stock on mine though. I have used 168gr a maxs to load mine up with varget gmm primers and norma cases so far. at 100, I have a couple of 1/2in groups to show for it. RG

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
May 13, 2009, 11:21 PM
He did measure C-T-C - they way you do it is take the measurement you see there (1.29"), and subtract the bullet diameter (.308), to come up with 0.982 - he has .99 - close enough. :)

Great shootin and nice rifle!

DAdams
May 14, 2009, 08:06 AM
has them in stock. $573 delivered and purportedly one of the top ten sellers.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/42070

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