best 9mm compact under 700.00
tracman2
April 12, 2009, 12:42 PM
Bride needs 9mm for CC. Very many options, but I do not have clear pic of way to go..as always, many opinions,,, she is shooting Glock 17 now but needs new for carry...
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ArmedBear
April 12, 2009, 12:49 PM
Given the options out there, I'd suggest handling a few.
I like the grip safety on the XD, just because I feel better about tossing it somewhere. For a purse gun that could get mixed up with other stuff, I'd consider something with more safety provisions than a Glock.
I know the Glock cult will attack this assertion, but my question is simple: how can it hurt to have a safety system that accounts for more possible types of accidents?
If it's not a purse gun, and it will be in a secure holster, then this is much less of a concern IMO.
Various pistols have different ergonomics. I'd try a few if she can. Some will feel natural, some will feel odd, some will feel downright wrong. Given the number of quality guns out there, I'd pick the one that feels natural in the hands.
Ala Dan
April 12, 2009, 12:52 PM
Kahr CW-9 polymer frame, stainless or hard chrome slide,
single-stack, dependable, and only 25 ozs. at $399~! :) ;)
armoredman
April 12, 2009, 01:18 PM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/czbath.jpg
All the CZ compact pistols are still well under $700, and worth more, in my humble opinion.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/familypicture.jpg
ArmedBear
April 12, 2009, 01:22 PM
That ad was even more effective when CZs were under 400 bucks instead of 700, but CZ makes a hell of a pistol.
(Kicking myself for not buying a few when they were between $300 and $400, not too long ago...)
Dan Crocker
April 12, 2009, 01:56 PM
The Glock 19 is an excellent compact 9mm. Armed Bear is correct; if it's going in a purse, there is the danger of something getting caught in the trigger.
However, to mitigate that...there's this: http://www.themalabarfront.com/product_info.php?products_id=1617
ArchAngelCD
April 12, 2009, 02:03 PM
If she is now shooting a Glock 17 and likes the Glock why not a G19 or even a G26?
gotime242
April 12, 2009, 02:27 PM
+1 on the CW9 or also check out the kel-tec pf9 for 300 bucks.
Deanimator
April 12, 2009, 02:35 PM
Bride needs 9mm for CC. Very many options, but I do not have clear pic of way to go..as always, many opinions,,, she is shooting Glock 17 now but needs new for carry...
Glock 19. I carry one frequently (including today).
Carrying ANY firearm loose in a purse is not the best idea. Get a purse designed for carry, or affix a holster to the inside of the purse. Don't choose a gun based on a dubious method of carry.
Isher
April 12, 2009, 02:39 PM
+1 to armoredman's post.
CZ all the way. They are just incredibly good, reliable weapons.
The fact that the P-01's are NATO classed speaks softly with a big stick.
They tortured the crap out of that model, with the result that it is a
Winner under conditions the normal civilian would never even come close to.
isher
kwikrnu
April 12, 2009, 02:40 PM
kahr pm9 is nice. I just sold a p9 I carried for years. My hands are too big for a pm9.
chris in va
April 12, 2009, 03:07 PM
Look at the Kahr PM9. Many rave reviews. Small, thin, light and still 9mm.
Of course I reccommend she pick the one she likes, based on range time.
My friend didn't like the J-frame whatsoever, and chose my P11 instead.
dogtown tom
April 12, 2009, 04:28 PM
+1 on the Kahr CW9 and PM9.
Caution........after carrying a Kahr all other guns become fat.
PT1911
April 12, 2009, 04:33 PM
Kahr Cw9 and Kel tec PF 9
nothing else comes close...
David E
April 12, 2009, 04:55 PM
CW-9 makes the most sense. PM-9 is too small.
But, of course, go to a range and rent several and see which one SHE likes and would actually carry.
searcher451
April 12, 2009, 06:17 PM
It's tough to top a Walther P99C for performance, reliability, accuracy, durability, and accuracy. It's a terrific gun at any price and often can be secured for under $600. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one to any serious shooter/enthusiast.
SCKimberFan
April 12, 2009, 06:21 PM
Another vote for CZs. Your choice: the 75 Compact, the PCR or the P01.
senior
April 12, 2009, 07:31 PM
+1 on that rami 9mm, have the alloy version and as reliable as the sun rising, plenty accurate and the feel of it in your hand is like it was molded there, specially with that 4 rd extention
mbr
April 12, 2009, 07:44 PM
Go to a range, let her try several, get the one she wants. Its her gun.
Tango Victor
April 12, 2009, 08:45 PM
Don't forget to take a look at the S&W M&P 9c
10-Ring
April 12, 2009, 09:09 PM
Since it sounds like she is already proficient w/ her 17, I would recommend a 19 or 26 -- plus she has the advantage of being able to use the same mags
jmahalek
April 12, 2009, 09:14 PM
+1 Kahr CW9. I love mine and am dead A$$ accurate with it after only a few range trips.
