[harpethriver]

Does anybody know of this company's policy towards firearms? Specifically do they contribute $$ to anti-gun organizations? Do they have a stated position that is verifiable?

[PeteyPete]

I recall reading somewhere that they have given money to anti-gun organizations...Do a google search, i'm sure you'll find it somewhere.

[Mark Tyson]

They give money to anti gun organizations. Buy your jeans at the Gap.

[matis]

What I CAN tell you is that Levi Straus withdrew their support from the Boy Scouts because of their refusal to allow homosexual scout leaders.

They support most ultra-liberal cuases.

So it's pretty safe to assume they will be anti-gun.





matis

[jsalcedo]

They give money to an anti-gun organization called PAX.

After repeated letters they continue to stand by gun control because they say it is an issue important for young people.

I buy my Wranglers at Walmart for $11.99

Levi's is deeply entrenched in the gun control scene and has been for several years.

See below:

Dear Mr. Salcedo:

For several years, Levi Strauss & Co. has focused on empowering
youth to make social change on issues they care about, therefore we
do still support PAX. A leading concern among youth is the increase
in gun violence, which is responsible for killing more American
children than all natural causes combined (11 children every day).

We hope to take a leadership position on this issue by supporting
PAX, a non-profit anti-violence organization, dedicated to the vision
of a society free of gun violence. Levi Strauss & Co. supports
PAX's goal to bring all Americans together to support common sense
solutions to the gun violence epidemic.

If you'd like more information about the PAX organization, please
visit their web site at www.paxusa.org.

Thank you again for sharing your views with us. If you need to
contact us again, please write back or call us at 1-800-USA-LEVI or
email us at questions@levi.com for further information. We are
available to assist you Monday through Friday from 5am - 8pm
Pacific Time, and on Saturday and Sunday from 7am - 5pm Pacific
Time.

Sincerely,

Vallory
Levi Strauss & Co.
valwax2614369


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28158&highlight=levi

[papercut]

Levi's is part of the anti crowd.

[KMKeller]

FYI, Levi's is also in the process of closing the last production facility they own on American soil. Once completed, they will have shipped 100% of their jobs, except high paid executive staff, overseas and to Mexico.

Levi's deserves only our disdain and contempt.

[Skunkabilly]

IIRC they gave either a $125,000 or $250,000 grant to PAX (known for the ask campaign), their largest contribution.

http://www.levistrauss.com/responsibility/foundation/grants/lsf02.htm

Well I just looked and it says 2002 grant list. Last I checked back in 2002 it must have been the 2001 or 2000 list and the number was pretty high, I guess they dump a lot of money into PAX every year.

Get yourself a pair of Royal Robbins...any clothing line that is sold at a gun store and says 'tactical' on it can't be anti-gun :D

[Zundfolge]

They give money to anti gun organizations. Buy your jeans at the Gap.
Of course they pay large sums of money to liberal entertainers for their ads ... who in turn give money to anti-gun groups too.

Although in looking at their corporate page http://www.gapinc.com/social_resp/giving.htm , it seems that the major charities they support are Boys & Girls Clubs of America and Lorraine Monroe Leadership Institute ... neither of which appears to be overtly anti-gun.

But The Gap is also based in San Francisco ... so you know they have plenty of nuts in their granola.

Face it, its impossible to live life without some of the money you spend going to the enemy ... you just have to counter it with support for the good guys too.

[C.R.Sam]

Levi
Once proud manufacturer.
Now importer of overpriced goods
And not a supporter of the Constitution.

Fie upon them.

Sam

[DorGunR]

jsalcedo
buys Wrangler.........so do I........I'll NEVER buy Levi's again.:mad:

[Bill Hook]

Anything bad about LEE? I buy them along w/ Wranglers.

[Silver Bullet]

Wranglers are my everyday jeans.

But, if you want to go tactical, another good option is Blackie Collins' Toters:

http://www.blackiecollins.com/
1-866-455-1327

They're more expensive, but

(1) They come with pockets designed to carry,
(2) They're American made,
(3) Terrific construction. When I hang the legs together of most jeans to put on a hanger, the seams don't line up without a lot of "persuasion". With Toters, they fall into place.

From their label, "Toters front and rear pockets are lined with Cordura Plus so that the naturally soft cotton denim fabric of the jeans will not wear through from carrying a handgun or other object such as a knife. The front pockets have a patent pending adjustment system and a full size inner compartment in place of the ordinary watch pocket."

Everyone should have at least one pair.

I believe Dockers are made by Levis, too; check the label before you buy.

[Silver Bullet]

harpethriver
Welcome to The High Road !

[Sam Fisher]

Don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but I think Wrangler Jeans is anti also. :(

[cdbeaver]

Levi Strauss & Co. only recently closed its last jeans manufacturing plant in the United States. All its clothing is now made outside the USA where labor is cheaper.

