short term concealment solution


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WheelMan
October 9, 2003, 04:43 PM
My custom leather from Wild Bill's Concealment won't be here for another eight weeks at least.

Any suggestions for a way to carry my semi-compact Eagle in the meantime? Who makes a nice holster I can buy of the rack? Thanks

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Bravo11
October 9, 2003, 04:55 PM
A couple of shops around here have those black nylon(ballistic) holsters that are usually priced pretty good. I got one awhile back that has a built on mag carrier and can be used for either belt slide or IWB. It's a little thick for good IWB and it's not real stable as a belt slide but it's a holster.

WheelMan
October 9, 2003, 04:58 PM
Yeah I have somthing like that already for the range, but it rides so low and loose it's not much good for concealment. It's not a IWB though.

Before somebody says fobus, I already called them, they have a holster, but not in left handed. That left handed-buisness really holds a man back sometimes.:fire:

Preacherman
October 9, 2003, 05:43 PM
Fanny pack?

10-Ring
October 9, 2003, 05:59 PM
Bianchi makes some nice & inexpensive leather IWB holsters that should tied to over till the real thing arrives.

Skunkabilly
October 9, 2003, 06:08 PM
Wilderness Safepacker. Works as a bedside toss-over-the-shoulder-grab-and-go bag, car holster and soft pistol case even if it isn't your main concealment rig.

WheelMan
October 9, 2003, 06:17 PM
Fanny pack?

Since you phrased that as a question my reply will be... Most certainly not. :) I've never... never seen anyone who wasn't a tourist wearing a fanny pack around here, I can't bring myself to wear one, I can hardly bring myself to say it.

While my aversion to the Safepacker is not so violent I'm still looking for an on body concealment holster as opposed to the gun-in-a-sack approach.

Actually, I'm thinking about a smart carry, that would still have some utility after I get my leather.

Skunkabilly
October 9, 2003, 07:42 PM
What's an Eagle? Baby Eagle?

WheelMan
October 9, 2003, 07:51 PM
*looks at pistol*

hmm... Desert Eagle

...Magnum Research...

...Made in Israel...

... 40S&W

*sratches head*

It doesn't say "baby" anywhere on here :neener:

Scarface
October 9, 2003, 10:16 PM
Wheelman,

May I suggest Thunderwear? It works, it's comfortable and it'll be around for your next sidearm concealment situation.

Regards,

Scarface

PCRCCW
October 12, 2003, 05:39 PM
I do Beagle stuff once in a while...but it may not be the thing youre looking for. Email me if I can help you.
Shoot well

Old Fuff
October 12, 2003, 07:09 PM
Wheel Man:

Get a piece of heavy bootlace and take off your belt.

Loop the lace around the belt and then tie it off with a good knot.

Lay the (UNLOADED) pistol behind the belt and loop the lace loosely around the back of it and then back around the belt. Tie off the second loop going around the belt.

You know have a length of lace with a loop on each end that will fit the belt. Cut off any extra lace.

Put your belt back on, and in the process thread it through the two belt loops. Leave them about 3 to 4 inches apart. Left side, right side - anywhere. It doesn’t matter. Do this with the larger loop between the two belt loops pointing up.

Slip the pistol inside the lace between the two belt loops and then inside the pants. The pistol will not slide down your leg because it’s restrained by the larger lace loop. When you are not carrying, slide the two belt loops together and the lace itself inside your waistband so it doesn’t show.

This whole outfit, called a “shoestring holster” will work well until you get your regular holster - and you may like it enough to use it afterwards. Be aware though, that it may set you back $2.00 or so - cash money.

O.K., the tactical types can laugh if they want too. But this simple idea works with mid and full sized pistols but not so well with revolvers. I assure you that the person that taught me this trick was no amateur.

Jake 98c/11b
October 12, 2003, 09:21 PM
Old Fuff, I have been shown a variation of that one by an old undercover officer with many years of experience. He used a loop or cord instead of tieing it to the belt in two places. If you are familiar with the knot called a larks head (I think) it is the same thing. The advantage is that it can be disposed of in about .7 seconds if you need to ditch the gun and remove any evidence that you were carrying. I think he said the trick came from an old friend of the family who was OSS during WW2.

DMK
October 12, 2003, 09:46 PM
The boot lace trick does work. I use a 12" long piece of paracord tied together at one end. Wrap it around the belt and back through the loop. Now tuck it in your pants and stick your pistol in the loop.

It's not as easy to draw as with a good holster, but it'll do the trick. It's very difficult to re-holster though.

I'm afraid to carry like that in condition one or two. I usually pop a loaded mag in, but keep the chamber empty.

It's also a great way to test how a specific pistol carries IWB for a couple days before you go spending big bucks on a holster.

Old Fuff
October 12, 2003, 09:52 PM
You're right Jake. The one I described is more secure, but harder to ditch. I presumed that wouldn't be an issue with Wheel Man (ditching that is).

You might say this was ---well --- O.K, I'll call it a "Secured Mexican Carry" or SMC. Now I've invented something. I could make SMC's and sell them for $50.00 apiece. Any takers?

Old Fuff
October 12, 2003, 10:01 PM
I never had any problems "reholstering" (If you can call it that considering the set-up). But anyway, when the pistol is drawn the larger loop is pulled up. Insert the muzzle through the raised loop and then push the gun back into the waistband. I have used this sort of rig with a Colt Commander and also a 1903 .32 Pocket Model. It worked fine with a Walther PP too.

Michael_2112
October 13, 2003, 01:25 PM
What about something like a fobus paddle holster. You can pick one up for under $20.00.

I sometimes use one for my CZ and have no problem concealing it with an outer shirt or light jacket.

secure, affordable, and will also work well as a range holster.


~Mike

KahrKarrier
October 13, 2003, 03:19 PM
Go to www.clipdraw.com for $19.95 you can install a temporary clip on your piece. If you are like me, you may find it more comfortable than a holster and it will be permanent.
I put one on my Taurus .357 Mag mod 651 which is a revo with 2" bbl. It works so good I don't need an IWB holster which is a blessing in our Fla heat. Try it I really think you'll like it.-----------Jed

Soap
October 13, 2003, 10:30 PM
What Old Fuff sez.

Jake 98c/11b
October 14, 2003, 12:20 PM
Old Fuff, I hope you are right about his not needing to ditch things after use. You just reminded me of something I hadn't thought of in quite some time. One of the things I like about this industry are some of the people and their experiences.

Old Fuff
October 14, 2003, 05:37 PM
Jake 98c/11b;

If you want too ditch something like the sort of handguns that are usually discussed on this forum I'm available .......

No ...... Really, I think that most of the people that post here are not the kind that would usually "ditch" a gun. If someone is involved in a justifiable shooting ditches the weapon and it is traced back to them they are in a world of hurt. Good judgement is a far better solution.

The more likely problem is what too do if you leave the gun somewhere, say locked up in a car. It may be hard to explain an empty conventional holster, but in the case of a "shoestring" simply sliding the two loops together and pushing the larger loop down inside the waistband will be enough to insure that very few people will have the slightest idea of what it is.

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