Prices on guns dropping


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Just Jim
April 9, 2009, 09:42 PM
Was at a gunstore today and saw a like new DPMS AR for just over $800. Dealer was saying that alot of guns were comming in now and he sees the prices falling. Said the guy he got the DPMS from bought it for $1200 and fired 20 rounds through it.

Now if ammo will take a big drop then things will be headed back for normal. What are you guys seeing in your towns??:scrutiny:

jj

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Blackbeard
April 9, 2009, 09:45 PM
Haven't been pricing guns -- just looking for ammo.

Lone_Gunman
April 9, 2009, 09:48 PM
Things are still very high here. Bushmasters are selling for $1150+.

I don't think prices will come down anytime soon, considering what is going on politically. The news media have run a lot of stories about recent mass shootings, the gun culture, militia, and need to ban certain weapons.

Eric Holder and Hillary Clinton have both said they think we need a new AWB.

Nancy Pelosi, previously on record as being against a ban a few months ago, is now saying she is willing to compromise on a new AWB.

Obama, of course, would love one also.

Until this changes, prices will remain high.

the foot
April 9, 2009, 09:50 PM
prices are good here- new dpms M4 style (no sights) for 850,

PT1911
April 9, 2009, 09:50 PM
the prices of the guns never went up more than like 5% wholesale... I have seen DPMS ARs for under 800, the problem is retailers are marking the guns up to a grand or more to take advantage of the situation... now that the demand is slowly dropping, the retailers cannot continue with the rediculous markup. Now they are just marking up ammunition instead.... lets hope that turns around as well...

BTW here a new DPMS optics ready carbine is 750. (at a retailer that is worth a damn anyway.... I have seen the same guns at 1100 or more at "larger" retailers.

Smith and wesson AR with magpull stock, pistol grip, mag, and rear flip up site (magpull also) was just over a grand.

Gamera
April 9, 2009, 09:57 PM
Around here prices are dropping. The gun store I frequent had an unconverted Saiga 7.62 for $460. I would have bought it, but I'm tight on money right now.

flashover251
April 9, 2009, 10:01 PM
In NC I haven't seen much change in the price of guns. Now ammo, thats a different story.

PT1911
April 9, 2009, 10:03 PM
Around here prices are dropping. The gun store I frequent had an unconverted Saiga 7.62 for $460. I would have bought it, but I'm tight on money right now.

Same gun has priced at 389.00 and that isnt a new price.

I know this is getting repetative and for that I apologize, but the actual wholesale price of many of the popular guns that have gotten so expensive recently never went up, the demand did, and thus many retailers took the price as high as possible while still selling them... Cannot fault them for doing that, just glad I know some decent shop owners that are more concerned with consistency and return customers than just turning an immediate profit.

moi_self26
April 9, 2009, 10:09 PM
Prices are still really high here, ammo is scarce (but still findable if you keep up on when shipments are coming in), and the more ma and pa type of gun stores have almost no handguns in stock.

Expertowgunner
April 9, 2009, 10:43 PM
I personally work at Doc Hollidays Gun and Pawn store in Ozark MO and i can tell you that cost of firearms right now is still very high and by cost i mean dealer cost. I have suspected price gouging at other stores but at docs it is not bad. Bass "rip-off" pro in springfield mo is charging $599 for standard glock variants or more for the others and "refurb" sigs are $700 and up. Worst gun that i saw was a springfield armory xdm for a base model is 750 !!! our glocks are 529 new, sigs are around 700 NEW and our xdm is 629 new. After my commission my boss only makes a bit on the guns and i know that prices fluctuate due to region and availability. Intrestingly enough no used aks and a few ars popped up in my store since the obamadamnation started. I order guns for my boss and deal with high end distrubuters such as rsr, lipseys, S.O.G, cdnn, Glock (dealer), and C.I.A and they are all wanting high dollar on their stuff. You want to get real Pi$$ed off, do so towards these distrubuters as they jack the prices up so high its astronomical (1000 for a dpms ar clone!!!) and the such. supply has gotten better though but the prices are not dropping much and ammo IS getting more and more expensive each time i reorder.

jad0110
April 9, 2009, 10:43 PM
ARs never really spiked all that much around here - maybe a 10-15% price increase. SKS prices on the other hand got way out of wack - $1,000 for a standard Russian SKS at a gunshow, others selling for $500.

