Neck Knife Recommendations Requested


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DFW1911
April 17, 2009, 06:33 PM
Howdy Y'all,

I'm looking at purchasing a neck knife (it will be my first) and three models have made the short list.

The knife will be in my SD continuum; I'm CHL and always carry a folder in my pocket. I'd also like a knife that can be handy for everyday tasks when needed, so it's not strictly limited to SD/PD.

Budget wise I'd like to be below $200, but am flexible.

I don't know much about metallurgy or knife making, so any information will be helpful (if something is prone to rust, holds and edge well vs. needs to be sharpened all the time, is "brittle" etc.) or may be associated with other problems I'm not even thinking of.

Here's the three I'm looking at:

1. The Boker Nealy
2. The Buck Mayo Kaala
3. The Becker (KaBar) Necker (has a bottle opener built into the handle...have to love that!)

All of the above are about the right overall and blade length(s).

A. Any opinions on the above will be greatly appreciated.
B. If I'm missing a great choice on my list, please let me know.
C. There are SO many online vendors, I really don't know who's good, who's not, and who to avoid. I'm willing to pay a bit more for good service.

Thanks in advance for your help and sharing your knowledge.

Take care,
DFW1911

PS: I'd really like to support anyone who runs a small business, either a smaller retail shop or a custom maker (especially if a forum member); again, if service is good.

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bikerdoc
April 17, 2009, 08:37 PM
My vote is for the Becker necker.
And im sure Todd A will show up soon to endorse this choice also.

captainamerica
April 17, 2009, 08:59 PM
The Buck Kaala has got my attention. I'm considering one if I don't go ahead and just get a Griptilian 551 or a Leek for pocket carry.

Todd A
April 17, 2009, 09:52 PM
And im sure Todd A will show up soon to endorse this choice also.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm99/toddma/100_0720.jpg


Great knife.

(if something is prone to rust, holds and edge well vs. needs to be sharpened all the time, is "brittle" etc.)

The BK11 is carbon but has a protective coating (which I removed on mine) so rust won't be a problem. Some rust might form on the uncoated edge, but will come off with use or sharpening.

It is flat ground and will easily take a hair popping edge. And hold it very well.

It ain't brittle.;)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm99/toddma/100_0577.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm99/toddma/100_0583.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm99/toddma/100_0588.jpg


I've pounded quite hard on mine.

DFW1911
April 17, 2009, 10:57 PM
Thanks, all.

Todd...is that the Necker cutting through a LOG????

If so, I'd say that should serve my purposes :D

Thanks,
DFW1911

Todd A
April 17, 2009, 11:03 PM
Yep. Use it like a splitting wedge and hit it with a stick.:)

(I don't normally do this)

When I know I am going out overnight I bring a camp ax. But it is nice to know what a knife is able to do in a pinch.

And Mr Becker himself uses his in the same way.:)

hso
April 17, 2009, 11:23 PM
I don't know Mayo, and Bud may have gone to UT a "few" years before I attended, but we're only acquainted, OTOH Ethan's a buddy of mine and KaBar did a great job with a fine design with the Necker. It's also is far below $200.

Yep, Becker Necker.

Searcher1970
April 18, 2009, 12:06 AM
Contact Eric Draven, he's a member here and a custom maker. I've had a few of his knives and his work is top notch. Heres his profile.

http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=68316

DFW1911
April 18, 2009, 11:57 AM
Thanks for the help, all. I think I'm going to give the Necker a try.

I have an eerie sense that I may have stumbled onto yet another potentially-expensive item to collect.

Guns, watches, "gear in general"...now knives? Where / when will it end :)?

Searcher1970
April 18, 2009, 01:10 PM
It never ends..lol

ceadermtnboy
April 18, 2009, 08:05 PM
If you can wait 17 months try Charles May. Web site Charles May Knives. He has a neck nife made out of S30V complete with Kydex sheath for right at 200.00 including freight. He makes some first class Knives. I have one with red kydex on order. Only 7-8 months more to wait.

captainamerica
April 18, 2009, 09:47 PM
Anybody have "The Snitch" from Randall King?

