Is New Jersey capable of pulling off what California just did?


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SodaPop
October 12, 2003, 07:55 AM
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Mark Tyson
October 12, 2003, 08:04 AM
I think the economy would have to really go down the toilet for NJ to recall its governor, even if that's allowed by state law. We still don't know what good if any Arnold will do for California.

Chris Rhines
October 12, 2003, 08:29 AM
You mean electing an anti-gun numbskull to the Governor's office? Sure, why not? :confused:

Oh, you mean recalling the governor. Hmmm. Let me ask my cousin, he's visiting from NJ.

He says that there may be enough dissatisfaction with corrupt NJ politics for something like the California recall to happen. But neither of us know if there is even a recall procedure in place in NJ, much less what it would take.

- Chris

geekWithA.45
October 12, 2003, 08:30 AM
Elections are coming up, and most of the assembly is up for grabs.

With the exception of the 5 pro gun guys, it's time for G.R.I.P (Get Rid of Incumbent Politicians)


The other thing NJ voters has to do is to investigate the county level Dem and Rep clubs, who exclusively control who gets on the ballots.....

That's the belly of the beast, I'm not sure what to do about that though...

PeteyPete
October 12, 2003, 08:47 AM
I don't think NJ can constitutionally recall their governer...but i have no doubts that a significant signature getting campaign would be underway if we could.

However, the republican party of NJ is just as corrupt as the dems. I'm convinced that nepotism, graft, and political malfeasance is the norm here in the garden state. There are very few differences between politicians of the two parties here in NJ. Both spend at will, hate guns, and offer little in the way of real reform. NJ is truely a politicians wet dream....A very rich state, w/ high taxes, and almost limitless gov't revenues. Even w/ these conditions, the spenders in Trenton have managed to spend us into a deficit.

We have some good guys, Scott Garrett...Bret Schundler. Schundler would've made a great governer, but McGreedy creamed him after scaring the pussies here in NJ w/ commercials saying: "Bret Schundler actually wants MORE guns on our streets, and wants criminals to carry them concealed!?!" (Said in incredulous tone). Oh well, i'm getting out of this POS state ASAP anyway.

Old Fuff
October 12, 2003, 08:58 AM
It should be noted that only two governors (including Gary Davis in California) have ever been recalled. At best it is not an easy process, and it’s not met too be. A much more practical way is to vote one out of office, but this would be very difficult too do in those states that are dominated by one of the two major political parties.

Unfortunately states like California and New Jersey have large, urban populations filled with liberals (they like to call themselves “progressives”) and residents who are supposedly economically disadvantaged and see government as a sugar daddy. At election time they are opposed by those who are more self-sufficient and politically conservative who live in rural areas. As the urban areas are more densely populated they tend to be the “tail that wags the dog.”

If gun owners (including hunters and clay bird busters) were willing to vote as a block they might reduce the Democrats to shambles - but so far this hasn’t happened.

Anyway those who live in the Oppressed Areas of the Peoples’ Republics might look at the last governor’s election in Maryland for inspiration. Yes, it can be done. Even to one of Teddy’s kin in a supposedly super-liberal state. But understand, you’ll have to work hard at it. This is no easy task to assign to “someone else.”

AnklePocket
October 12, 2003, 02:38 PM
It won't happen in New Jersey even though McGreevey has some of the lowest approval ratings of all time. I personally think that it's our duty to live with whoever we vote into office. The problem with New Jersey is that good, pure intentioned people are discouraged to run for office. If you're serious about change then step forward in some manner even if it's a PTA position and get involved. Once enough good people get involved, even if it's just coaching Little League, change may slowly occur.
It's safe to say that New Jersey is moderately hopeless if McGreevey does get re-elected. Bret Schundler is outstanding on the real issues of New Jersey and he really needs to be the next Governor. Real and positive change will be rapidly accelerated under Schundler's leadership and the entire nation needs to support that. New Jersey is part of the entire country and infections do have a way of spreading.
http://www.schundler.org

WT
October 12, 2003, 07:23 PM
Article I of the NJ Constitution permits a recall after serving 1 year in office. If the governor leaves the President of the Senate takes over.

Some may remember when Christie Whitman quit being NJ governess to head up the EPA. Sen. Di Francesco took over as acting governor until the next election.

Nathaniel Firethorn
October 12, 2003, 08:35 PM
Remember, you're talking about New Jersey here. The constitution means whatever the Democratic Party machine says it means. Anyone who says different is likely to wake up snuggling with their horse's severed head.

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