In the last month, I've seen more than 10 SKSs in the high $280 range, so the prices of some guns seem to be adjusting back to roughly normal.

Dr. Fresh
April 9, 2009, 10:59 PM
My local gun shop has gone insane. They wanted $3k for an HK 91, $1k for pretty much any AK, $650 for an unconverted Saiga, $1200 or so for ARs.

The worst is the two used Mossberg Maverick PGO shotguns they have for $275 each and the Makarov for $325.

Baldy
April 9, 2009, 11:07 PM
Just sold my AR-15 for $1,350 with a EoTec on it. That's what I had in it.

DoubleTapDrew
April 9, 2009, 11:20 PM
Hopefully the market in general has become saturated (not that most THR members could ever have "enough guns", haha) and prices will fall. I sure hope so, things have gotten to the point where I'm not buying anything and it's quite depressing.
Anyone good with wood or metal? Obama deserves a nice "2008-2009 Gun Salesman of the Year" plaque. I have a feeling he wouldn't tack it up on the wall in the Oval Office. :evil:

moi_self26
April 9, 2009, 11:24 PM
Obama deserves a nice "2008-2009 Gun Salesman of the Year" plaque. I have a feeling he wouldn't tack it up on the wall in the Oval Offic

No, but when called in an interview on his heinous attacks on the second amendment he would proudly declare his "honor as a champion of 2A rights" :barf:

Then go off to laugh about u clinging to our guns and bibles infront of other audiences :barf:

Gamera
April 9, 2009, 11:35 PM
Same gun has priced at 389.00 and that isnt a new price.

I know this is getting repetative and for that I apologize, but the actual wholesale price of many of the popular guns that have gotten so expensive recently never went up, the demand did, and thus many retailers took the price as high as possible while still selling them...

Yeah I know that Saigas shouldn't even be that expensive, but going around the gunshows they're tagged at $600-700 dollars. So seeing one for $460 was a bit of a surprise. Maybe the dealers think people are getting wise?

floydster
April 10, 2009, 09:07 AM
Well, I shoot at the range next to the DPMS factory, they are 9,000 orders behind, the shifts are working 24/7. This info I got at the range yesterday.
So I don't think the prices will be dropping anytime soon.

yehork
April 10, 2009, 09:59 AM
Actually we are currently 156,000+ rifles on back order and have a 12-24 month lead time on new rifle orders, depending on upgrades.

We did start our third shift this week, so hopefully once everyone is up to speed, some of the wait times would start to drop a bit.

Duke of Doubt
April 10, 2009, 10:00 AM
A Saiga used to cost a couple hundred or so. It will again, as soon as the banic people stop insisting it's "just like an AK -- and you can convert it -- no, it's the real AK ..." Bullsqueak. It's a cheap kid's rifle. I wouldn't pay $50 for one.

snorky18
April 10, 2009, 10:21 AM
"Anyone good with wood or metal? Obama deserves a nice "2008-2009 Gun Salesman of the Year" plaque." - DoubleTapDrew

It's not in wood or metal, just on paper, but the employee of the month award has already been done at Coal Creek Armory in Knoxville, TN last December.

Image shamelessly stolen from SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/12/01/employee-of-the-month/

Around Charlotte, guns are still $$, and I don't know how much ammo costs, because there isn't ever any to purchase.

searcher451
April 10, 2009, 11:47 AM
I'd like to report that the same is true in my neck of the woods, but I can't. If anything, prices here are starting to creep up a bit, no doubt fueled by the high demand.

One local shop jacked up the price of the Browning Buck Mark target pistols in stock (he had four of them) by upwards of $160 each. When I asked him why, his response was a simple, "See if you can find them elsewhere." Thankfully, I did. I also crossed that shop off my list for future references and, more to the point, future purchases. So it goes.

CoRoMo
April 10, 2009, 12:25 PM
There are several local shops, and plenty online dealers that never raised their prices to begin with. I've bought four new guns since August, and all have been smokin' deals. Of those four, two were rifles bought within the last 45 days. One was an AR. Both of those rifles were bought locally, brand new, at what I consider a pre-election, screaming low price.

Had I bought these gun two years ago, these prices would have been very good prices back then.

You should be able to find dealers with 'normal' prices if you look.

MD_Willington
April 10, 2009, 12:28 PM
LOL - employee of the month...