JTW Jr.
April 19, 2009, 10:39 AM
its made by King , but is a Jim Burke design , and its a small one.

Never cared much for neck knives , hate having stuff around my neck.... though I do own a few..

a few of these make great neckers...
http://members.cox.net/jt.vegas/july6.jpg

Snitch is the bottom row , second one in from the right.

The BM Snody is a nice hideout necker , as it the Strider ED , and the Alan Folt Baby Bear , the Simonich Crowfoot is a bit on the heavy side for a necker , but I have worn it that way a few times.

JShirley
April 19, 2009, 03:36 PM
While I wouldn't want to do any actual fighting with any neck knife, I've thought the Krein Dogfish (http://newgraham.com/store/product/3567/Krein-Dogfish-Neck-Knife-PE-CRKT2370/)is a neat little gadget.

John

captainamerica
April 19, 2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks for the comparison pic that includes the snitch. I've just bought one so when it gets here I'll probably start wearing it around my neck some. It's not for every day but there are times I want something with me without having more space taken in my pockets. If this one doesn't fit the bill b/c it's to small I'll get the Kaala, Becker Necker, or maybe a Camillus Arclite.

hso
April 19, 2009, 09:28 PM
Anybody have "The Snitch" from Randall King?

Yep, got the scar from one to prove it. Tiny little bloodthirsty thing!

Much like Rob getting bitten by his little Bitter Root at Blade, this thing didn't have a lot of pressure behind it, but I needed Dermabond to close me back up again.

I'd consider the itty bitty neckers like the Bitter Root and Snitch to be a 2 finger knife and suitable for light scalpel-likework (no batoning here).

A bigger knife like the Becker Necker can serve in a much more robust role (as seen in the pictures above).

Todd A
April 20, 2009, 07:01 AM
I'd consider the itty bitty neckers like the Bitter Root and Snitch to be a 2 finger knife and suitable for light scalpel-likework (no batoning here).

Ditto. The other necker (which is my pocket carry) in my photo is an amazing little knife as well. But won't see hard use. It is great for precise work.The BK11 takes on the tough stuff.

JK Handmade Knives Mini-Nessmuck

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm99/toddma/100_0709.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm99/toddma/100_0697.jpg

GoodKat
April 21, 2009, 01:55 AM
Hide away knife:
http://www.hideawayknife.com/utilityhak.php

Aka Zero
April 21, 2009, 09:44 AM
I put another vote on a Becker, But on the heavy side, but it's got a good sheath, and a great edge. Around $35, which keeps it way under your price range.

Also did a weave through para cording on mine that turned out nice, no neck carry but I figured out a nice dual use lanyard system for belt or in pocket carry. May get around to posting pictures, after I get around to taking them.

TimboKhan
April 21, 2009, 09:52 AM
I don't know much about neck knives, but from just looking around and listening to people who do know such things, the Becker Necker seems to be the knife of choice. Personally, I am interested in a push dagger for a neck knife, but can't bring myself to buy one because I don't want to feel like a mall ninja, lol....

CWL
April 21, 2009, 01:41 PM
Don't forget Fred Perrin's La Griffe. Probably don't want to chop a log with it, but better designed as a SD back-up.

Todd A
April 21, 2009, 04:53 PM
Maybe....but the OP did say for everyday tasks more so than SD.

As to better design I concede slashing ability to the La Griffe.

However a shaving sharp 3.25" clip point blade is nothing to sneeze at in an SD role.:)

And it cuts and splits logs.:D;)

CWL
April 21, 2009, 05:18 PM
Maybe....but the OP did say for everyday tasks more so than SD.

That's not what DFW1911 posted. This is what DFW posted:

The knife will be in my SD continuum; I'm CHL and always carry a folder in my pocket. I'd also like a knife that can be handy for everyday tasks when needed, so it's not strictly limited to SD/PD.

