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Arkansas Paul
April 8, 2009, 02:09 AM
It seems like everyone in my area despises Remington factory ammo. Is this just here in Arkansas or is it a common opinion. If so, why? While I have shot thousands of rounds at the range, I have only killed three deer, so my experience is minimal. I recently bought a .30-06 Weatherby Vangaurd and it loves Remington Core-Lockts. One hole groups. Is there a reason I shouldn't use them on whitetails?

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K-DUB
April 8, 2009, 02:20 AM
I have shot Remington for years with no issues.

If your gun likes them, then fire away I say.

SquirrelNuts
April 8, 2009, 02:21 AM
Remington ammo and Core-Lokt PSP's are great. It is my preference. I "roll my own" but use RP brass and Core-Lokt PSP's for .30-06. When I did buy it at the store, I got the Remington all the time.

warnerwh
April 8, 2009, 02:46 AM
I use Remington Brass and bullets in my .06. I also use their bullets in my magnum handguns.

Arkansas Paul
April 8, 2009, 02:57 AM
It's crazy the way people are about it here. For God's sake the factory where the ammo is made is located in Lonoke AR, one hour from where I live. You would think people would want to support them, but there is a negative opinion about it here. I don't get it.

warnerwh
April 8, 2009, 03:08 AM
I forgot to add that my reloads are 1.5" on both my .357 and .44 at 25 yards. Rifle is 1.25 MOA with a load I worked up for a rifle I had years ago have a few hundred rounds to use. Still have to work up a load for this new rifle so MOA or better should be not much trouble. I will be using Rem Core lokt 180gr SP bullets. These bullets work great on Blacktail deer here and surprisingly open up well on these small deer. At close range the damage is incredible and actually too much. If there's a drawback to their bullets or brass I don't know what it is.

Arbor
April 8, 2009, 03:15 AM
As it was explained to me, Remington Ammunition got a bad reputation when they moved their factory to Mexico some years back. The reports of the inconsistency and poor quality of the ammo was so detrimental to their sales that they eventually moved their production back the USA, and since than quality is up to par again. Nonetheless I have met some people who still didn't know/care that it is manufactured in America again and will not buy Remington because of the bad impression.

Personally, I find their rifle and especially rimfire ammo to be a good "bang for the buck," I did have some problems with their 12ga. game loads not cycling my AL-2 (low/inconsistent pressure), but other than that I have no complaint.

ants
April 8, 2009, 03:15 AM
We have found Remington .30-06 to be excellent factory ammo for deer, ever since I first took it on a deer hunt in 1960. Your friends are entitled to their opinions, but you should always trust your own experience.

wankerjake
April 8, 2009, 03:16 AM
Nothing wrong with Remington ammo that I know of...unless you're a communist :scrutiny:

FiREhAwk
April 8, 2009, 03:23 AM
I have had no problems with centerfire, but thier bulk .22 is dreadful imho.

jimmyraythomason
April 8, 2009, 03:27 AM
I agree with FIREHawk.

Arbor
April 8, 2009, 03:51 AM
22LR "Golden Bullets" work well for me. Thunderbolts or whatever, not so much.

dpeticca
April 8, 2009, 04:43 AM
The Remington 380 FMJ works wonderfully in my Sig 232. In fact, I like it best of all the target/practice loads. Their 102Gr Golden Saber is also regarded as one of the best carry loads in that caliper.

I also keep my 357 with 125 Gr Golden Sabers, for their perfect balance of power and control. This is a medium velocity load, which places it somewhere between a 38 +P and a standard 357 load (where standard comes in at 1450fps), these come in at around 1250 to 1300 fps.

Nothing bad to say about them.

Davek1977
April 8, 2009, 05:06 AM
I don't care for any of their rimfire offerings, but have never had any noticble problems with any centerfire loads

22-rimfire
April 8, 2009, 09:41 AM
If Remington has a bad reputation concerning ammo, it is probably related to their 22 rimfire ammo. In recent years, their fail to fire rate seems excessive (%-wise) with Thunderbolts.

