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DAVIDSDIVAD
April 16, 2009, 08:39 PM
Well, I've always heard arguments saying A.) "Always carry spare mags in mag holsters, ALWAYS!" B.)" Meh, who cares if you carry the magazine in your pocket, a piece of lint isn't going to make a difference."

and C.) "Either way is fine."



Well, I was always a fan of C.).

Most of the time I would use my single mag carrier to carry a spare mag, and any other mags would go into the most convenient empty pocket.

It seemed fine for a while, but lately I've noticed a few things:



1.) Sure, a piece of lint isn't going to jam the crap out of your gun, but what about a dime that sneaks its way between the noses of your first two rounds? I had this happen to me while carrying a spare magazine in a pocket. I had no idea that the dime was there, either.


2.) I started to notice that if I walked around long enough, a round might pop out of the magazine, or portrude just enough to prevent insertion of the magazine.


3. most important) I was practicing swift reloads with my mag carriers, and I've gotten pretty quick. I didn't usually practice reloading from a pocket, but today I decided to try it.

Every stinking time I snatched the spare mag out of my pocket, I would end up trying to shove it into the mag well with the bullet noses facing the back-strap of the gun. Every time.

Not only does this add a little extra time to the reload, it forces you to take your eyes off of whatever you're looking at and orient your magazine.
Or maybe the magazine could be possibly wedged into the well if rammed in hard enough.



So, I guess what I'm saying is that I've decided against carrying back up magazines in my pockets, ever.


What say you, THR?

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PT1911
April 16, 2009, 08:45 PM
I think it is better than not carrying one at all...

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 16, 2009, 08:58 PM
That is very true.

Honestly though, with my HBE mag holster I have no reason not to.

You're definitely right, though; if you don't have a mag holster, then you gotta do what you gotta do. :)

PT1911
April 16, 2009, 09:10 PM
I am seriously lacking in the area of holsters... so, I just kind of make due with some comfortable fitting IWB or kydex holsters... when I actually do get some money I will definitely invest in some decent leather though... it obviously makes all the difference in comfort and use when necessary..they will include areas for a spare mag or TWO...

RyanM
April 16, 2009, 09:11 PM
You could have someone make a pocket mag holster. Makes perfect sense if you're pocket carrying the gun.

Hungry Seagull
April 16, 2009, 09:19 PM
Both of my holsters have a specific compartment custom fit to the mags that are spare.

They are tapped twice daily. No worries.

If I ever need to use that many bullets (20 or if you prefer... 32 dollars worth) things are very bad.

geronimo509
April 16, 2009, 09:26 PM
When I pocket carry my gun, say in jeans or shorts, That pocket is completely empty except for the gun(in a Superfly holster). I have no room to put my pocket mag holster in my other jeans pocket. but a small mag will fit with my cell phone and chapstick in weakside pocket. wallet goes in back and money in other back pocket. I reach for my cell phone enough that I constantly check the mag and reposition it.
I think it is better than not carrying one at all...
When I carry on my hip, I always use a mag holster in weak side pocket. and that is normally empty except maybe chapstick.

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 16, 2009, 09:29 PM
Seriously, though, guys, try to do a really fast reload with your pocket magazine.

I think you'll be surprised with the results.

Hungry Seagull
April 16, 2009, 09:34 PM
The smart carry has a pocket right there. The Uncle mike's a little bit slower because of the velcro cord.

Dropping a mag out of the M&P is fast.

Gunfighter123
April 16, 2009, 09:56 PM
A old IPSC trick ---- magnet in the pocket and stick the mag on outside . Or you can use a large paper-clip with magnet and clip it backwards on your belt.

BUT BEST IS A REAL MAG HOLDER -- lots of kinds includeing a "spring steel" type for 1911 mags.


EDIT --- by "paper-clip with magnet " I am talking about those thingamajigs that you stick on your fridge and clip papers to.

eitrheim31
April 16, 2009, 10:37 PM
i figure if i can't stop the the bad guy(s) with my first 10 rounds i'm a dead man anyway

bensdad
April 16, 2009, 10:43 PM
i figure if i can't stop the the bad guy(s) with my first 10 rounds i'm a dead man anyway

The eleventh bad guy is always the worst. I throw a couple mags in my cargo pocket.

Maia007
April 16, 2009, 10:45 PM
For pocket carry of a magazine without the hassles

go here

http://www.ccwsupply.biz/DeSantisPocketMagHolderPAGE.htm

Rockwell1
April 16, 2009, 11:29 PM
I use an 8 dollar magazine pouch from Uncle Mike's looks just like a pocket knife holder

Knightrider03m
April 16, 2009, 11:38 PM
My holster have room for my extra mag.

