[Gophfer]

My son is moving from San Diego to Bangor maine and was trying to find a gun friendly route. He will have a Florida resident CCW and a Maine Non resident CCW by then. He can't get to Maine (and stay legal) from CA without locking his gun up in some stated. Basically the red and yellow states (below) will be the problem.

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[Gordon]

Bottom of New Mex. Don't speed in New Mex!

[Airwolf]

New Mexico has a 'loophole'. You can carry a concealed handgun and ammo. As long as the gun isn't loaded, it isn't considered a concealed weapon.

Leave the gun concealed as you'd normally do and keep the mag in a weak-side (but readily accessible) pocket. Practice!

Not the best situation, but beats your defense tool being unloaded and locked in the trunk any day.

[80fl]

Check packing.org for interstate regulations.

Typically, if the firearm is legal from where you are coming, and is legal at your destination, you won't have any problems.

What, may I ask, will he be doing in Bangor? I own a business in neighboring Orono.

[Mike Irwin]

Depending on where he is in California (can't recall if San Diego is North or South), there will be a big difference if he can take a Southern route vs. a Northern route.

But no matter what he does, he'd probably be best served if he were to lock his gun in one container, and the ammo in another, before he gets to New York or Massachusetts.

And he should avoid New Jersey altogether.

Is he in the Air Force? Doesn't the AF have a big base near Bangor?

[MarineTech]

Mike,

Air Force no longer has a presence in Maine other then a couple of small meteorlogical stations. The one former SAC base we had was Loring AFB located in the northern-most part of the state (Limestone, ME). That was closed down in the 90's. The only military presence we now have in Maine outside of reserves, weather stations, and a few remote radar sites, is Brunswick Naval Air Station. Bangor was an airbase during WW2, but was closed down after the war along with a German POW internment camp in my old home town of Houlton. The local museum in Houlton still has pictures of German POWs helping out during the potato harvest while guards watched in the background.

[Mike Irwin]

Marine,

Oh, I thought there had been a SAC base outside of Bangor.

Any way you cut it though, I envy Fire's son. That's a beautiful part of the state.

[mparris71]

Pick up a book named " Traveler's Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States" By J.Scott Kappas, Esq its updated every year to keep up with the Liberals. www.gunlawguide.com

[OF]

Typically, if the firearm is legal from where you are coming, and is legal at your destination, you won't have any problems.Do you have any reason in particular for stating this? I doubt they're going to let you on your merry way in New York or Mass. if you get 'outed'.

- Gabe

[OF]

Firemedic,

Do you have a map made up of each states reciprocity w/ the two CCW's he'll have? That would be a big help.

- Gabe

[JerryN]

Last I heard NY was a "don't even bother applying" state. God applied last year and was turned down. Not terribly constitutional, it seems.

[80fl]

GRD:

The following is from the ATF website, FAQ section. I didn't have time to research further, but I have seen another provision that explicitly addresses traveling through non compliant states.
As you will note, the ATF only states that you should check with the DESTINATION state to verify legality. It says nothing of checking with each state which you will be traveling THROUGH.
I'll try to update this later.


B11) May a person who is relocating out-of-state move firearms with other household goods? [Back]


Yes. A person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or ship the firearm interstate when changing his or her state of residence. Certain NFA firearms must have prior approval from the Bureau of ATF, NFA Branch, Washington, DC 20226, before they may be moved interstate. The person must notify the mover that firearms are being transported. He or she should also check state and local laws where relocating to ensure that movement of firearms into the new state does not violate any state law or local ordinance. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 4), 27 CFR 178.28 and 178.31]

[OF]

Crating guns in the moving van and packing heat on the road are two completely different things. I'm relatively sure as well, that if you unloaded and boxed up all the guns and had them secured in the back, you're good to travel. The thing Firemedic is asking about, or at least how I understand it, is can his son carry across the country. Which is very much governed by each state's law.

Just to be sure we're talking about the same thing...

- Gabe

[80fl]

GRD: You are correct. I will again refer to packing.org which the following is from:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 44 > Sec. 926A.

Sec. 926A. - Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console

[Gila Jorge]

NM is interesting however, as your car is an extention of your residence....not like TX where your car is extention of your person. Therefore in TX you must have CHL to carry in your car but not so in NM. You can have the gun in your car just as you would your house.

[OF]

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof,...So, does this mean that absent any relevant law in the locality, you are bound by this federal law? Unless the state says: "Go ahead and carry here, stranger" or "disassemble the piece and scatter it to the four winds prior to crossing the state line", you must follow the rule above?

- Gabe

[80fl]

Gabe: That would be my assumption. Barring any explicit state law, either outling the conditions or banning completely, I would assume that the fed.gov rules would apply.