I've never had any issues with their centerfire ammunition except the price of their 41 magunum loads. It was always expensive, but I found it to be consistant and of overall high quality.

KarenTOC
April 8, 2009, 10:09 AM
I have one gun that absolutely refuses to be in the same room with Remmington rimfire ammo.

Centerfire has never given me any problems.

Admittedly, I'm a new shooter with very little experience. On the plus side, I didn't know about the company's reputation, so at least I didn't have an anti-Remmington bias prior to using it :)

foghornl
April 8, 2009, 10:22 AM
The bulk .22 Rimfire (read as Thunderbolts, AKA Dudder-dolts) is about the very worst stuff sold. The better Rem .22 rimfire is OK.

Years back, I had a Nylon 66 that ate everything, EXCEPT for the 36-Gr. Hollow Point "Golden Bullets". The 40-Gr solid Goldens were about the best. Go figure...a Rem rifle that hated Rem ammo.

Centerfire ammo? All work well for me, in .30/30, .30-06, and .45ACP (Golden Sabre)

Just One Shot
April 8, 2009, 10:45 AM
Center fire = Good :)

Rim fire = Bad :(

Hungry Seagull
April 8, 2009, 12:39 PM
That plant is not far from me.

I have delivered coils in temperature controlled trailers out of foundry in Buffalo to Remington to be turned into cartridges and bullets etc. I enjoy delivering to that Plant.

I dont despise it. In fact, once upon a time I run ready mix into there from time to time and enjoyed thier safety precautions and overall professionalism.

In short, I think that plant rocks.

Now.

I fire remington managed recoils through the wife's mossberg. She handles the buckhammers and puts em right where she wants em too. It's her "Perfect" ammo. It's not the... hardest hitting or is the best.

I choose to run Speer Gold Dots and Lawman through the handguns. The 870 mag is a good gun, definately a keeper. Must have been a good batch run that day in newyork where it was made.

But... I found the Brennekes to fire really well in that gun, I could feed it any old ammo, including remmies....

The good news....

Walmarts in my area are starting to have full shelves of remington ammo of different kinds. But no 45 ACP. So Im sticking with my quarterly bulk orders of speer.

Ala Dan
April 8, 2009, 01:34 PM
I carry Remington's 102 grain Golden Sabres in my KEL-TEC P3AT .380,
with NO issues~! :scrutiny: ;) :D

NoirFan
April 8, 2009, 01:49 PM
I really like the Remington .38 special 130-grain FMJ when I can find them. They are flashier, kick a little harder and are more fun to shoot than their Winchester counterparts. Never had accuracy or failure to fire problems with them.

Omaha-BeenGlockin
April 8, 2009, 02:00 PM
Just too much money for what it is---Core-lokt's are pretty much comparable to Winchester Power-points yet the price is considerably more. So pretty much buy Winchester then roll my own with the spent cases with Hornady bullets.

W L Johnson
April 8, 2009, 02:55 PM
I don't recall having issues with their centerfire ammo just their rimfire stuff, it has crapped out in every rimfire of mine over the past 20 years. But again
no issues with their centerfire suff.

SquirrelNuts
April 8, 2009, 03:14 PM
I have had the opposite with the rimfire ammo. I but the 550 round 36 grain HP Golden Bullets. They will feed in EVERY semi-auto I have ever owned (about 7 or 8) and of course, every bolt action. I only ever had failure to fire on a very light striking AR-7 I used to own. I have had cycling problems in several semi autos with other bulk bands.

Justin
April 8, 2009, 04:57 PM
Remington has a bad reputation because they've earned it.

Their rimfire bulk ammo is the most unreliable crap on the market.
Their centerfire ammo is generally dirtier than that of the competition and not as consistent, resulting in diminished accuracy.

In defense of Remington, I will say that it's better than Amerc.

searcher451
April 8, 2009, 07:27 PM
I'd agree that Remington's centerfire ammo, while a bit on the dirty side, works fine in my handguns. I also have used Remington .44 magnum in my Ruger deerstalker for years without hiccup or incident. The rimfire ammo is another matter entirely. You'd be better off investing in a pizza and a six pack than a brick of .22 Remington of any stripe. Not sure why that it, but it seems to be universally true.