David E
April 16, 2009, 11:46 PM
If you carry a mag in the pocket, it makes sense to use a pocket mag pouch.

The holsters I've seen that incorporate a mag pouch as part of the holster, how, exactly, are you supposed to withdraw the mag to reload? I've had the "Pager Pal" guy demonstrate a cross-body reach with his left hand that most people wouldn't be able to do. I've seen others reach behind their back to barely grasp it, work it out some before they could firmly withdraw it fully. Still others swap hands, putting the gun in their weak hand while their strong hand goes to the mag then juggle the gun during the reload.

I prefer to keep the spare mag on the belt in a dedicated holder for it. Much quicker, much more sure.

Kind of Blued
April 17, 2009, 12:37 AM
I always carry one in my weak side pocket, and two if the gun is lower in capacity.

I can reload pretty fast from my pocket because the mag(s) is always the ONLY thing in that pocket.

I really wish Comp-Tac would make an M-Tac style dual mag carrier... :(

In fact, I think I'll go e-mail them now!

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 17, 2009, 12:56 AM
Anybody know of a good leather double mag pouch for 1911 mags?

I have a sig sauer polymer dealy that is just too bulky.

Kind of Blued
April 17, 2009, 01:04 AM
Anybody know of a good leather double mag pouch for 1911 mags?

I have a sig sauer polymer dealy that is just too bulky.

I have a Galco OWB model (http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.asp?ProductID=1356&GunID=28) that works pretty well. I really wish somebody would make an IWB-type with a body shield, but the Galco model gets them decently close to the body without any extra bulk considering its an OWB carrier. I actually haven't tried it between the belt and pants as seen in the photo.

dobrzemetal
April 17, 2009, 01:09 AM
I have to ask, why carry a reload? If I have to reload after 9 rounds i'm in bad shape, and I don't plan for scenario where I have to engage multiple targets. I do carry a spare mag in my car with FMJ and load those up when I go hiking but besides that I don't see why to bother with a reload.

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 17, 2009, 01:14 AM
For me, I can't see the future, and the first magazine can always fail.

GRIZ22
April 17, 2009, 01:24 AM
A few bucks buys a nylon web knife pouch at Wal Mart. Different sizes for diffrent magazines from 380 to double column 45 aCP.

ScareyH22A
April 17, 2009, 03:43 AM
I practice reloading a mag from my pocket. In the beginning I've stuck the mag in backwards a lot but with a little practice, I haven't had that problem.

REDEYE
April 17, 2009, 10:02 AM
I don't carry and extra mag, but would like to. I just don't have an extra mag to carry. When I get one, I'll carry it in a pocket.

MK11
April 17, 2009, 11:14 AM
Like the man said, I carry a reload more out of concern for malfunction (and who knows what may happen--there's a startling number of videos showing people accidentally ejecting their own magazine in the middle of a gunfight).

Besides, another mag is so easy to carry--especially a single stack--why not? That's like not buckling your seat belt. You probably won't need it but it's so easy, why not?

-v-
April 17, 2009, 11:31 AM
I think 15-20 rounds is ideal carry load for a defensive handgun, since I am not planning to get into protracted firefights, and said gun is there to give me an opening to escape, not play rambo :p. That said, when I carry my CZ, I keep a spare mag in my weak-side pocket wedged up against the back of my wallet, bullets forward. Keeps it very tight and secure, thus it works for me quite well as an improvised magazine carrier, and does not add any extra bulk or equipment.

TimM
April 17, 2009, 11:35 AM
Anybody know of a good leather double mag pouch for 1911 mags?

Nice 1911 magazine pouches here --> http://www.imageseek.com/hbeleather/gallery/belt_mag?page=3

I am actually looking for a horizontal mag pouch for my double stack CZ 75B Compact magazine. Anyone have an idea where I might be able to find one?

Trempel
April 17, 2009, 12:16 PM
I have to ask, why carry a reload? If I have to reload after 9 rounds i'm in bad shape, and I don't plan for scenario where I have to engage multiple targets. I do carry a spare mag in my car with FMJ and load those up when I go hiking but besides that I don't see why to bother with a reload.
Then why carry a gun at all?

You're right, if you NEED to reload after your first mag, then you are in bad shape. But you're already in bad shape simply because you're in this predicament. Wouldn't you want to be still in the fight? I'd say that your chances of needing more ammo in a fight are better than your chances of getting into a fight at all, unless you live in Baghdad.

