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Bruce H
October 12, 2003, 02:31 PM
Missouri faces double-barreled reality with new concealed-gun law

By KEN NEWTON
kenn@npgco.com


The Old West meets the new jurisprudence in Missouri. It’s the double-barreled reality of packing a piece and drafting a legal brief.
We wait to find out if the pen is mightier than the Glock.

Last month, the Missouri General Assembly got its swagger on by overriding Gov. Bob Holden’s veto of a concealed-weapons law. Returning fire, the governor last week moved to enact administrative rules barring weapons from state property.

And at week’s end, with the new law set to go into effect Saturday, a circuit judge delayed its implementation, beseeching a higher court to determine its constitutionality.

When Warren Zevon wrote the song “Lawyers, Guns and Money,” he might have envisioned this.

In a time when meager revenues squeeze the state budget like a boa, political opponents in Jefferson City find less range for scrapping over money matters. The concealed-weapons measure gives partisans a way to metastasize their rancor.

Never mind that Missouri voters beat back a similar measure in a statewide ballot just four years ago.

Why ignore the will of the people? Well, chances are they just didn’t know what was good for them.

Or maybe they’re indifferent. Consider that our state senator, Charlie Shields, represents Buchanan and Platte counties. In April 1999, residents of those two counties opposed the concealed-weapons measure by a majority of 5,419 votes.

Despite the clear intent of these constituents, Mr. Shields voted last month to make a similar measure the law of Missouri.

Yet people don’t seem especially worked up about this betrayal. Distracted by state job losses, maybe they feel the arming of more Missourians carries a sort of retro appeal.

In any case, legislators thought to rewrite Section 571.030 of Missouri’s revised statutes with an eye at keeping public places from becoming firing ranges. The exemptions go on for pages.

Unless with specific consent, you can’t take concealed weapons to a police station. Nor to a correctional facility or within 25 feet of a polling place on any election day.

Concealed weapons won’t be allowed in courthouses, from juvenile hearings all the way up to the Supreme Court. Colleges and grade schools and high schools can keep concealed weapons away from their students, and so can child-care facilities.

You can take a concealed gun into church only with the consent of the minister. It might give scriptural arguments a new dynamic.

A person can’t conceal a weapon in a bar, though a person can in a bar and grill. If the place gets “at least 51 percent of its gross annual income” from the sale of food, it’s open season.

In a nice legislative touch, residents can’t conceal weapons at a city council meeting, though council members with the proper permits can carry weapons. Talk about an unfair fight.

Any sports arena with seating of 5,000 or more is off-limits for concealed weapons. In its festival-seating configuration, Civic Arena holds 5,000. For basketball, it holds 3,800. Not sure what to do with that math, but Phil Welch Stadium seems a safe place to go armed.

Private-property owners can post their premises as off-limits to concealed firearms with signs of at least 11 by 14 inches.

Mr. Holden said Thursday he wants to ban concealed weapons at Little League parks, where emotions often run high.

I note the exemptions don’t include newspaper offices, where emotions also run high on occasion, often with less rationality than heard at Little League games.

(Note to human-resources department: Please look into those signs.)


Looks like poor old pants wetting Ken is in for a hard life. He must fly off the handle quite often and doesn't want anyone to take exception to his brilliance.

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Enigma345
October 12, 2003, 03:52 PM
As a student in good ol' St. Joseph Missouri I can tell you that hearing this kind of message is not rare. The population isn't very well informed about the issue at all and is fueled by the comments of our governer about how a CCW law will cause huge problems and blood in the streets. I cringe reading the Newspress in the morning especially with the "it's your call section" where people anonymously call in and get various rants full of incorrect information published. The sad part is, the uninformed callers aren't much worse than many writers of the paper.

(Been a lurker for a while and this thread seemed to give me a good excuse to join the forum. I'll have to thank my brother who is a poster here for dropping me the link quite a while ago.)

Baba Louie
October 12, 2003, 05:20 PM
Enigma345,

Welcome to THR sir (I assume male gender, please correct me if I err).

When I was a young burro, my father took me to St. Joe to visit a man who had one of the best private collections of firearms I have ever seen (and I've seen a few). Makes me wonder what has happened to the good people of MO to make them stop thinking for themselves and the need to be shown (Show Me State and all) that all the government and media say is truthful. Somewhere along the way some of them have been led astray by those who wield power and influence. (Hasn't it always been that way?)

At any rate, newspapers (and TV news) exist to sell advertising space and make money for the owners, Politicians are there to vote their constituients conscience (er, that is what a Republican form of government is, isn't it?) or is it to further the party line? (Promises were made, Deals were set, handshakes and winks exchanged)

We'll have to let time and politically appointed Judges make the final call, but it doesn't sound like Concealed Carry will survive the political morass that MO politics have been known for.

Here's to hoping.

And welcome again Enigma. Post often and early.

Adios

Standing Wolf
October 12, 2003, 09:11 PM
The Old West meets the new jurisprudence in Missouri. It’s the double-barreled reality of packing a piece and drafting a legal brief.

50% witty.

Mark Tyson
October 12, 2003, 09:17 PM
I don't understand why some people are so horrified about law abiding people carrying guns. The criminals already carry them, obviously. We draw our police from the ranks of law abiding citizens. Most people aren't criminals. Good guys outnumber bad guys. But I'm rambling.

BowStreetRunner
October 12, 2003, 10:59 PM
up to early august i was still a resident of the burg of St. Joseph and was assailed by the mundane stupidity of the News Press every morning
on the weekends the coming of the Kansas City Red Star did little to improve the situation
i have met ken newton and i think his column is one of the better ones in the paper but i agree he is scared here
maybe he needs to live in a concealed carry state for a while and see that it works, then he might sing a different tune
BSR

Thunderstick
October 12, 2003, 11:10 PM
I think the gov needs to keep his yapper shut and suck it up. His veto was overridden. Now, he wants to scare off everybody by saying the state is not safe with ccw.

Too bad we don't have the recall law.

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