Arkansas Paul
April 8, 2009, 07:46 PM
I hope this doesn't sound stupid but what do you mean by dirty?

moooose102
April 8, 2009, 08:06 PM
well, i have shot a bunch of it as well. but honestly, mostly for target practice. my dad had some bad experiences with it, so before i started reloading, i always shot winchester ammo for final sighting in and hunting. the problem my dad had was with the bullet end of it. it may have been a bad batch, or just the way it works, i don't know. the bullets shot accuratly, just did not deliver the punch it was supposed to. he shot a deer with his 300 H&H mag 3 times @ around 70 yards, before my little brother finished it off with his 30-30 (winchester bullets). the 3 holes looked pretty much the same going in as they did going out. very little or no expansion. needles to say, dad went back to winchester ammo, and one shot kills. with my handloads, i either use winchester or hornady bullets for hunting. for target practice, i'll shoot anything that is accurate and inexpensive. of course, that is getting to be a joke now, with all the hoarding going on. i just paid 34.00 for the same 1k primers i paid 22.00 for last spring.

skoro
April 8, 2009, 09:21 PM
I've never had an issue with Remington centerfire ammo, either handgun or rifle. Always performed as well or better than expected.

Their 22 magnum ammo has always worked for me, also.

But my experience with their Golden Bullet 22LR ammo has been horrid. The worst ammo I've ever had the displeasure to load into a firearm.

I'll never trust their 22LR stuff again. :mad:

patrick526
April 8, 2009, 09:27 PM
Yeah, their expensive .22 LR ammo has more than 50% duds when i got em! http://www.thehighroad.org/images/smilies/mad.gif From then on, I use CCI all the way and doesn't have any problems at all! :)

1987rx7guy
April 8, 2009, 09:46 PM
I have shot through about 1k of their UMC in .40 S&W and i've never had a dud. The 22LR is not as great though my friends bolt action rifle would have cases tear and sometimes get a bullet left in the barrel(scary) My coworker's Moasquito also hates it but it hates all brands...

Bezoar
April 8, 2009, 10:10 PM
remington is universally known and credited for the best commercial production brass in a factory cartridge. That says something.

The issue with remington ammo is that they seem to be lowering the velocity of their ammunition for calibers that predate ww2. One should not have a brand new round of 30-06 have 18 inches of drop at 100 yards when the 20 year old box of the same load is shooting clover leafs at 100 yards, on a pie tin.

Also the bullets dont expand the way they used to in the past. It could be related to lower velocity, but that only goes so far.

And dirty is as dirty does. One should not shoot a single round of centerfire ammo and have the barrel of said weapon look like you just shot 500 rounds of 22lr through your favorite plinker in a single sitting.

bannockburn
April 8, 2009, 11:25 PM
No problems with their centerfire pistol ammo; in fact I didn't have any problems with their 9mm. that I had bought on sale at Dick's a while back. Wasn't even that dirty; very comparable to WWB in the same caliber.

Don't even get me started on Remington rimfire ammo. Goldens, Thunderbolts, Yellow Jackets, Vipers; didn't matter what it was, it simply was the worst ammo I've ever used.

gbw
April 8, 2009, 11:33 PM
You say tomato....

Their Golden Bullet rimfire is my favorite, and ThunderBolt does well too. The GB works with near total reliability in everything incl. a Nylon 66, and is the only 36 gr. that is reliable in a very old, worn Iver Johnson TP-22 that I've had for many many years, and that I love. Bought new for $100. About due to trade off, I guess. It has a very light strike and rarely lights Federal, any style, and has a high failure rate in Winchester. Never tried CCI, too much $$. But Remington nearly always goes off, goes straight, and works the gun.

I buy almost no factory CF, so I cannot say.

SquirrelNuts
April 8, 2009, 11:57 PM
gbw, we have similar experiences.

