Transforming my Savage 110 into "Sniper"


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LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
March 29, 2009, 04:12 PM
Okay, so my project is making a handy little "sniper"/long-range rifle out of my Savage 110. I wanna be different in long range, and keeping my rifle chambered in .243 Winchester is a must. I need a cheap (but not a crummy grade) heavy Barrel, 20" or less, and a good looking stock that will fit, preferably a synthetic one.

Can anyone help me out here?

Here's some pictures of it now, and this is before. I've got a Leapers UTG 5th Gen 6-24x50 on the way for optics.

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SaxonPig
March 29, 2009, 04:36 PM
According to Brady and the Democrats any rifle with a scope is a "sniper weapon."

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
March 29, 2009, 04:43 PM
Sniper weapon it is then, lol. Any ideas for a barrel and stock?

gvnwst
March 29, 2009, 04:45 PM
I don't know where to get a synthetic stock, but i like these...:
http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/LVT_Stock.html

As for a barrel, i have heard that Adams & Bennett barrels are pretty good, and they are like $80 for a blank from midwayusa.com.

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
March 29, 2009, 04:47 PM
Thank you GVNWST that looks like a pretty decent stock. We'll see what others come up and go from there.

I can't seem to find a darker colored barrel at Midway. I'd like a parkerized or blued finish.

skinewmexico
March 30, 2009, 12:33 AM
I like the B&C Medalist varmint stocks. And if you watch on Savageshooters.com, you can probably find a 243 barrel.

yesit'sloaded
March 30, 2009, 12:37 AM
Why does it have to stay .243? Since .243 is a necked down .308 the bolt doesn't need to be changed and there are so many more options in the aftermarket for a .308 110.

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
March 30, 2009, 12:07 PM
Because I wanna be different, and .308 is one of the most overused calibers in my oppinion so I wanna stay in the .243 chambering to be different.

dagger dog
March 30, 2009, 04:16 PM
If you don't mind the weight, a Choate Ultimate Sniper full aluminum beded free floatd barrel stock comes with 3 cheek riser spacers and 3 LOP spacers, then go for a Shilen Varmint 1 in 8 twist replacement barrel, have it chopped and recrowned

Stock 179.00$
Barrell varmint profile 275.00$
barrel cut recrown about 75.00 $
Headspace gauge barrel swap 30$ All available through Midway USA

sell your old barrel 75$

do the barrel swap yourself (easy)
$559
-$75
$484 for a Shilen barreled 6mm homebrew sniper.

Later lay out another 150 bucks for a match grade replacement trigger from Rifle Basics.

Zak Smith
March 30, 2009, 04:49 PM
It is more useful to think carefully about what you want to accomplish and build a rifle that will succeed at those tasks than to apply a nebulous label or build a copy of something else.

If you simply want to shoot a longer distances, all you need is a scope which has the capability to do so, provided the gun fits you and is reasonable accurate now.

skinewmexico
March 30, 2009, 08:58 PM
Why does it have to stay .243? Since .243 is a necked down .308 the bolt doesn't need to be changed and there are so many more options in the aftermarket for a .308 110.

Same number of options. And a 243 will smoke a 308 at long distance (http://www.6mmbr.com/243Win.html). An A&B barrel is roughly equivalent to a factory barrel, so I'd set my sights a little higher.

Zak Smith
March 30, 2009, 09:01 PM
It smokes .308 only if you have a fast twist barrel and shoot a high-BC bullet. Otherwise 308 will beat a typical 70gr .243 load.

alemonkey
March 30, 2009, 09:37 PM
Look into Shilen barrels. They sell prechambered Savage barrels that you can install yourself with a barrel nut wrench and a headspace gauge.