I really wonder just how much money .GOV has made with all the firearms sales, what do they make, 11% or something like that...

Now if they have had over 1 million extra background checks, that's a lot of extra tax money made...!

Neener Neener
April 10, 2009, 04:58 PM
The craze has started to die down a little at the store I part-time at. Prices really haven't dwindled too much at our store, though. But, we weren't jacking up the prices like the other shops around use, either.

dwg27
April 10, 2009, 05:21 PM
and whats up with cheaper than dirt 22 thunderbolts in a 500 brick costs 35 bucks i just got the same thing for 19

Crashola
April 10, 2009, 05:49 PM
I don't know about prices here, but the demand is still there. The folks at the gun counter at our local big box sporting goods store told me they sold 90 handguns in one day last week.

chuckusaret
April 10, 2009, 06:00 PM
Around here prices are dropping. The gun store I frequent had an unconverted Saiga 7.62 for $460.
Thats the average around these parts for a Saiga. The buying frenzy is over for the most part and I believe the people that bought the over priced SKS and AK's will never recoupe their lose. I also believe that the shops that charged the outragious prices will not see their gun sales return. I am one for sure that will not buy anything from the local stores in my area. I will depend on the net sites and gunshows. One shop in my area bought all the .40 cal WWB from a large box store that they had on the shelf for $12.95 X 50. The next night I used their range and paid $20 for WWB. How do I know, I was the next customer in line behind him and I didn't get any ammo. Sorry, did not mean to get off subject.....

Badlander
April 10, 2009, 06:15 PM
yehork
Who is we?

#shooter
April 10, 2009, 09:14 PM
The one shop that has ARs in has:
DPMS pather lite flattop= $950
Oly Arms reg AR= $900
Remmington varmit= $1150

The box store has Bushmasters (regular) for $1050.


Since he is the only shop stocked I am not sure if those prices are a good deal or not. I haven't been in the market for them so I am not sure I want to jump in yet. I havn't seen an ak in a while and the saiga 12s and 20 ae going for $550.

kyo
April 10, 2009, 09:16 PM
prices the same in GA. and same situation with no ammo.

Phydeaux642
April 10, 2009, 11:05 PM
I personally work at Doc Hollidays Gun and Pawn store in Ozark MO and i can tell you that cost of firearms right now is still very high and by cost i mean dealer cost.

If you go a few miles north that doesn't seem to be the case. One of the shops I deal with in your area has kept prices low all along. Springfield XD9s are $489. Glock 26s $499. Maybe you should look at different distributors.

Refering to Saigas:

It's a cheap kid's rifle. I wouldn't pay $50 for one.

That's very amusing. I'll take all those cheap kid's rifles you can shovel at me for $50.;)

7 Rivers
April 11, 2009, 10:23 AM
On Tuesday at Cabelas in Prairie Du Chein, WI a Glock 23 was priced at $659.00, S&W M&P .40c was $579.00 and a Springfield Government Model .45 was $659.00 (just the prices i can recall).

I don't know about the Smith or the Springfield but the Glock seemed a "bit" high.

runrabbitrun
April 11, 2009, 12:08 PM
Handgun prices are probably on
the rise as rifles became more scarce and higher priced.
(Remember we had a rush on evil black guns and ammo)..

It's a natural order of supply and demand here.

'Oh we don't have any ARs for under $1000.00, sorry about that.
How about a nice Glock 23 at $659.00?"

See my point?

JDoe
April 11, 2009, 07:28 PM
Out in California we are seeing more ammo at Walmart so either the hoarders have begun to max out their credit cards or the supply has increased. Either way it is good for the regular shooters. Some Walmarts still limit how many boxes or rounds a customer can purchase and others have stopped holding ammo for people that call in.

Another interesting trend I'm seeing is an increase in the number of the private sales of ammunition. Some are asking premium prices but others are asking what they paid or what the ammo is selling for today. The sellers that are asking higher prices don't seem to be selling much ammo.

I can't talk too much about the availability of firearms but the supply of AR15 type stripped lower receivers has opened up and there is an abundance of them available for prices starting at $120 or lower.

cornman
April 11, 2009, 07:44 PM
Hummers were expensive for a few years. Now you can't give them away. Once everyone has bought few customers remain, prices drop. It is not like guns wear out.

basicblur
April 11, 2009, 07:53 PM
The gun shop I normally deal with has been selling ARs 'bout soon as he gets 'em-fortunately, he doesn't jack his prices up-apparently he deals with distributors that don't also?