Mags
April 12, 2009, 09:32 PM
Okay I know most people hate S&W Polymers but I would suggest the M&Pc in 9mm. I have one and use it for my conceal carry with an inside the waistband holster. It has the same functions of a Glock but it fits my hand better and is extemely accurate for a gun with less than a 4 inch barrel.For 500 bucks you can pick your wife one of these up and when you want you can get a 250 dollar set of Crimson Trace Laser grips that fits in place of the backstrap.
And now the S&W bashing will begin...
Redhawk1
April 12, 2009, 10:03 PM
Sig, Kahr CW9, S&W M&P 9c. 3 very good CCW guns.
BADSBSNF81
April 12, 2009, 10:10 PM
Handle the XD, Glock 19, Walther PPS, P99C, Kahr, etc. One of them will just feel "right" more often than not. If more than one feels that way, try to shoot them side by side.
AKElroy
April 12, 2009, 10:13 PM
g19.
503glock
April 12, 2009, 10:44 PM
glock 19 is my pick . i have shot many liked few. wanted all...lol
f4t9r
April 12, 2009, 10:58 PM
I found a pistol I like real well that fits what you want.
HK 9mm Compact 689.00
Deanimator
April 13, 2009, 01:11 AM
Okay I know most people hate S&W Polymers but I would suggest the M&Pc in 9mm.
No, a lot of people hate the Sigma. The M&P is quite popular.
Pack
April 13, 2009, 01:29 AM
I still regret trading away a Beretta Cougar in 9mm. They also made a slightly smaller - in frame, not barrel - "mini cougar".
These guns were originally, if I recall, north of the $700 price point, but can be had used.
If you don't care about the Beretta name, the same gun is made on the same tooling (now in Turkey) under the Stoeger name, at a more affordable price.
Some may say the gun was overpriced as a Beretta, but in my ownership I felt the gun was worth the money. So much the better that the same gun can now be had for less.
Brian Williams
April 13, 2009, 09:24 AM
A lot have said the G19 because she shoots a G17, that would be my first thought. Then you said it goes in a purse, Get a Keltec p-11 and a few 69 series S&W mags.
Legasat
April 13, 2009, 02:06 PM
For me it's easily the M&P or M&Pc. Very comfortable, easy to shoot, rock solid reliable, and well within your budget.
Highly recommended.
Gary G
PX15
April 13, 2009, 03:27 PM
FMOfartO:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_9857.jpg
S&W 3913 LadySmith or CS9.
jesse
1-cavediver
April 13, 2009, 03:31 PM
The new Walther PPS 9mm is a fantastic compact pistol and perfect for concealed carry. It is thin (Police Pistol Slim), light, amazing accuracy, completely reliable and fantastic fit and finish. It is also available in 40SW if that is your preferred round.
Steve C
April 13, 2009, 03:57 PM
Think your approaching the issue wrong. I'd suggest you two go looking for a good gun purse rather than looking for a smaller gun. Depending upon the lady and how large a purse she can or will carry a full size pistol or medium compact can be concealed easily in a popper bag.
With a gun purse there isn't any problem with "things" in the purse catching in the trigger or the gun mixing with the other stuff carried. It also allows a cleaner draw if it is needed.
Google "gun purse" to find various sources. Most women like to shop for purses better than guns anyway.
pogo2
April 13, 2009, 04:51 PM
The Sig P239 is a great 9mm carry gun, and safety is provided by the long, 10 pound DA first trigger pull. They generally cost under $700. I paid $575 for this one used, with an unusual monochrome stainless look:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/SigP23961.jpg
PX15
April 13, 2009, 05:10 PM
1-cavediver:
Respectfully my experience with 2 Walther PPS pistols was not as pleasant as your experience apparently has been.
My first new PPS developed ejector problems after roughly 150-200 rounds, and was sent back for warranty repair to S&W. The pistol was returned UNREPAIRED and sent back a 2nd time.
After sending the original PPS back to S&W I spoke to a senior Customer Service Representative and told him to either FIX the defective pistol, or send me a new replacement.
Several weeks later UPS brought me a new replacement.
After approximately 50 rounds the 2nd PPS became unreliable and I sold the sucker.
Perhaps the later PPS pistols were better, but the two early models I had were not satisfactory.
I'm NOT a Walther basher and in the past have owned a PP/P99c/AS and P99/AS also a P1 and P5. I have a great respect for Walther pistols in general, but my PPS experience was less than satisfactory.
In fact my P99c/AS was a better pistol all the way around although it is obviously not as thin as the PPS. The P99c/AS was more accurate, and had a greater capacity than the PPS.
Just personal opinion...
Best Wishes,
Jesse
P.S. Someone else recommended the Sig P239, and I would 2nd that recommendation. I bought one new, and it was 100% reliable, very accurate, and with the addition of Crimson Trace Lasergrips makes a fine personal defense choice.
PX15
April 13, 2009, 05:12 PM
1-cavediver:
Respectfully my experience with 2 Walther PPS pistols was not as pleasant as your experience apparently has been.
My first new PPS developed ejector problems after roughly 150-200 rounds, and was sent back for warranty repair to S&W. The pistol was returned UNREPAIRED and sent back a 2nd time.
After sending the original PPS back to S&W I spoke to a senior Customer Service Representative and told him to either FIX the defective pistol, or send me a new replacement.