Guero4179
March 30, 2009, 10:00 PM
You could go .260 Rem or 7mm08 and get better barrel life.

rangerruck
March 31, 2009, 04:50 AM
the b/c, mcMillan, and choate stocks are all good, I favor the b/c though, just a bit, a really good stock for the 110's. also I like the idea of a shilen 1/8 twist, that is a beaut of a bbl, length though; I am at a loss here. Normally , I would say go with a 26 inch bbl, to really get the most out of your 243 ammo, but with a heavy bbl, it will be... well.... heavy. But because 243 ammo is fast, you can fully lose 25 to 50 fps per inch of bbl, with a fast ammo. So you could lose 100 to 200 fps of muzzle velocity, in just those 4 inches of bbl. For small bullets, muzzle speed , in my opinion is the essence of everything that they do well, downrange, especially at helping you to buck the wind. So it is your choice.

rangerruck
March 31, 2009, 04:53 AM
oh yeah, so I am deff AGAINST your ' 20 inch or less' bbl length...

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
March 31, 2009, 01:14 PM
well to each his own, lol Rangerruck

I want 20 inches or less because I like the look of the shorter barrel on my rifle. the current one is 18 inches so...

texas chase
March 31, 2009, 03:29 PM
Interesting article on 6mmbr.com regarding the .243 loaded w/ 115 gr bullets. Anybody shoot the 105 gr Hornady A-Max. I run 162 gr. A-max bullets in my 7mm rem mag and they are fantastic. 0.625 BC bucks wind very well.

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
April 1, 2009, 01:21 PM
I think I have decided on my stock, but I'm still taking suggestions.

It's a Technicarbon Dynamics Tek 2000.

skinewmexico
April 1, 2009, 03:59 PM
It smokes .308 only if you have a fast twist barrel and shoot a high-BC bullet.

And why would a person do anything but a fast twist barrel and high BC bullet?

Justin
April 1, 2009, 04:29 PM
LJ, what distances are you intending to shoot at?

What size of target do you envision using this rifle on?

Zak Smith
April 1, 2009, 04:33 PM
And why would a person do anything but a fast twist barrel and high BC bullet?
The OP implied that the current barrel was .243:
and keeping my rifle chambered in .243 Winchester is a must.
and one logical possibility of "keeping the rifle chambered in .243" is keeping the current barrel, which ostensibly factory, probably does not have a fast twist.

In retrospect, the photos make the bore size look larger than .243, but I was going on what he wrote.

SimpleIsGood229
April 1, 2009, 04:35 PM
My opinion is that if you're going to upgrade for long range purposes, you may as well get about a 24" barrel. Kinda defeats the purpose to have an 18"-20" barrel on a long range rifle. It's about performance, not looks. ;-)

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
April 1, 2009, 10:39 PM
Okay so upon thinking, I am highly tempted on going to .308, but I still need to make that decision. Targets are human silhouettes and others out to 1000 yards just to say I can, and I need a heavier barrel to accomplish that (the bore is almost a sewer pipe in my rifle, and it's got something to do with barrel harmonics being as short and thin as it is that isn't allowing it to be very accurate, regardless of the worn threads.)

If that makes any sense.

But it IS a .243 Winchester, and yes, the picture does make it look like it's got a bigger bore, but it's a crappy cell phone camera so... anyways.

I did decide on a stock for sure now, it's a ???Choate ultimate Sniper stock???
I added the URL to the stock.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=623067#enlarge

I think it's going to be .308 with a matchgrade heavy barrel and this stock mentioned above.

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
April 1, 2009, 10:51 PM
Oh, and if I decide to get it in .308, would I be able to use 7.62x51 NATO in it or do I have to get it chambered for 7.62x51 NATO to do both rounds?

USSR
April 2, 2009, 08:19 AM
7.62x51 works just fine in a .308 boltgun.

Don

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
April 2, 2009, 11:23 AM
Okay so I chamber it for .308 and it'll shot 7.62x51 safely?

USSR
April 2, 2009, 11:42 AM
Okay so I chamber it for .308 and it'll shot 7.62x51 safely?


Yep. Same external cartridge dimensions, and only a small difference pressure-wise.

Don

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
April 2, 2009, 02:38 PM
Alrighty, thanks. I'm just wanting to be able to shoot some fairly cheap ammo through it as well as the premium stuff

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