Doesn't look to me like Strauss is doing much for this country.

[EJ]

cdbeaver said---

Levi Strauss & Co. only recently closed its last jeans manufacturing plant in the United States. All its clothing is now made outside the USA where labor is cheaper.


Amazing isn't it-- Levi's used to be the big US thing all over the world -- now not even made here -- --:rolleyes:

And that's not all --

They're embroilled in a tax scam aftyer firing two top tax dept. people for trying to encourage them to follow the code--
Lawsuits all around --:what:

[jsalcedo]

Don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but I think Wrangler Jeans is anti also

Care to elaborate?


I searched VF's (owner of wrangler brand) financials and could find no declaration of support or donation to anti-gun causes.

Here is the list of brands VF owns:

Wrangler ® Lee ® Riders ® Rustler ® Brittania ®TIMBERCREEK BY
WRANGLER ® Chic ® Gitano ® 20X ® Vanity Fair ® Vassarette ®

Bestform ® Lily of France ® Tommy Hilfiger ® * Curvation ™

Gemma ® Lou ® Bolero ® Intima Cherry ® Variance ®

Belcor ® Lee ® Wrangler ® Hero by Wrangler ® Maverick ®

H.I.S. ® Old Axe ® Red Kap ® Bulwark ® Penn State
Textile ™ Horace Small ® Lee Sport ® CSA ™ Chase Authentics ® *

NFLRed ® * NFL White ® * VF Solutions The North Face ®

JanSport ® Eastpak ® Nautica ® Earl Jean ® John Varvatos

[sm]

Some 20 yrs ago or so I bought the whole darn box of Levi boot cut in my size. I have no idea how many, but it was huge box. I've never been a shopper, and really became tired of my size not in stock. So I told the young sales lady, if a box comes in, call me and you get the commission.

So the Levis I wear are that old, just been breaking out a pair as need. Kinda like buying old smith's, quality ain't there, nor the commitment to 2A.

Now not sure of politics, haven't found an anti stance, but the Eddie Baur folks make a boot cut, and a bunch cheaper. I haven't tried them, but the ones from LL bean, are nice, and again cheaper than the levi. Plus I can call LL Bean and have delivered to my door, no malls, no parking hassels...great for a non-shopper like me.

hey levi, twas me and others that sent that pkg of levi denimn that time...ya know the ones with "holes" in them...testing loads ...you guys failed the buckshot test btw...:neener:

[Sam Fisher]

I wear Carhartt and Royal Robbins pants.

[Standing Wolf]

It's been years since I wore a pair of Levi's or Dockers: I don't do business with anti-Second Amendment bigots.

[Denver]

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44227

Shows a list compiled by the NRA.

[PawDaddy]

I have owned one pair of Levi jeans. The 501 button fly. I will never buy, nor put another pair of Levi's on my body. The fit was very bad. It's Wrangler's for me.

I would not wear Levi's even if they did fit good because of their politics. And even if they supported gun rights, I would not support them because of their stand on homosexuality.

[saddlebum]

wrangler moved thier plants to mexico too. laid off 400 oklahomans in the prosess. i say let them sell'em to mexicans. saddlebum

[Bill Hook]

Here is the list of brands VF owns:


Good.

I like to buy Tommy jeans too, but lately I've been stopping at a VF outlet store in Carrolton, KY when headed back South and picking up a 6 month to a year's supply of Lee and Wranglers.

I also like Nautica shirts, so as long as VF isn't anti, I'm okay.

[gunsmith]

cheaper than dirt.com has cheapo jeans and stuff
wranglers are allright too

[chas_martel]

Don't forget that Levi's owns Dockers.

And in addition to PAX being funded by Levi's and bein anti 2nd Amendment.

Levi's is also anti 1st Amendment. They helped fund the assault on the Boy Scouts!

I will never own anything from Levi's.

[Moparmike]

That sucks! Levi's are the only jeans I can find that fit right. Damn.:fire: :banghead:

[zahc]

Same here. I feel dirty now, but have worn levis for a long time. What non-anti jeans fit similarly to levi loose, relaxed, and baggy? Because I hate shopping and trying clothes on, which is probably the only reason why I still buy levis and not something cheaper!

[Sam Fisher]

Wrangler makes a cool pair of jeans -- 5 Star. Loose fit (not saggin), and they look great.

[Bartholomew Roberts]

GAP =Levi's don't buy them!

I'm sorry but this is incorrect. Gap Inc. is owned by Donald and Doris Fisher of San Francisco and has no affiliation with Levis (Gap does have affiliation with Banana Republic and Old Navy though).

http://www.gapinc.com/about/realestate/brands.htm

I found this out by taking five minutes to look it up on the Internet with Google and compare the coporate ownership sections in Levis website and the Gaps.