Also, I was trained to do a reload if there's a lull in the fight, because you don't know if someone you just exchanged rounds with might either be coming back (if he ran away), or his buddies are coming to his help. Sitting with an almost empty gun when you might need it again is a bad idea, and if you get yourself into a shooting, I can almost guarantee that you won't know if you fired just two rounds or most of your mag.

Personally, I carry one reload in a mag carrier on my belt, concealed like my pistol. Carrying a mag in a pocket is not comfortable for me, plus I'm too clumsy to fish for a mag in there.

tracman2
April 17, 2009, 12:35 PM
when I carry my amt 400. I pocket two mags..when I carry my sw38., carry two speed strips in pocket... works well..and avoids mag holders

tracman2
April 17, 2009, 12:37 PM
considring hicap 9mm for carry, 17 and 1 trumps t shot revolver and 5 shot AMT

outerlimit
April 17, 2009, 01:15 PM
I think carrying a spare mag is too easy not to do.

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 17, 2009, 01:49 PM
Nice 1911 magazine pouches here --> http://www.imageseek.com/hbeleather/...elt_mag?page=3

I am actually looking for a horizontal mag pouch for my double stack CZ 75B Compact magazine. Anyone have an idea where I might be able to find one?

Preachin to the choir, man. :D


I carry in a COMIII with one of his single mag pouches; great stuff.

I would, but I haven't been able to get ahold of Eric. Granted, I haven't called

David E
April 18, 2009, 02:08 AM
I have to ask, why carry a reload? If I have to reload after 9 rounds i'm in bad shape, and I don't plan for scenario where I have to engage multiple targets.

Guess what, YOU don't get to plan the attack they are making on you !

Tell me, what kind of shape would you be in if you DID have to reload after firing 9 rds and did NOT have a reload? Exactly.

There are many dynamics at play and many reasons why it is prudent to carry a reload, regardless of capacity. One is to clear a death jam, etc.

The best reason is, following an encounter as Jeff Cooper put it, "It's poor form to go home with a partially loaded gun."

.

Mr.510
April 18, 2009, 03:44 AM
I carry my XD45C with the compact 10 round mag. plus one in the pipe. I carry a 13 round mag in the left vertical thigh pocket of my Carhartt dungarees. The mag is a perfect fit in this pocket, in fact it seems to be made for the purpose! I carry the reload bullets forward and right side up. This puts the tapered end of the double stack mag up so it's easy to grab with my thumb and index finger. It's not as fast as a mag carrier on my belt but with some practice it's really not all that slow and it balances out the tactical light in my right thigh pocket. :D

Odd Job
April 18, 2009, 07:03 AM
In one coures I did, the advice I received for using a pocket mag was as follows:

1) Always put the mag in your pocket the same way. I wear jeans most of the time and the spare goes in my left pocket. Luckily for me the magazine for a Vektor CP1 has a natural lip that catches on the pocket edge, meaning I don't have to fish for the mag, I can grab the base plastic easily. The mag goes in with the rounds pointing away from my midline.

2) Don't put anything else in that pocket (except another mag of course)

3) When drawing the magazine: I get the mag by feel, I don't look down at the mag. While ejecting the empty mag and bringing the new one up to the gun, I work the magazine backward in my left hand so my index finger locates the tip of the first round in the magazine. I simultaneously push back on that round and use that point as an index for insertion into the magazine well.

I agree that proper magazine pouches are better, but if I just need a spare in a jeans pocket, then this works for me.

kd7nqb
April 18, 2009, 12:05 PM
I have always opted to leave the extra mag in the car but I imagine once I get an LCP I will be carrying a second mag, in a beltside holster.

basicblur
April 18, 2009, 12:22 PM
Most of my holsters have a mag pouch built in, but if you just want to toss one in your pocket, something like sandwich bags (in snack size) would at least keep the lint out. 'Course, all the snack size bags I find are pretty weak-you'd have no trouble ripping 'em open-you'll probably have more trouble keeping 'em from ripping? I carry way too much junk in my winter coat, and use the snack bags to keep it somewhat organized.

One step up might be something like this?
http://www.bagmaster.com/website/cart/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=18&cat=Magazine+Pouches+%26+Slings

EHL
April 18, 2009, 02:38 PM
I have some dedicated belt mag holsters that cover the entire mag to make it look like a pocket knife holster. But I would like to start carrying some in my pocket for the occasional grab and go for some of my pocket carry guns. I've seen the desantis pocket mag holster and it looks great, but does anybody have any other alternatives for this? I did a search for some pocket mag holsters and I found very little. Desantis was the only one I could find. Anybody have any suggestions?

