Decision Time: Garand or 1911


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Babarsac
April 11, 2009, 07:18 PM
After looking at my finances and the ever changing political climate I've decided to buy another firearm in the near future :D. To cater to my love of WWII history I've narrowed my choices down to a GI style 1911 (RIA or High Standard) or an M1 Garand. I know that finding ammo for either of these will be a pain in the rump but I'd love to pick one up before the prices get worse.

Suggestions?

Comments?

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Duke of Doubt
April 11, 2009, 07:50 PM
Nothing like a Garand. Shot mine with two other Garand collectors and theirs the other day. Terrific time. Terrific rifle. If you can see it, you can probably hit it.

Babarsac
April 12, 2009, 12:27 AM
Now that I meet the requirements for the CMP I can get one of their Garands at a similar price of an entry-level 1911....hmmm

Eric F
April 12, 2009, 12:33 AM
1911 its just more useful in todays society, stick with RIA great reputation with them

Furncliff
April 12, 2009, 12:36 AM
Really like my RIA. Cheaper ammo too. :)

chris in va
April 12, 2009, 12:55 AM
Garand. Only because I want one.:scrutiny::D

Threeband
April 12, 2009, 01:27 AM
Get both. They go together.

johncantiusgarand
April 12, 2009, 01:50 AM
They don't make Garands anymore. Sure, the CMP always seems to have gobs of them, but they WILL eventually run out. I've lost count of the number of current manufacturers of 1911-style pistols. Get the Garand while they're still relatively inexpensive. Then save up for a 1911.

Sunray
April 12, 2009, 02:03 AM
Yep. .45's will always be around. An M1 you know is safe to shoot won't be.
"...while they're still relatively inexpensive..." Relative is right. Mine cost me $175Cdn. So did my 1903A4. Not recently, of course. There is something about an M1 that no other rifle has.
The CMP has ammo too, but there's a wait. Meanwhile, Federal and Hornady load suitable ammo. Reloading is the way to go though.

10-Ring
April 12, 2009, 02:05 AM
Hands down, the Garand.

Zach S
April 12, 2009, 02:08 AM
I own several 1911s, so I would get the Garand.

shotgunjoel
April 12, 2009, 02:14 AM
Garand

FlyinBryan
April 12, 2009, 02:18 AM
ive had 1911s for 20+ years and have now had a cmp service grade for about 2 months.

definitly the garand.

the cmp sells real garands that are rebuilt/checked by 1st class military level armorers and tested before being sold.

when they are gone, thats it, they are gone. they dont grow them anymore.

on a performance note, the power of the garand is absolutely incredible for a quick shooting semi-auto. 150-175 grain bullets screaming downrange at velocities comparable to high powered rifles shooting bullets one third the size.

like the duke said above,,,if you see it, 100yds, 200yds, 600yds,,,whatever, you can shoot it.

ive never experienced anything quite like them before.

my 45: pop pop pop pop pop pop



































my garand:KABOOOOOOOM (x 8 of course)

Sunray
April 12, 2009, 02:23 AM
"...rebuilt/checked by 1st class military level armorers..." Checked yes, but not by military weapons tech. Mostly very knowledgeable volunteers.

FlyinBryan
April 12, 2009, 02:30 AM
military LEVEL

i suppose i should have said "ex military" instead of "military level" though, because actually the one i spoke to in ohio said he "was an armorer in the service for 12 years"

he was also very friendly even after i talked to him for 15 minutes thinking i was talking to the alabama store.

those guys are incredibly friendly and patient with everyone. there was probably 30-40 people that rushed in the door when they opened. it was, for lack of a better term, a mad house in there.

rojocorsa
April 12, 2009, 04:24 AM
The one that likes to cough up 230gr. ball...

Brian Dale
April 12, 2009, 05:06 AM
There's nothing like an M1 Garand.

Taurus_9mm
April 12, 2009, 05:19 AM
The grand Garand. :)

scythefwd
April 12, 2009, 06:18 AM
rojocorsa,
That would be the 1911 right?

FlyinBrian,
Last I checked, a lot of people consider the .30-06 a high powered rifle. There is something satisfying about sending 168gr rounds down range at 2800 fps though.

helz_mcfugly
April 12, 2009, 12:06 PM
I dont think he meant the 30-06 isnt a high powered rifle, pretty sure he was compairing the "30-06 high powered rifle" to a
"high powered rifles shooting bullets one third the size. like say a .223

So last you checked with a lot of people yielded a correct answer. :neener:

FlyinBryan
April 12, 2009, 01:45 PM
FlyinBrian,
Last I checked, a lot of people consider the .30-06 a high powered rifle. There is something satisfying about sending 168gr rounds down range at 2800 fps though.

you must be talking about when i said this.

on a performance note, the power of the garand is absolutely incredible for a quick shooting semi-auto. 150-175 grain bullets screaming downrange at velocities comparable to high powered rifles shooting bullets one third the size.


yes, the garand is a high powered rifle.

i just didnt want the sentence to sound like this:

please allow myself to introduce,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,myself...??...

rojocorsa,
That would be the 1911 right?

and yes, the 1911 is the one that shoots 230 grain ball ammunition.

the garand most often shoots 147-180 grain bullets. anything larger can cause excessive op rod stress, as can powders outside the burn rate range.

many, if not most, use imr4895, or h4895 when reloading for it for the reasons above (i handload everything our garands eat)

searcher451
April 12, 2009, 01:48 PM
The most obvious answer is both; why deprive yourself of one or the other of two of the most storied guns in U.S. history? The real question then boils down to this: Which one do I get first?

helz_mcfugly
April 12, 2009, 03:05 PM
Get the Garand first. you can always get a good 1911 but all the really good garands will be all but gone soon.

dmazur
April 12, 2009, 03:07 PM
+1 to the Garand. 1911's are likely to be available after the Garand supply dries up. (Hard to imagine a "no more Garands" future, but it is going to occur...)

In terms of ammo availability, I would suggest reloading. Supplies for this aren't a whole lot better than loaded ammunition, but as demand drops off things are sure to settle down. (Perhaps oversupply will actually cause prices to drop a little? Wishful thinking...)

61chalk
April 12, 2009, 03:45 PM
My vote for the Garand. So much history, an it gets the looks at the range. You can still find a WWII era one at CMP, an their ammo at 75.00 for 194 rds. in 8 rd. enblock clips can't be beat.

Babarsac
April 12, 2009, 07:24 PM
I think I will have to go with the Garand then. I have avout 1400rnds of surplus (Korean?) sitting in the garage that would go to good use. Plus with my C&R and recent NRA membership CMP here I come!

AlaskaErik
April 13, 2009, 02:13 AM
I would never own a 1911, so it's an easy choice for me.

JShirley
April 13, 2009, 02:28 AM
'pends on what else you have. If you already have a good "duty sized" handgun (full-sized .38/9x19mm-.357/10mm/.45), get the Garand. If you don't, get the 1911. If you already have good full-power rifles and duty-sized handguns, do what you feel. :)

J

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