When cleaning a Glock


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G27
October 11, 2003, 01:01 PM
why arn't you supposed to get any oil or solvent in where the firing pin is?

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Navy joe
October 11, 2003, 01:38 PM
It attracts crud which may eventually impede striker movement and cause failures to fire. I clean my striker channel regularly since it really helps trigger feel, but leave it dry. Drylubes are used by some with good results as are re-finishes like NP3.

jc2
October 11, 2003, 11:16 PM
It has two potentially disastrous consequences: (1) misfires due to light primer strikes (always a potential problem in striker-fired weapons), or (2) the striker not retracting leading to slam-fires.

MoNsTeR
October 11, 2003, 11:27 PM
....you're supposed to clean it? :o

gconan
October 12, 2003, 12:18 AM
Slide Disassembly/Firing Pin Replacement

http://glockmeister.com/slidedis.shtml

Sven
October 12, 2003, 01:26 AM
I don't feel compelled to detail strip the slide of the Glock that often - when I do, I find a lot of crud. Doesn't seem to stop the G17 from just going, and going, and going...

http://www.imageseek.com/sven/2003_10_11/glock_bunny.gif

sm
October 12, 2003, 01:39 AM
Sven :D
animation would better prove point:)

HSMITH
October 12, 2003, 11:18 AM
That stuck firing pin can make it go full auto on you, and you will not be prepared for it. Light strikes are a "best case" scenario. The cyclic rate of the Glock pistols is amazing. Hopefully it will only double or triple and not dump the whole mag while you are busy losing control of it.............

Clean and DRY the firing pin channel every 1000 rounds MINIMUM, 3-400 rounds will be a much better interval. At least just hose it out with some brake cleaner or gun scrubber.

Mastrogiacomo
October 12, 2003, 02:40 PM
I'm embarassed to ask. Usually when I ship my Beretta, they tell about removing the firing pin (Fedex). I don't know what it is. Can anyone please show me a picture of where the firing pin is located on a gun and what it looks like?

HSMITH
October 12, 2003, 02:54 PM
Don't be embarrassed, the ones that should be embarrassed are the ones that are too arrogant to ask a question.......

The firing pin is the doo-dad (technical term there:rolleyes: ) that hits the primer when you fire the gun. On your M92 it will be visible with the hammer cocked, look into the slot that the hammer falls into when you de-cock it, that round part is the very back. It is cylindrical in shape and goes from where you see it in the back to the breechface of the slide where it comes through to hit the primers after being hit by the hammer.

Navy joe
October 12, 2003, 09:36 PM
Thank you others for adding what I forgot about the stuck pin. I will say that while possible it is highly unlikely since in the slides travel back to battery the trigger bar engages the rear of the striker which would pull it clear of the breech face. Now I figure if you could get Mr. Murphy to leave me alone I suppose you could break the disconnector tab or rear of the striker while at the same time having a dirty pin channel and getting a slamfire special.

A highly more likely #3. Let's say some nimrod hoses his striker channel really good with some very penetrating oil and then loads his gun and forgets about it. Good chance that the oil will seep down and inert his primer of the chambered round. Oopsie.

Things I like for cleaning a striker channel.
-Bore brushes, I think .30cal
-Butch's Bore shine
-Q-tips. Lemme tell you, Q-tip brand q-tips are custom made to be just the right size for this job.

My police refurb G17 seemed to have been refinished over top of the old crud in the striker channel. Trigger was very gritty as a result. I went after it with a slotted dowel and 1600 and 2400 grit sand paper and then dryfired a bunch of cycles with the channel full of JB bore paste. Better than new. If your trigger feels gritty try cleaning in here, be amazed by all the crap in there and then see if your trigger doesn't feel nicer.

Mastrogiacomo
October 12, 2003, 10:25 PM
Thanks for the info. I'm not sure how this would be removed. They (Fedex) told me I have to for shipping but I just remove the ammo clip and say that everything that needs to be removed, has been. They're still a pain though, but not sure if UPS would be better...I wasn't aware this had to be cleaned and hope it's not hard to do. I'll have to read the manual again...

Nero Steptoe
October 13, 2003, 12:24 AM
I've shipped a few firearms; never had anybody suggest that I remove the firing pin. Since you didn't know what a firing pin is, are you sure that they told you to remove the firing pin?

Mastrogiacomo
October 13, 2003, 09:52 AM
Yes they really did. My response was "Ladies, I'm not a gunsmith. I don't even know where it is." They said that when you ship the gun, you need to remove the firing pin. I was sending my compacts to Ernest Langdon at www.langdontactical.com for a level II trigger job. If you read the page, he just says to make sure the gun is mailed empty with the mag and ammo removed. I did this but the way FedEx reacted when I said I was mailing firearms, you'd think I was shipping off a bomb. This whole thing took a little over a half hour -- she went back and got her supervisor. I felt bad for the people behind me....

I'm a lady shooter and new to firearms so although I'm getting to know my Berettas well, I've got a long way to go yet. A lot of what I hear regarding firearms care is still Greek to me....:uhoh:

C. H. Luke
October 13, 2003, 02:06 PM
"When cleaning a Glock
why arn't you supposed to get any oil or solvent in where the firing pin is?"

Almost every new Glock I've worked on had machine oil in the striker channel from the factory.

FWIW, have used a dry-lube like Microlon or Sentry on the striker and in channel. My 34 {with a 4 Lb. Wolff striker spring} has around 15K thru it prepped like this with no problems at all. However, no matter what you do the channel/striker still needs cleaning and most importantly inspection at some regular interval.

All you need to do to satisfy the "Non-firing" requirement with
FedEx or UPS is tie-wrap the trigger in the fully rearwad positon.

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