AKElroy
April 18, 2009, 03:03 PM
I always carry a spare in the weak side pocket. I turn the pocket inside out before dropping in the mag to shake loose any lint. Never had an issue. Desantis makes a nice pocket mag holder, but it will still be just a likely to attract lint. Your bigger risk will be lint in the firing pin channel for pocket carried CCW's. After a few FTF's, I now do freaquent detail strips of my G27 & keep the channel free of oil.

ScareyH22A
April 18, 2009, 03:24 PM
Wouldn't it be just a pro and con of carrying extra ammo or the inconvenience of carrying a mag on you? Because I've never heard of lint being an issue. Btw, I chose my small pistol not just for the size of the pistol but also the slim magazine. I really don't notice the mag in my pocket. I just realized that the PM9 mag is exactly as thick as a standard Sharpie marker.

Gelgoog
April 18, 2009, 03:45 PM
If you don't carry a reload, I at least hope you carry a knife.

Eightball
April 18, 2009, 04:09 PM
What say you, THR?Don't always trust what you read on the internet, and decide wisely if your life is worth the extra cash a mag carrier would cost.

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 18, 2009, 05:04 PM
LOL, I don't know how we got onto the topic of lint, as I dismissed it in the first post.

Guess Eightball is right on some counts.

searcher451
April 18, 2009, 06:28 PM
While I'm not concerned about lint in my pocket and what it might or might not do to a free-floating mag (I tend to clean out my pockets and also clean my pants from time to time), I carry an extra mag in a mag carrier on my belt. It's a matter of comfort and ease of accessibility for me.

Zach S
April 19, 2009, 12:01 AM
1) If there is a spare mag in my pocket, there is only a spare mag in my pocket.

2) Never had that problem with 1911 mags. I could see a double stack mag getting spun around because its a little more square, but I wouldn't pocket carry a double-stack mag anyway. Its uncomfortable.

3) I'm actually pretty quick when reloading from my pocket. I practice a lot though. Never had a mag get turned around on me, however I did try to stuff a 1911 mag in a glock once...

bigfatdave
April 19, 2009, 10:54 PM
Why not use a knife pouch?
That's the plan for my PPS, I salvaged the pouch from a Gerber multitool (the pouches are tougher than Gerber's crummy tool steel) and it holds spare magazines nicely.

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 19, 2009, 11:00 PM
All of these knife pouch suggestions really have me thinking.

Good idea guys!


I'm probably gonna try my hand at making a mag holder soon. I'll post about it

kyo
April 19, 2009, 11:57 PM
i keep a single stack 45 mag in my pocket when I carry. Sometimes I forget its there. there is a little pocket in front of your jeans for change. I can put in the mag or the change in there. Not both at the same time though.

Clifford
April 20, 2009, 12:17 AM
I use a Ernie Hill IWB holster for my compact 1911 or a Uncle Mikes pocket holster for my Mustang. I have to admit that I just throw a spare mag in my weak side rear pocket. I personally haven't had any issue with lint or rounds moving out of place carrying that way thou I understand how that could be an issue.

Some of you auto guys are saying that one mag should be enough to fix whatever problem you are facing have to remember one thing. Magazines fail from time to time. Me personally, if I have a FTF or any other issue with my gun when I need it, well the first thing I'm gonna do is dump the mag and slam my spare in. I think that may be the best plan to get the gun back into action.

dobrzemetal
April 20, 2009, 01:18 AM
Well, Ill try and make my shots count :). Anyways, I understand what some of you are saying, but I usually check my hardware and when do you stop with the reloads? I mean if one mag is not enough than 2 is? and what if 2 is not enough? You know what I mean? But I can't criticize you guys for being prepared, however, i'm just going to have to rely my 1 mag and maybe make it to my car if I have to reload. But man, that would SUCK!!!!!!

I hope the zombies dont attack when im out to din with the girlfriend :eek:

Ben86
April 20, 2009, 10:19 AM
I have personally been considering this for a while. I am trying to decide whether I should go with a clip on single, horizontal mag pouch or pocket carrier.

I definitely think that a holster is the way to to. It keeps the magazine orientated correctly, keeps lint and other objects out of it and keeps it from falling out of your pocket. You give your gun a holster why not your extra magazine? What's a gun without a magazine?

