NationStates - The Game


Chris Rhines
January 17, 2003, 12:57 PM
Not sure if this would be better in L&P, but I'll leave the mods to decide:

There is an online game I've been playing for about a month called NationStates. In it, you create your own country, determine your government, and deal with government-like issues as they come up. It's alot of fun.

You can play here:

My country, Rhinesland, can be gazed upon with awe here:

Come visit Rhinesland if nothing else. We've got everything, biker gangs, free speech, arms manufacturing, widespread deforestation, Harry Potter books, and poverty-stricken beggars. Plus, our national animal is the Human Being. :D

(Warning: The guy who created NationStates, Max Berry, is a pretty left-wing author. It doesn't affect the gameplay much, as there is really no way to win or lose, but I thought I'd let you know and avoid the charges of promoting some commie site. ;))

- Chris

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January 17, 2003, 01:06 PM

Can you have a Army.

January 17, 2003, 01:24 PM
...wouldn't you rather live in the Free Land of Liberissima? :D

Okay, my first Governmental Issue just came up: A massive demonstration of bicyclists clogged the streets of the capital. I was given three choices:
>Pass legislation banning cars.
>Pass legislation banning bikes.
>Pass legislation propping up the auto industry with subsidies.

Where's the button for "Realize that this is none of the government's business. Go home. Have a beer."?

January 17, 2003, 01:47 PM
OK, so are we going to create a THR region? I vote for "The Federation of Rogue Militant States".

Interesting, my first issue was human cloning. I do like that you can "dismiss" issues and think I'll be doing that frequently on things like Tamara describes.

January 17, 2003, 02:03 PM
Ok i'm in:neener:

January 17, 2003, 02:03 PM
I just created one:

The Free Land of Floryston (

January 17, 2003, 02:18 PM
Rouge Nation of Correiastan.

Our national animal is the Flying Hippo.

Our Motto: "In Browning we trust."

Chris Rhines
January 17, 2003, 02:24 PM
I'm thinking that I might be getting a nasty email from Max Berry here soon...

Tamara - If you don't like any of the options given, click on "dismiss issue." Then you just ignore it until it goes away.

AZTOY - Not one you can do anything with. Sorry.

Edit - as an afterthought, if y'all are interested, I'd love to form a THR region. Game?

- Chris

January 17, 2003, 02:31 PM
I'd love to form a THR region. Game?

Go for it i will move there!!:D

January 17, 2003, 02:39 PM
Why the heck not. If you build it they will come.

Does that mean that I can invade you guys? :)

Chris Rhines
January 17, 2003, 03:23 PM
Corriea -

You: 5 million cattle-punchers and soda jerks, well-trained corporate consumers all.
Me: 26 million arms manufacturers and pizza drivers (don't laugh, it's a dangerous job) who are all lean and mean from battling biker gangs.

Sure, why not? :D

- Chris

January 17, 2003, 04:54 PM
Come visit the Republic of Oraculus ( ) ! Come see our barren, inhospitable landscape, and be sure to visit the World of Cheese! Fun for the whole family!

David Park
January 17, 2003, 08:45 PM
I notice The High Road region has been created by someone:

My country of Arms Manufacturers and Beef-Based Agriculture is the newest member:

January 17, 2003, 08:45 PM
Check out The Free Republic of Gunwald and The Confederacy of Houlton. I'm a complete capitalist stooge.

January 17, 2003, 10:30 PM
I just joined, formed The Dominion of Boondock. I think I just sold my automobile industry down the river. Oh well.

January 17, 2003, 10:36 PM
The Kingdom of Ballistite (

January 17, 2003, 10:41 PM
Ok The Empire of Arivaca is location in The highroad

January 18, 2003, 01:45 AM
The Rogue Nation of Koch is up and running!

I must say, if you poke around on their forum much you will find some pretty disturbed and disturbing individuals lurking around. I think the THR region might be a bit of fun for some time, but I wouldn't want to spend too much time over there. Much more pleasant and a lot less scary over here....

January 18, 2003, 01:48 AM
The Grand Duchy of Phenwick has joined

January 18, 2003, 02:04 AM
Here's mine!

January 18, 2003, 08:00 AM
Yah. This is a little slanted, all right.

In The Federation of Hartholm ( , my first issue was "Social Inequality Reaching Embarrassing Levels".

The Issue: Commentators have warned that Hartholm's social inequalities threaten to make it an international pariah.

My choices were:

1. "Look, I don't like it either," said Chamber of Commerce spokesperson Pete Jefferson. "Just on the way here, I had to step over three homeless people, and one of my shoes got caught on a beggar. But inequality is the price we pay for economic strength. If anything, we need fewer taxes, so those of us who are well-off can afford to be more generous. If we want to, that is."

2. "I think we've forgotten what economic strength is all about," says social worker Miranda Dredd. "The economy is meant to be a means to a high standard of living, not an end in itself. It's become an excuse for the rich to prosper while the poor fall through the cracks. Not everyone is poor because they don't feel like working. We must provide more welfare."

3. "Who says we're an international pariah?" demands military honcho Anne-Marie Love. "What are their names? If that's the way the international community feels, we obviously need to prepare for war."

Heh. I chose to lower taxes to support the evil rich. Homeless be damned. I'm such a bastard.

However, after I chose that, it told me that my economy was thriving, my civil rights were excellent, and political freedoms were very good. *shrug*

January 18, 2003, 10:21 AM
Coincidentally, my nation's motto ("Mind your own business and keep your hands to yourself") is also its entire legal code. ;)

January 18, 2003, 12:17 PM
The Nation of Jummey has just been created.

