Antis CAN be logical...


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indoorsoccerfrea
March 29, 2009, 01:42 AM
http://www.hulu.com/watch/25712/30-days-gun-nation#s-p1-so-i0

about 46 minutes long, but an excellent video showing how logic and reason and education can change someone

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cbrgator
March 29, 2009, 02:42 AM
Not a bad show. There was a little bit of incorrect information, but it didn't seem intentional. I was surprised about how it didn't seem to have anti gun slant to it.

gallo
March 29, 2009, 03:56 AM
It was fairly neutral, except it ended on the note that some level of regulation (aside from what currently exists) is still needed to further restrict gun ownership by criminals. Whereas this can be seen as a noble, well intentioned argument, it does not address the fact that criminals do not obey any kind of law.

The same for the anti gun families: sad as their stories were, the families failed to see how regulating guns would or will change their lives. On the other hand, the last man interviewed who used his gun to defend his family was the one that made the most convincing pro gun argument.

This is a logic vs. emotion argument. It is very hard to win if the majority of people are on the emotional side.

mordechaianiliewicz
April 2, 2009, 02:24 PM
None of any of these shootings in MA were explained in terms of who was perpetrating the shootings. But, the guy who defended himself explained the individual who went after him and his. This is part of the greatest issue with blaming inanimate objects. It deflects blame from who actually committed a crime.

I was an anti, from an anti family myself. But, I've never trusted the government, I've always taken an individual/family support approach as opposed to the whole "We're all in this together" approach, and I've always wanted to avoid dependency on others. These tendencies led to my enjoyment of firearms, especially once it became clear to me, that more than any criminal, the government (whichever one) is the most dangerous to people, and historically, the only way to stop government has been force(once it won't accept democratic reforms). I don't think that would have worked on her, because she didn't have the same root beliefs. She clearly trusts the government, and believes the "I am my brother's keeper" etc. concepts.

Exposing her to America's gun culture was probably the best thing. Many times total imersion is best.... She wasn't a bad person. Clearly nice. It was very nice what she did for the guy's son. But, most people who are anti-gun aren't bad, they're just ignorant.

Dope
April 2, 2009, 05:38 PM
Pretty fair, if anything I'd say it was very pro-gun. There were lots of narrative comments dispelling common myths and 99% of the show portrayed gun owners as responsible, normal people.

Dope

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