DAVIDSDIVAD
April 22, 2009, 06:59 PM
I've always wanted a horizontal magazine holster, but the only ones I've seen are those bulky cop things

Big Daddy Grim
April 22, 2009, 07:14 PM
I always have at least one extra mag. Took a class with the off duty officer that stopped the troly square shooting in Utah and he said he would have killed for more rounds that if the police would not have gotten there when they did he did not know cuz he only had a couple rounds left.

David E
April 23, 2009, 12:41 AM
The horizontal carriers take up quite a bit of belt space.

Since I also carry a flashlight and leatherman on the belt, I don't have the space to spare.

Aside from that, they're difficult to withdraw the mag from with any degree of speed or stress.

Kayback
April 23, 2009, 03:39 AM
I usually use a mag pouch, but sometimes it just gets tossed in a pocket. My weak side back pocket. Nothing else ever goes in there.

I generally carry my Glock 26 with 12+1 and my spare mag is a 19 round mag. Why not?

Pocket carrying a mag is easier than pocket carrying a gun.

IMHO it gives you the ability to reload, and more importantly, if something goes wrong with the mag in the gun, you can switch it out.

What are the chances the mag in the gun will fail? Low. But why take that risk?

KBK

MisterMike
April 23, 2009, 09:04 AM
I don't always carry a spare mag. I suppose it all comes down to what you feel is an appropriate level of preparedness. Yes, I could have a magazine malfunction and, yes, I could encounter a situation where I'd need more than 14 rounds, but I feel like I'm far better prepared than most. What I would urge though, is that if you do carry an extra magazine in your pocket, you can find pocket magazine holsters pretty inexpensively. That way you can always be assured that your magazine will be oriented the same way and will be free from gunk.

gimlet1/21
April 23, 2009, 09:07 PM
I use a nylon buck knife sheath on the weak side. Only a very observant individual would notice the clipped knife on my strong side pocket, and wonder why I'm carrying two knifes.

KBintheSLC
April 24, 2009, 06:01 PM
Im a "C" guy... as long as that pocket is empty of all other objects besides the mag. I pull out the pocket first and smack out as much lint and dust as possible. Then I toss the mag in there. No issues yet.

Johnny Guest
April 24, 2009, 11:50 PM
I've used this product for several years, for Commander and Hi-Power mags. Very convenient, reasonably priced, and needs no more (or less) concealment than any belt holster.


Safariland Model CD clip-on mag holder (http://www.safariland.com/product.aspx?pid=CD-Auto)

Hostile Amish
April 25, 2009, 12:26 AM
I don't carry an extra mag most of the time, since I have a Glock 19 with 20 rounds (19 + 1 floorplate) and an additional round in the chamber. I'd rather save some weight. 21 rounds seems sufficient.

Gunfighter123
April 25, 2009, 12:24 PM
Johnny Quest,

Those are the "spring-like" mag holders I was talking about !!!

Long ago , I used them for IPSC/IDPA and they were fast to use and NEVER had a mag fall out during movement on a COF.

chuckusaret
April 25, 2009, 12:51 PM
Wow, If I would need more than 10 rounds I don't think another magazine would be of any use. I only took two bandoleers (240 rounds) with me on patrol in Vietnam

Drail
April 25, 2009, 01:40 PM
Carry a gun or a mag in a pocket also containing small objects is as Jeff Cooper loved to say..A Very Bad Idea.

Gunfighter123
April 25, 2009, 02:45 PM
Wow, If I would need more than 10 rounds I don't think another magazine would be of any use. I only took two bandoleers (240 rounds) with me on patrol in Vietnam

Hiya Chuck,
I see you didn't take "just one clip" when you were in Nam. I am just saying that if "you need more then 10 rds. " it would be a life-saver to have another 10 rds. !!

Having said that --- many times I carry a handgun and no spare ammo. BUT ONLY when I am close to home , in a safer neighborhood , local store etc. -----
If I think I MIGHT be in a place where there is a very good chance of useing my gun for SD --- I always carry a extra mag and have a full box {50 rds.} in my car.

bigfatdave
April 25, 2009, 07:40 PM
I don't carry an extra mag most of the time, since I have a Glock 19 with 20 rounds (19 + 1 floorplate) and an additional round in the chamber. I'd rather save some weight. 21 rounds seems sufficient.
21 rounds probably is sufficient ... but isn't the magazine the most common malfunction point on a semi-auto handgun?
There's no backup on the way, I'm leaning towards the single extra magazine, but I admit part of that is my CCW choice is a Walther PPS, so I get 6+1 and a 7 round reload.

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