January 18, 2003, 08:00 PM
I set up a nation (the Free Republic of Zundfolge) but either I screwed up or there is something clearly wrong with the software because the nation is the opposite of how I answered the questions.

I entered responses that are clearly in line with a Laissez Faire Free Market Libertarian state and it built me a communist dictatorship :scrutiny:

January 18, 2003, 09:36 PM
I don't think you have to worry, I tried to find your nation and got this.Uh-oh
Nation Not Found: "Free Republic of Zundfolge"

Use your browser's BACK button to return and fix this.

January 18, 2003, 09:46 PM
weird ... here it is

But you know the creater of the game is a Communist when ...

UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Private enterprise is illegal
describe the same country


If anyone wants to take it over, the login is "Zundfolge" and the password is "steyr"

January 18, 2003, 10:09 PM
Civil Rights: Excellent Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Excellent
You did better than I did when it comes to the three big ones.

January 18, 2003, 10:11 PM
If anyone wants to take it over, the login is "Zundfolge" and the password is "steyr"
You shouldn't open yourself to invasion like that.;)

January 18, 2003, 10:27 PM
I invaded and moved him to THR. Password is the same, but the currency is cooler.:cool:

January 18, 2003, 10:31 PM
Perhaps you should vaccinate those porcupines while you're changing things.;)

January 18, 2003, 10:43 PM
Crime is crippling.


January 18, 2003, 10:44 PM
Oh, FWIW, only type in the specific name of your nation, not the type of govt. it has, i.e., "Zundfolge", not United Socialist States of Zundfolge, to find it.

John G
January 18, 2003, 10:54 PM
I love this.

Republic of Necronomiconia

"Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!"

"Crime is a problem.
Necronomiconia's national animal is
the mad blind god with a thousand young,
which frolics freely in the nation's many
lush forests, and its currency is the human soul."

January 18, 2003, 11:00 PM
What? The Rogue Nation of Tactical Skunks is a Left-Wing Utopia?!?!?! I demand a recount!

John G
January 18, 2003, 11:10 PM
Can we quit the United Nations in this game? If so, I vote THL pulls out quick.

January 18, 2003, 11:13 PM
We're not in the UN. You have to join first. The only THR member to join has pulled out.

January 18, 2003, 11:49 PM
The Empire of Arivaca

Well i have the link for the UN in my e-mail .I can join again if you guys want me too. :neener:

January 18, 2003, 11:58 PM

How about we get all 16,000 TFL'ers to join Nationstates and hijack UN policy?

Brian Maffei
January 19, 2003, 12:12 AM
If look you at the United Nations section, under UN Proposals, there are a few Gun/Weapon Control resolutions.:scrutiny:

John G
January 19, 2003, 12:29 AM
Here's one of those UN proposals:

"We propose a BAN on selling guns and other weapons to all citizens.
To many "accidents" happen when the "wrong people" get their hands on guns or knives.
Children forinstance, don't know the danger and are very likely to hurt themselves or people close to them if they happen to find dads gun lying around.
The Pro's don't weigh against the Con's
Therefor we propose a BAN on selling Guns and other weapons to private citizens."

They want to ban selling guns and KNIVES. What the hell?

Of course, they say nothing about giving guns away.

January 19, 2003, 12:31 AM
Who is going to create a Molonlabeistan? :D

John G
January 19, 2003, 12:41 AM
Ineresting. There's an "Abolition of the UN" proposal. It only needs another 113 votes to pass...

January 19, 2003, 12:49 AM
If we can get 113+ members in the THR region, then I'd be for all joining the UN to abolish it.

I'd bet Comrade Barry would find a reason not to, though.

January 19, 2003, 12:57 AM
UN voting Ends: Sat Jan 18 2003 For the gun and weapon proposals.

So no new gun laws:neener:

January 19, 2003, 02:56 AM
No, you need 120 delegates to approve the proposal. Then it would have to be voted on.

January 19, 2003, 11:35 PM
Description of Jennifer Government from Max Barry's website:

Welcome to paradise! The world is run by American corporations (except for a few deluded holdouts like the French); taxes are illegal; employees take the last names of the companies they work for; the Police and the NRA are publicly-traded security firms; and the U.S. government only investigates crimes it can bill for.


Max Barry is an Australian who pretended to sell high-end computer systems for Hewlett-Packard while secretly writing his first novel Syrup. In fact, he still has the laptop he wrote it on because HP forgot to ask for it back, but keep that to yourself. He put an extra X in his name for Syrup because it seemed like a funny joke about marketing, failing to realize everyone would assume he was a pretentious a**hole. He was born March 18, 1973 and lives in Melbourne, Australia, where he writes full-time, the advantage being that he can do it while wearing only boxer shorts.


Max Barry lives in a country run (into the ground) by socialists like himself. He sucked as a salesman because he loathes the idea that companies actually charge for their products and make a profit, rather than giving it away and allowing their employees to screw off writing the Great Australian Novel (which they expect to be paid for, though). He "five-fingered" the computer and no one noticed. He put an extra "X" in his name because he IS a pretentious a**hole and it would go well with his assorted tattoos, piercings, leather underwear, etc. while working at the local Starbucks after being canned by HP for not doing his job. He is 30 years old and lives with and sponges off his girlfriend while living in Melbourne, where he writes "full-time" when not working at Starbucks, playing "Quake," or downloading internet porn.

January 19, 2003, 11:41 PM
Yeah, I just created another nation, The Ubited Socialiast Stares of Utopian Blissninnies ( I thought it matched his politics pretty well. :evil:

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