Was in the other day and he just got an Armalite M-15 flatop for $895-think that's 'bout $100 less than they show on Armalite's site?
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=LEC15A4CBK&ReturnUrl=Categories3.aspx?Category=8e8e5de6-5022-483e-812b-822e58014822

If I was in the market (bought all my ARs and ammo well before the panic), it would probably have followed me home!

rugerman07
April 11, 2009, 08:13 PM
The only gun prices I see coming down are the AR 15's as they are becoming more available. I'm more concerned about the ammo prices that are still skyrocketing.

loop
April 12, 2009, 05:44 AM
The shops around here have been raising their prices because they can't supply ammo, holsters or mag pouches to the customers that buy guns.

Almost all the shops have stashed their ammo in the back so they can sell a box or two to people who buy new guns.

Doesn't really bother me too much. The wife made me sell one gun for every one I bought when she found out I had more than 100 guns...

And, I have a group of presses set up for various calibers in my workshop.

Paying ridiculous prices for primers and powder is irritating me though...

ZO6Vettever
April 12, 2009, 08:16 AM
It seems demand is starting to decline, everybody and their brother now has a weapon and things can get back to normal. On line dealers are starting to show more inventory and I'm guessing the ammo shortage will lighten up when we all get our stockpiles where we feel comfortable. I guess most of us raised the quantity we want to keep and helped the frenzy.

Rmfcasey
April 12, 2009, 08:50 AM
With the shape of the economy the pawn shops should have more guns in the next few months. Right now the local shops have only shotguns.
Rmfcasey

dacavasi
April 17, 2009, 12:12 AM
Prices in my area of TX are still fairly inflated. Seems everything went up late last year by about 10-20% compared to a year earlier (go figure...). But then again, it's probably because we're just all buying 'em up here and selling 'em to our GOOD BUDS ACROSS THE BORDER, right?:D

RP88
April 17, 2009, 12:25 AM
saw plenty of overpriced ARs and such, but they arent going anywhere. No one is buying anymore unless its ammo. Everyone already bought their guns, now they need the ammo.

mljdeckard
April 17, 2009, 12:47 AM
I was in Cabela's last weekend, and they had an honest-to-Stoner Bushmaster M-4 in there for 800 some odd dollars. The place was still packed, and there wasn't any of the most common ammo, but the shelves weren't empty like Sportsman's Warehouse has been. Hopefully my cases of Wolf should be there this week.

Pack
April 17, 2009, 01:09 AM
Things are still a bit high here, in my opinion.

I think the prices will remain about where they are here until after everyone who's going to spend any tax refund they may have on weapons has done so. Then, after a period of selling a lot less than they were, I think retailers will let the prices start gently slumping back to normal. Maybe a few more months along, and we'll be in good shape?

And by in "good shape", I mean I, for one, will be kicking myself in the @$$ for having bitten off on a couple of guns that I knew were a tad overpriced. At least I also did get what I thought were some decent deals in the same buying frenzy...

As a complete tangent - in the last 6 months, how many totally new gun owners do you think we picked up? Nationwide, I'll bet one million people who were previously unarmed remedied their respective situations.

Mags
April 17, 2009, 01:16 AM
Out of the 7 Firearms stores I frequent only one still gives a Military/LE discount on their guns. One guy actually told me he didn't care if I bought a gun from him because someone else will. Well that someone won't be a military person because I spread the word on that store all over the base.

4x4given
April 17, 2009, 06:17 AM
The wife just bought a S&W M&P 9 from Academy for $499. It was $579 at Cabelas (now on sale as of yesterday for $549) and $569 at a local GS.

GojuBrian
April 17, 2009, 07:23 AM
Cabela's is a RIP_OFF!!

Ammo prices are crazy here. Saw winchester .380 target ammo for $80/100rds.

I can get .40/100 rds at wally world for $35.

In the last few months I bought a remington 597 ($167), browning buckmark9$175), mossberg 500a($200), and a taurus millenium pro 9mm ($330). All for good prices I believe. The Xdm's here are $619 for base models $639 for stainless. "Assault rifles" are ridiculous!

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