35 Remington vs 30-30 Winchester.


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AUTIGER04
October 11, 2003, 03:51 AM
Which do you prefer for WhiteTails? And maybe a Hog every now and then?

Open field and Some thick brush?

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dakotasin
October 11, 2003, 07:16 AM
never hunted hogs... have a 30-30, and it is a great cartridge, but often have wished i had the 35, instead. i'd go 35...

mete
October 11, 2003, 12:21 PM
I've never owned either however I've talked to a number of people that have used both. They all say that while on paper they look the same ,in actual use the 35 is significantly better than the 30-30. The 35 just punches a bigger hole.I did hear from someone recently that took a good sized boar with the 35 ,he was very happy with the performance .The great penetration was with the new loading of a220 gr bullet. (can't remember who makes that one)

Gordon
October 11, 2003, 12:26 PM
This debate is an old saw. My experience, over last 50 years of hunting has been that the .35 is better (with 200 grain up bullets) under 100yds and bigger animals. Hard to beat Rem 200 grain corelokts on animals up to 400lbs and under 100yds. in a slick pumpgun or autoloader. Also it is a wonderful PISTOL round. The 30-30 is a better lever gun round, it is good on 300lb game to 200yds with either 150(better expansion) or 170 (deeper penetration) grain loads which are CHEAP AND PLENTIFUL. The 30-30 carbines especially the 16inch ones make a hell of a HD gun, I'd rather have one than any of the 'lowcost' auoloaders.:)

farscott
October 11, 2003, 02:33 PM
I have owned Marlin 336 rifles in both .30-30 Winchester and .35 Remington. In my opinion, the .35 Remington is much more effective than the .30-30. I have taken hogs in Arkansas as well as deer in Michigan with the .35 Remington; I have also taken deer with the .30-30 Winchester.

The .35 Remington just seems to hit "harder".

Shane
October 11, 2003, 04:14 PM
Is .35 Remington relatively rare? In other words, if I ever chose to buy a rifle in that caliber, would I have trouble locating ammo for it other than on the internet?

farscott
October 11, 2003, 05:05 PM
I can readily find .35 Remington although there are many more variants of .30-30 Winchester. I believe there are two Remington factory loads, a 150-grain softpoint and a 200-grain softpoint.

mete
October 11, 2003, 06:45 PM
It's www.buffalobore.com that makes a 220 gr @ 2200 fps.

Jim K
October 11, 2003, 09:54 PM
The only drawback to the .35 Remington is that rifles tend to have headspace (and misfire) problems due to the small shoulder not providing sufficient support. Otherwise, the caliber is good and better at average eastern deer ranges (under 100 yds.) than the .30-30. Its reputation as a "brush bucker" is, IMHO, overrated, though.

Jim

Mannlicher
October 12, 2003, 07:23 PM
Having shot both the .35 and the 30/30 for many years, I prefer the 30/30. I have never lost a deer with the .30 cal round, but I have lost two with the .35. The accuracy seems to be less with the .35, and the trajectory is much more curved.
The myth of the hard hitting .35 is more of the result of almost anything will kill a whitetail at short range, than of any mystical attributes of the .35 Rem. A 200 grain round nose slug at barely 2000fps is not a giant killer.

Brian Dale
October 13, 2003, 03:37 PM
Shane, w/r/t your question: would I have trouble locating ammo for it other than on the internet? I'm looking at a box of Remington Express (brand) Core-Lokt 200 gr. soft-points in .35 Rem. that I got at my local Wal-Mart. I've found it in a lot of places that sell ammo for deer rifles. My local gas station has .30-30, but no .35 Rem. No big problem, but it's not absolutely everywhere like .30-30 ammo.

BluRidgDav
October 14, 2003, 02:46 PM
I'll second Jim Keenan's comments.

I HAD a Marlin 336 in .35 Reminton. There were problems with misfires due to the tiny shoulder that the .35 headspaces on. Also, finding ammo wasn't a problem, as long as I shopped in BIG stores in BIG towns.

Now, I HAVE a Marlin 336 in .30-30 Winchester. No functioning problems what-so-ever, and more accurate, too. Ammo is available EVERYWHERE !

My favorite load is the 170 grain Nosler Partition from Federal.
But there is also a hot 150 grain Winchester Power Point +P load,
and even a 55 grain (.224 bullet in a sabot) Accelerators from Remington.

The .30-30 is much more versatile and just as effective.

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