Several weeks later UPS brought me a new replacement.
After approximately 50 rounds the 2nd PPS became unreliable and I sold the sucker.
Perhaps the later PPS pistols were better, but the two early models I had were not satisfactory.
I'm NOT a Walther basher and in the past have owned a PP/P99c/AS and P99/AS also a P1 and P5. I have a great respect for Walther pistols in general, but my PPS experience was less than satisfactory.
In fact my P99c/AS was a better pistol all the way around although it is obviously not as thin as the PPS. The P99c/AS was more accurate, and had a greater capacity than the PPS, and I personally preferred the "AS" trigger over that of the "glocklike" trigger/striker of the PPS..
Just personal opinion...
Best Wishes,
Jesse
P.S. Someone else recommended the Sig P239, and I would 2nd that recommendation. I bought one new, and it was 100% reliable, very accurate, and with the addition of Crimson Trace Lasergrips makes a fine personal defense choice.
Hawk
April 13, 2009, 05:21 PM
Ordinarily, I'd link to cornered cat but if all we're doing is compiling a list of 9mm autoloading handguns...
STI GP-6
(I did that just to be different).
:D
SirPeasant
April 13, 2009, 05:34 PM
I agree with SteveC ... the wife bought a really nice leather purse delivered for only $65.00
I hope this link works and hers is the M30.
http://www.gungear.com/ez-catalog/X300536/2
Matrix187
April 14, 2009, 06:09 PM
CZ P-01 or CZ RAMI 9mm. I would choose those over a glock 19 just because they fit most peoples hands so well (the CZ's).
distra
April 14, 2009, 08:26 PM
G19, CZ PCR, M&Pc, Kel-tec PF-9 (my wife likes hers a lot).
kentucky_smith
April 14, 2009, 08:33 PM
Love my PPS
hinton03
April 15, 2009, 04:04 AM
I have settled on the Kahr K9. Excellent trigger, thin, enough weight to make it controllable and as reliable as a swiss watch.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=91917&d=1233306600
GojuBrian
April 15, 2009, 05:06 AM
Xd 9mm, sub-compact even. Best ccw tact pistola!! :neener:
kludge
April 15, 2009, 09:48 AM
If she like the G17, have her look at the Glock 19 or 26.
Also...
S&W M&P9c
XD-9sc
Sig P250
...would be my short list.
for sub-compact Kel-Tec P11 and PF-9...
I'd go with something on the first list (cheaper and better) rather than the Kahr (OK, the Sig probably isn't cheaper).
hometheaterman
April 15, 2009, 12:52 PM
Not really compact but the Ruger SR9 or the Springfield XDm would be my choices.
skeeter_08
April 15, 2009, 01:13 PM
I saw a used Sig P228 at the gunshop last night for $650.00, I had one of these once, and I wish I still had it since I would definitely consider the P228 one of the best compact 9's that I know of anyway - skeeter_08
Carne Frio
April 15, 2009, 01:20 PM
What Steve C and Sirpeasant both said. Just like a quality holster, a quality purse, designed for concealed carry is important. Try searching for them. Coronadoleather.com puts out very high quality stuff. Also, since the G17 is familiar to her, the G19 or G26 are naturals.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
April 15, 2009, 01:34 PM
In my last purchase it came down to the SR9 and PPS. I took the SR9.
This is all subjective:
They were quite similar in size and weight--of course the SR was a touch bigger and heavier----the PPS just felt like a lifeless top heavy brick---ths SR felt great dispite having twice the ammo load of the PPS---the barrel sits lower and the grip just snuggles up in your hand.
Other deciding factors were the 1911 style safety and American made. Price wasn't a factor to me--I just wanted the better gun--a big plus was the Ruger was $150 cheaper.
The SR compares quite closely to my G19 in size and has 2 more shots(17+1).
I've removed the magazine disconnect---but haven't shot it yet.
So anyway---through all that I guess I'm saying you should take a good hard look at the SR9.
BlindJustice
April 15, 2009, 02:18 PM
CZs - various options.
Often overlooked the S&W 908 single stack or
the Double stack 910 - black matte finish model
succeeded the CS9 and Ladysmith aka LS9 which
were compact versions of the 3913.
Randall
MisterMike
April 15, 2009, 03:26 PM
I'll first note my pro-Glock bias, with a personal favorite being my Glock 26. I think it may be the appropriate gun for your GF, primarily because of the fact that she's proficient with the 17. Real self-defense situations are high-stress and the last thing you'd want her to be thinking is "Now, how is this different from my Glock?" With a very, very experienced shooter this may not be a consideration. For most of us, it's critical. When problem-solving abilities go out the window under stress, muscle memory takes over.
As for the concerns about carrying a Glock in a purse, I'll just reiterate what others have said--it's never a good idea to carry a gun loose in one's pocket or purse. It's unsafe and increases the likelihood that the gun will be out of position when you need it most.
Now, if she's not as concerned about the whole concept of identical operation to the gun she's already familiar with, I'd say that I rather fancy the Kahr PM-9 or CW-9 as very well-made, good-shooting pistols that are light and compact. Overall, though, I think the G26 is the right answer for her, given what you've told us.
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