I would humbly suggest that all of us would be better off if we took five minutes to verify what we were going to post had any potential basis in fact before we added to the confusion with yet another post that was basically grapevine rumor.

[Mark Tyson]

I just read the list of Gap recipients, which they will email to anyone interested. It's mostly youth programs, food programs and AIDS awareness(not surprising given their San Francisco location). The only remotely anti-gun organization that I could find listed is the National Urban League, which is about one of a hundred organizations.

[Bill Hook]

Tommy fit the best on me.

[harpethriver]

To Bill Hook: Tommy Who? That sounds kind of kinky!! Has Oleg offered to take photos of this? If so you know you've really arrived!!

[Deepdiver]

I shifted to Wranglers a while ago due to Levi's liberal/leftist agenda, and the fact that they moved all of their production off-shore.

Unfortunately, I just read an article about Wranglers closing their OK plant and moving their production to South America.

Guess I gotta go find another brand of jeans that are made in the USA, by a company that respects our consititution.

How about LEE - anyone got the book on them??

-DD

[sm]

Dunno about Lee.

Currently buying LLBean Jeans and Kahkis.( with the co. history and selling guns I figured they were Ok). I have shooter friends buying Eddie Bauer, be curious about them. One parent says their kids like Old Navy...again dunno.

I still have and can get Duck Head Kahkis, we prolly need to research this futher.
Anyone have an idea on these co.'s ?

[RustyHammer]

IIRC Levi Strauss Co. is moving off shore ....


http://www.redding.com/news/business/past/20030926bus009.shtml


Levi Strauss to leave North America -- Struggling firm closing its last plants


Friday, September 26, 2003


Associated Press

September 26, 2003 — 2:07 a.m.
Levi Strauss & Co. will close its last manufacturing plants in the United States and Canada, eliminating nearly 2,000 jobs, the struggling jeans maker said Thursday.

Levi will close two sewing and finishing plants in San Antonio by year's end and lay off 800 workers, and shutter its three remaining manufacturing plants north of the border that employ 1,180 people by March. The company will contract with foreign manufacturing plants.

The move will allow the company to focus on product design, marketing and sales of its jeans, said Julie Klee, general manager of Levi Strauss & Co. (Canada) Inc.

"The closures are an absolutely necessary part of ensuring the long-term competitiveness of our business," Klee said. "Moving away from owned-and-operated manufacturing to a broader sourcing base will strengthen our business by giving us much more flexibility."

The Canadian plants affected are sewing operations in Edmonton, Alberta, and Stoney Creek, Ontario, and a finishing center in Brantford, Ontario, the company said.

In 2002, Levi's U.S.-based parent company closed six U.S. manufacturing plants, eliminating 3,600 jobs.

San Francisco-based Levi Strauss, which just turned 150 years old, became one of America's iconic brands in the 1950s and '60s, as its jeans became a wardrobe staple of baby boomers.

The company, however, has struggled in recent years to connect with younger consumers. Sales peaked at $7.1 billion in 1996 but have fallen for six straight years to $4.1 billion and got off to a slow start this year as consumers began buying more trendy or less expensive clothes.

In an effort to bounce back, Levi has designed more clothes to appeal to teenagers and young adults, and cut costs to lower prices. The company also entered the discount jeans market earlier this summer with a new brand called Signature that is sold in Wal-Mart stores.

Levi plants once dotted South Texas from San Angelo to the Rio Grande Valley. But for years Levi Strauss and other clothing makers have been shutting down U.S. plants and moving production to other countries with cheaper labor.

[Bill Hook]

If they're struggling, why the contributions to left-wing causes?

Let'em struggle, as someone will buy the rights to the name and the designs.

[PawDaddy]

Anybody know anything about Bugle Boy? There was an outlet store in the mall a few years back that had really great prices. I bought several pair and still wear some of them now as they really held up. I have a pair on right now. But, I alway wondered about their politics. Wal-Mart sell some Bugle Boy jeans now, but the mostly look like the gang-banger, baggy, sag-busting pants.

The Wrangler jean just fits me right. I used to get the pro rodeo, but now get the 5 star from Wal-Mart.

What about Old College Inn?

[Mark Tyson]

Wal-Mart sell some Bugle Boy jeans now, but the mostly look like the gang-banger, baggy, sag-busting pants.

"Excuse me, are those bugle boy jeans you're wearing?":D

[Futo Inu]

I bought Levi's for years, until they became anti-gun. Now I get Arizona jeans from JC Penneys. They're pretty similar to the levis I used to get.

[Stickjockey]

while we're on the subject of jeans,

Anyone know where Eddie Bauer stands?