Dillenger's 1911


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Searcher1970
April 2, 2009, 04:25 PM
Does anybody have any larger photos of the highly modified 1911 that was found with the Dillenger gang? I know the gun was a 38 super converted to full auto. I'm wanting to build a NON firing replica of the gun for a display piece. Heres the only pic I've been able to find of it.
Thanks
Rob

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f222/flyer35/dillenger2-1.jpg?t=1238700043

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JImbothefiveth
April 2, 2009, 05:30 PM
I'm not sure if you have to register this with the NFA. It might qualify as a SBR, although I'm not sure, it being a non-firing replica

xx7grant7x
April 2, 2009, 05:32 PM
I'm wanting to build a NON firing replica
I think non firing wouldn't need NFA.....

Searcher1970
April 2, 2009, 05:39 PM
I plan on using a dummy gun or a blank firing gun as the base so legally it wouldnt be a gun.

351 WINCHESTER
April 2, 2009, 07:53 PM
He knew his guns for sure. Check out his .351's (two of them).

ants
April 4, 2009, 12:52 AM
It's amazing what you can own when you don't have a pesky $200 tax to pay.

Searcher, since you're not worried about the full-auto conversion, you only need to add a compensator and a forward grip. Lots of comps out there in 38 caliber. I bought one from EGW's online auction. The forward grip mounts like the Weigand style scope mount -- drill and tap the dust cover in front of the trigger guard (typically either 8 or 10 screws). Since your copy is non-functional, you don't have to worry about cutting off the screws inside the dust cover to avoid interference with the recoil spring.

The extended magazines are $15 at the gun show. Or $12 if you bargain well.

highorder
April 4, 2009, 01:23 PM
For clarity:

A forward grip on a functional handgun makes an AOW.

Know the laws and pay the taxes.

krs
April 4, 2009, 01:35 PM
Right there is probably what stimulated the National Firearms Act of 1934.

Searcher1970
April 4, 2009, 05:01 PM
I plan on using a dummy gun or a blank firing gun as the base so legally it wouldnt be a gun.

Ron James
April 4, 2009, 06:59 PM
Your home free searcher, only in England do they go crazy over a dummy gun. Fact, a while back they called out a whole squad of police when someone found a live 22 LR shell on their door step. I think what you are doing will make a dandy display pieice.

Searcher1970
April 4, 2009, 11:41 PM
I was reading somewhere that in the UK airsoft guns have to be painted completely red even.

PCFlorida
April 5, 2009, 10:06 AM
IIRC, they were built by a gunsmith named Lebman. There is some info on this page http://www.securityarms.com/forums/showthread.php?t=805

http://www.geocities.com/jdillinger34/images/mpistol.jpg

Searcher1970
April 5, 2009, 03:02 PM
Thanks for the pic and the link PCFlorida. Is it just me or does the grip screws on the original look huge?

PCFlorida
April 5, 2009, 03:08 PM
Thanks for the pic and the link PCFlorida. Is it just me or does the grip screws on the original look huge?

Or are they just "ornate" grips?

Searcher1970
April 5, 2009, 04:01 PM
They are definitely custom grips. They also look like that have an inlay in the middle of them. Wish I could make it out.

Duke of Doubt
April 11, 2009, 02:17 PM
J.D.'s regular carry guns were the Colt 1917 and the Ortgies in the lower left.

Ortgies rock!

Owen Meany
April 11, 2009, 05:37 PM
Ortgies rock!

They do, I agree! I noticed the little Ortgies .25 down in the corner there. They are interesting and finely made guns that should receive more attention.

By the way, what is the source of your information about John Dillinger's carry preferences?

crazy-mp
April 16, 2009, 01:27 AM
Didn't Clyde also use a B.A.R? I thought he stole a couple from an armory.

Searcher1970
April 16, 2009, 02:42 PM
Yup Clyde Barrow preferred the BAR for its stopping power.

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 16, 2009, 10:32 PM
I'm pretty sure the gun in the picture isn't the actual gun, either.

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