Family of Virginia Tech massacre victims to unveil gun law ad


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Suicide*Ride
April 12, 2009, 08:53 AM
Here's the link: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/04/10/2009-04-10_bloomberg_family_of_virginia_tech_massacre_victims_to_unveil_gun_law_ad_.html

BY Adam Lisberg
DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU CHIEF

Friday, April 10th 2009, 2:24 PM


Watts/News

Mayor Bloomberg joins an anti-gun protest in 2007.
Family members of Virginia Tech massacre victims will join Mayor Bloomberg in Virginia on Monday to unveil a new TV ad telling the state to tighten its gun laws.

The commercial, paid for by a Bloomberg-funded lobbying group called Americans United for Safe Streets, will hit the airwaves in time for the Thursday's second anniversary of the killings.

The ad targets a provision in Virginia law that lets people buy weapons at gun shows without background checks.

Bloomberg previously set up a coalition of mayors to push for tougher gun laws, and has run ad campaigns through that coalition in the past.

If the anti's can use TV to push for this, how can we (gun owners) use TV to combat against it? :uhoh:

Any ideas??

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bigfatdave
April 12, 2009, 12:27 PM
Perhaps they should be pushing the control of murderers and the mentally unstable, not further restrictions on tools.

How will disarming lawful citizens make anyone safer?

TexasRifleman
April 12, 2009, 12:33 PM
The ad targets a provision in Virginia law that lets people buy weapons at gun shows without background checks.

So uhhh, Cho bought his firearms from a dealer, not at a gun show.

He even passed the NICS check, which is what the so called "gun show loophole" avoids.

How stupid are people exactly?

runrabbitrun
April 12, 2009, 02:08 PM
It's hard to imagine how
family members of the victims can even THINK
that by enacting more restrictive guns laws, it will 'somehow'
protect more people in the future in the event some nut goes postal.

Some days, I think the sheeple have removed
the wool from their eyes and then I see stuff like this.

Amazing, simply amazing. :rolleyes:

If anything, (if one of my family members was a victim)
I'd be yelling to STOP the madness of trying to disarm
and restrict law abiding citizens from protecting themselves.

Un believable the Kool-Aid some of these people will drink. :banghead:

armoredman
April 12, 2009, 02:09 PM
That "gun-free-zone" parody ad might be nice...

Duke of Doubt
April 12, 2009, 05:25 PM
My sympathy for those people ends when they exploit their dead relative for political purposes, much as a certain nauseating antiwar activist exploited her heroic dead son a few years ago, and much as a certain family exploited September 11 to have their missing, criminal daughter reclassified as a victim of the attacks despite lack of evidence she either survived until 9/11 or was on Ground Zero at H-Hour (long but fascinating story):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22960745/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneha_Anne_Philip

And how stupid. It would be like survivors of an air disaster using the dead to support banning commercial aircraft, and closing the "Fixed Base Operator Loophole."

Kenpo
April 12, 2009, 05:45 PM
Ideas? I think we need more people like this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675&p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ggg0LwhrH0&feature=related

People who have experienced loss, but remain objective, logical and aware of how this all really works.

The anti's are reaching out and contacting anyone they think they can sway to their side, especially people who have suffered violence in their lives where guns are involved. Some of these people may not have been particularly anti gun, but couple their hurt and emotional state, and take an eloquent anti pushing arguments with skewed facts and they may become incline to be involved in this type of anti commercial.

Ideas? Organization and network. Contact people who also have lost loved ones to violent encounters where guns were involved but who remain clear headed on the issue and work to get their voices heard. The anti's think someone who lost a family member or friend has more credibility. On an emotional scale (in terms of how it connects with "fence sitters" etc) they probably do. That's why they target these people.

The general public, the sheeple, need to realize that not everyone who has experienced gun related violence thinks gun restrictions are the answer.... not even close.

ArmedBear
April 13, 2009, 01:31 PM
It's hard to imagine how
family members of the victims can even THINK
that by enacting more restrictive guns laws, it will 'somehow'
protect more people in the future in the event some nut goes postal.

Psychologically, it could be very hard to allow yourself to think that your kid might not be dead if only he/she had been armed. It suggests that their death did not NEED to happen.

Prince Yamato
April 13, 2009, 02:07 PM
This is going to backfire. As soon as the reasons behind the ad are exposed, people will lose sympathy for the victims. "We need to close the gunshow loophole so people like Cho can't get guns!"..."Right! Because if it weren't for the loophole, Cho wouldn't have guns!"..."Well, Cho didn't buy his guns at a gunshow."... "Well, why are you advocating for this law then?"


Watch... these people are digging themselves into a hole.

Suicide*Ride
April 14, 2009, 02:45 AM
Watch... these people are digging themselves into a hole.

One can only hope...

BTW - Family members of Virginia Tech massacre victims will join Mayor Bloomberg in Virginia on Monday to unveil a new TV ad telling the state to tighten its gun laws.

Has anyone seen the ad yet?

Zundfolge
April 14, 2009, 04:31 PM
Has anyone seen the ad yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOyZluuVjc8

Its right on the front of AUSS's home page.
http://americansunitedforsafestreets.org/

Suicide*Ride
April 15, 2009, 01:06 AM
I asked if anyone had seen the ad yet because I can't. I was hoping folks would comment on the things that they thought were either right or wrong as far as RKBA goes.

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