I have my dad's old M52 Winchester
Topgun
October 11, 2003, 02:33 PM
and am looking for a use for it. What ranges are indoor small bore matches shot at? (Lousy sentence)
Anyhow, would the Unertl scope I put on it some years back (12x target spring mount) be useable on indoor or not?
Completely GREEN on rifle shooting.
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C.R.Sam
October 11, 2003, 03:10 PM
Have seen a lot of 10 meter indoor ranges and a few that could go out to 50yds.
That scope is a treasure, check to see if it will focus clearly enough at the distance you want. Some will do it ok at 10m, not crystal clear but quite useable.
If it were mine, I would also be lookin for really good iron sights for it.
That can be a pretty serious target gun even in this modern age.
Enjoy the old jewel.
Sam
Khornet
October 11, 2003, 05:49 PM
congrats. You are the owner of the finest 22 rilfe ever made.
But tell us more. Model 52 what? 52B, 52C, 52D? Or just plain 52 (up until 1930 or so)? The barrel will be marked. If you tell me the serial # I can date it for you.
With a reciever aperture sight, they are excellent target rifles. Replacement magazines are available from Brownells. Your scope sounds like a valuable antique target scope. It will be quite fuzzy at 10m though. Iron sights will be much better.
I've done tons of 52 shooting at 10m using CCI CB Longs, which sound like a staple gun in the 52. They are a bit short for the magazine, so you have to be attentive to how you work the bolt. Check out the fine book by Houze (or Howze) "The Winchester Model 52: Perfection In Design". You'll be even more happy. Peolple buy old 52s for $600+ and throw away the barrel and stock just to get the action!
Yesterday I bench-sighted a beater 52B made in 1948. It has a butchered stock, shortened with a chainsaw I think, a stock crack which I glued, terrible metal blemishes and pitting, but a sound action and bore. I glass-bedded it and scoped it, and with a fixed 4X scope using Win. Power Point high-speeds, it shoots 0.2" 5-shot 50-yd groups. Zeroed in about 1/3" high at 50 yd, it qill be a deadly squirrel rifle if my work ever permits me to get out. If you have a 52, you need no other .22 rifle.
Topgun
October 12, 2003, 01:52 AM
CR Sam......the scope was at a gun show on a table an I asked the price.
85 bucks. I'll take it. Oh sorry it's sold. Well if its sold why is it there? Oh the guy is gonna bring me the money. How long ago did he leave? Oh about an hour. Then he aint comin back. Waaaaal, I wonta gib him tahm to git da money. How long? Til 3:30.
pace
pace
pace
3:31 I'm back.
Well?
Waaaal he aint showed so ah gess yew kin have it.
WHIIIIIIIP money out. Grab scope. Leave show before 3:32
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Khornet. I have about 12 1930's medals my ol man won wit da gun.
It's a plain 52. Has the barrel band, 5 shot mag, and that old looooong dovetail rear sight. I won 1st place with his old Woodsman back in 63.
But the ol RIFLE has just been a sittin. My dad traded it to a guy for some silly thing becuz when I was little I cudnt lift the 52.
Then I grew. The guy still had the 52. It was the gun he LOANED out when someone wanted to go shooting. AAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
I had a Marlin 60 that he wanted reeeeeal bad cuz it shot faster an was lighter. I hemmed an hawed and finally let him trade me out of that Marlin. An all I got was the ol 52. An the Marlin was .....NEW. I know...I'm just too generous.
Then got the scope and shot a few squirrels but watchin it on PAPER is just MUSIC. So now I got the hots to shoot it again.
It has a trigger job by the famous old Stockton Calif gunsmith of the 30's, George Titherington.
My kid has the Woodsman as I got a HS Trophy. And I have always done more pistol shootin.
The fambly has always been a buncha dumb paper punchers.
45R
October 12, 2003, 02:23 AM
Topgun-
There is a new indoor range in Elk Grove called The Gun Room on Survey Road. Good place to shoot when the weather gets colder. :)
45R
Khornet
October 12, 2003, 10:45 AM
does it have the knurled cocking piece like a Springfield 03, or the stubby one with a slotted screw in the end? If the latter, it's a 1929 Speedlock 52, sometimes called incorrectly the 52A, but letters weren't added until the 52B. Most of the speedlock rifles were retrofits of the original Springfield-type long lock-time trigger system, so your rifle was probably made between 1919 and 1930.
Are the sidewalls of the breech area--where you can look in with the bolt open and see the mag follower-of the same height, or is the left one higher? That denotes a newer rifle. I'll bet they're the same height. I have a plain 52 with speeedlock, prob'ly just like yours. A treasure!
They often shot these at 100 yd or more. I just can't see that well anymore.
tommyc
October 12, 2003, 11:20 AM
My mom just recently gave me her 1945 model 52b heavy barrell w/ Unertl scope for my b'day. I've also got the inserts for the peep sights. She shot it when she was a kid as did my brother and I. I made just below Distinguished Expert with it. Its been sitting in their gun cabinet for the last 15 years or so collecting dust.
Topgun
October 12, 2003, 02:11 PM
stubby slotted speedlock. Same height receiver sides flush with stock.
Ser #202xx
Stock a bit nicked on bottom from when the OTHER guy loaned it out from using to hold down barbed wire fencing to cross wires. ugh.
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