Redneck with a 40
April 9, 2009, 12:10 AM
Remington Core-Lokt shoot's fine in my Remmy 700 SPS Tactical, I get 1.5" at 100 yards, about what you would expect. However, I'm now handloading superior ammo that shoots .75 MOA for about half the cost.:)

BlackHand1917
April 9, 2009, 12:53 AM
I have shot Remington .380ACP and .38 Special for quite awhile now and I have no complaints. I recently picked up a batch of .22LR Golden Bullets, but I haven't tried them yet. I also buy the Remington cheapy 12ga 7 1/2 shot shotgun shells at Wally-World for my Mossberg 500 riot gun, just for pracitice and they go boom every time.

hadmanysons
April 9, 2009, 04:42 AM
I get 1" groups out of a "garbage" gun at 100 yards with Remington express 30-06 ammo.

WVMountainBoy
April 9, 2009, 04:51 AM
Core Lokt 30.06 ammo is a staple of mine.

hometheaterman
April 9, 2009, 07:22 PM
I don't like Remington ammo and I know several guys that don't. Actually I don't like much anything Remington as most not all but most of their guns I've had or seen have had some sort of quality control issue that should have been taken care of before it left the factory.

That's not why I don't like their ammo though. Their .22 ammo is just crap and most everyone seems to think that. It's dirty and has a lot of ftf's.

Their centerfire ammo seems to be good as long as your gun likes it. My Browning 30-06 wasn't accurate with it so I didn't use it. My buddies Remington 7400 .243 wanted to hang up when shooting Remington shells but it worked fine with Winchester stuff. If your gun likes it I see no reason not to use it. I don't think it's bad ammo my guns just don't like it.

As for shotgun shells they seem okay. The 870 I had seemed to jam more with Remington buckshot but it still jammed some with Winchester and others. I also had a shell explode in the chamber. We aren't sure if it was a bad shell or something happened where the pump wasn't all the way forward. It shouldn't go off then but did so we aren't sure which it was. I've had a gun shop as well as many people look at it. Some think it was a bad shell and some think it was the gun. I'm not sure but it sort of turned me away from Remington ammo as that could have gone very very badly. Luckily no one got hurt though. It scared me pretty badly.

I've used a few Remington sport loads and they seem okay.

All in all if their Core Lokt stuff works for your gun I see no reason not to use it. Use whatever kind of ammo your rifle likes. That's what I do. Just so happens mine liked Federal stuff.


I know one or two guys here that like Remington ammo but the rest mostly dislike it. Winchester as well as Federal seem to be the two popular ones around here as well as the two I've had good experiences with. Some guns like one some like another kind of ammo.

neededausername
April 10, 2009, 02:00 AM
I started buying Remington because my best friends husband works at the plant. I kept buying because it performs great for me. Don't forget that there is a Remington plant here in AR, so maybe people just like to complain because it's local or something. Seems kinda backwards I know, but it's like giving your siblings a hard time I guess.

Arkansas Paul
April 10, 2009, 03:20 AM
My father is actually retired from there. Anytime I want to get him going, I just mention the subject. I seriously don't know what the deal is though.

Schuey2002
April 10, 2009, 05:04 AM
Their bulk rimfire ammo is pure crap!

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I was at Bi-Mart the other day looking to purchase some .22LR ammo. The shelves, which would normally loaded down with ammo, were bare save for a few boxes of American Eagle and a lone box of Remington rimfire that had "magically" appeared only moments earlier.

As soon as I saw the red boxes of AE, I scooped up four 400rd bricks and then set them on the counter that was directly behind me. A guy standing next to me grabbed the lone box of Remington that was sitting on the far right of the shelf. He gave me this look like I just bought the worst crap ever made. I turned to him, knowing exactly what he was thinking and said,

"I'll take this .22LR made by Federal any day over that box of Remington in your hands..."

Some guy looking at fishing lures a few feet away blurted out, "Remington rimfire is the best stuff out there!"

I laughed audibly as I strolled past him with my bag full of Federal goodness....

HarleyFixer
April 10, 2009, 07:31 AM
I have had no problems with centerfire, but thier bulk .22 is dreadful imho

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