[reloader2]

I have been looking all over the net trying to find electric primers for my Rem Etronx 220 Swift. I can't shoot factory ammo as it has lead in it. The tree huggers are worried the Condors in CA will get lead poisoning. I want to load Barnes copper bullets.

[Wayne_E]

Powder Valley shows them in stock.
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

[reloader2]

Wayne thanks very much I just bagged the primers at Powder Valley. Ouch!!!!

$187.00 with the hazmat fees and that does not include shipping. I wonder if anyone converts this rifles to use regular primers?

[Jerry D]

$187 for how many?

[1911user]

Wideners has stock at $135 per K.

[ants]

The tree huggers are worried the Condors in CA will get lead poisoning. Well, stop shooting condors. :p Just joking.

Have you heard the concept called "Mexican match ammo"? It's where you pull the bullet from a commercial or military round and replace with Sierra MatchKing or similar match bullet to create cheap match ammo.

So why not do the same? Buy factory ammo, pull the bullet and save it for practice rounds, and replace with Barnes TSX.

[reloader2]

The primers were $157.00 + Hazmat 22.50 & Insurance .50

[reloader2]

I have about twenty boxes of factory ammo and I seriously thought about pulling the bullets but the factory ammo comes with 50 grain bullets and I can only use the 36 grain Barnes TSX bullets because the twist is only 14 to 1 in my rifle. Barnes says that anything more than 36 grains in the copper bullet is not stable. I had to send a box of 50 grain TSX back to Cabelas after reading about them. Also I don't know what powder remington used to load the factory ammo and so I would have to get rid of it.

PS I knew I would get a comment about the condors, hah, hah.

[reloader2]

1000 primers.

[Encoreman]

Shoot that ain't nothing I saw a guy pay $200 for 1K of LR magnum primers plus shipping on Gunbroker. Go figure he must have "really" needed them!!

[persing]

I would never pay for a cap so outrageous?,
Almost half way to a nice reloading press, 1000 primers for 135.00 ??
Only the ones desparate are buying the overpriced fancy cap!

Deaperado on dope

[reloader2]

Well the $187 did not include shipping so I will be considered just as desperate as the guy getting the magnum primers. It really gets to you when you buy an expensive rifle like the Etronx and put a scope on it that costs more than the gun and then you can't hunt with it because they pass a law banning ammo with lead in it. I have wanted a 220 Swift since I was a kid, so whats a few bucks. Anyway I will keep telling myself that.

[reloader2]

If you live in Sonora you might know Wes Young, a good friend of mine who is working down here in Ventura County CA. Anyway that $ figure may not be as expensive to me as it is to you!

[bobotech]

Wow. 1000 primers for 130+ dollars.

What is the big draw of these rifles? What I'm asking is why bother with the big expense of the hard to get ammo and primers?

[Jim Watson]

Well, if you got sucked in by the advertising that electronic ignition was the wave of the future and bought the rifle, you are pretty well stuck with paying their price for the special primers if you want to be able to shoot the gun.

Or if you bought one because it was cheap when they were blowing out the remnants of a market failure, you are now in the same fix.

[ants]

By any chance, reloader2, have you had the opportunity to compare it to a standard 700? Can you replace the bolt and add a trigger assembly, and suddenly you have a standard impact-fired rifle? Or is the receiver completely different and I'm just being stupid?

You'll have to inspect the saftey to see if it fits. Stock triggers are easy to find and not expensive, since many get exchanged for aftermarket triggers.

[MinnMooney]

ants :
Can you replace the bolt and add a trigger assembly, and suddenly you have a standard impact-fired rifle?

I have talked to 2 gunsmiths and they've both said that Remington won't sell their bolts and trigger setups so the only other option is to buy a cheap 700 (damaged stock or blown bbl.?) and salvage the trigger mechanism and the bolt. They thought it should be a fairly easy job with the right parts. Another option is to buy an after market trigger but you'd still need a bolt.

Besides, paying $200 per k of primers only adds $3.00 to a box of reloads and then you're getting what you want and what's legal to shoot. (Remember dem condors.) I can reload EtronX ammo for about $8.70/20 using the expensive primers and good bullets like V-Max or C/T's Ballistic Silver Tips.

[Borg]

Go to 6mmbr forum and put a WTB in the for sale there.
I have seen them sold there before.
Borg

[jmorris]

Well, if you got sucked in by the advertising that electronic ignition was the wave of the future and bought the rifle, you are pretty well stuck with paying their price for the special primers

Krico sold electronic ignition rifles back in the mid ’80 that used regular primers, with a centerfire and rimfire version. The .22lr version was imported by Beeman. They tried to sell the rights to both Walther and Remington, but I guess Remington decided to make something that would become obsolete. Too bad really, I would really like one if it didn’t require special (over 5 X the cost) primers.

[Jim Watson]

Heck, Abercrombie & Fitch - the real ones not the yuppie fashion house now under the name - sold the Fusil Electrique shotgun with electric priming in the 1960s. One turns up every now and then to the amazement of the Internet Generation.

I remember the Kricotronic .22 but did not know they made a centerfire.

[Horsemany]

I'd consider buying a new receiver for $400. Although after 2 or 3 thousand primers your barrel will be toast in a 220 Swift. Horse a piece I suppose.