Playing with knives is fun, but if you ever have to baton logs with a neck knife, you need to re-evaluate your gear.

mfcmb
April 21, 2009, 06:17 PM
I highly recommend the hideaway knife with the utility blade as a neck knife. Excellent self defense knife, acceptable daily use knife (I mean opening packages, etc., not cutting logs). Very hideable.

http://www.hideawayknife.com/utilityhak.php

dairycreek
April 21, 2009, 06:43 PM
http://www.knifeworks.com/productimages/benchmade/bm10536bp.jpg

My Benchmade Instigator. Inexpensive, incredibly sharp. very rugged.

Leadhead
April 21, 2009, 07:15 PM
While it's not really a "neck" knife...and it's alot more money then the Necker.... the Chris Reave Professional Soldier looks like a real handy knife!
I'd love to check one out in hand...
http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/reeve/images/prosol.jpg

Todd A
April 21, 2009, 07:35 PM
but if you ever have to baton logs with a neck knife, you need to re-evaluate your gear.

Don't think so. The BK11 is designed for such use.From Mr Ethan Becker himself.....in response to a post I made in his forum

"I use a BK11 to baton small stuff every morning during the fire building season (after a fuzz stick or two) and there have been no probs after years of using the Camillus version for this purpose and the Ka-Bar made blade is sturdier and has a more forgiving heat treat !!!....Using a club and a NECKER to
cut notches and cut to length saplings and branches is one of the things I designed the piece to do...."


Maybe you feel a need to carry a large "chopper" into the woods on every trip. I don't.

I am confident in my gear.You are confident in yours.I am comfortable with a 3" fixed, by your statement you are not.

Differant strokes, but don't imply that I am not capable of choosing sturdy gear that fits my needs.

Quilbilly
April 23, 2009, 07:35 AM
I have been looking at it for sometime. Would love some feedback it you end up getting it.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
April 23, 2009, 09:26 AM
I sometimes carry, and like very much the "Sig-Tac Pit Bull"

http://www.impactguns.com/store/STG01P.html

hso
April 23, 2009, 09:54 AM
Just for everyone's information, the Sigtac Pitbull is made by Timberline and is the same knife as the Timberline Lightfoot Mini-Pitbull. Instead of Impactguns' $40 price you can find both knives for $20 to $25 on the net.

Gun companies don't make knives, Glock being an exception. HK and Sig knives are almost always existing models from a knife manufacturer that has the gun company's logo on them. Sometimes different colors are used and sometimes, but very rarely, different materials are used.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
April 23, 2009, 10:49 AM
Thanks, HSO! I'm glad to know that - I had wondered who made these for Sig.

I got it "free" with the purchase of a NIB Sig 220 few years back.

hso
April 23, 2009, 11:03 AM
Several Sigtac knives are made by Timberline and Randal King Knives. Sigtac just has them labeled for them.

nc76
April 23, 2009, 12:12 PM
I have the Crawford Triumph Neck from CRKT.

Mine is the one without the corded wrap. I haven't really used it for anything yet, but it is a neat little knife.

http://crkt.com/neck.html

WardenWolf
April 23, 2009, 01:41 PM
When you first said "neck knife", I thought you were asking for a kukri. Kukris are sometimes referred to as "neck knives", due to the way their curved blade facilitates cutting a neck from behind.

hso
April 23, 2009, 01:49 PM
Kukris are sometimes referred to as "neck knives", due to the way their curved blade facilitates cutting a neck from behind.

Whatcha mean?

WardenWolf
April 23, 2009, 04:10 PM
It stems more from fiction and urban legend than reality. Actual use of a kukri is as a slashing weapon, but its odd design tends to lead the uninformed to believe it was used as an assassin's or executioner's tool in such a way. People aren't familiar with it, and they try to figure out how to use it, and that's one of the more common misnomers.

hso
April 23, 2009, 04:19 PM
I agree, it is pure fiction.

Nepalese Gurkhas simply hack the skull or the back of the neck if the skull is helmeted. Much more certain and quicker than fantasy throat cutting. The blade is designed for chopping and heads and necks of enemies are purported to make excellent targets. This is the same technique Col. Applegate advocated for the Smatchete, another heavy chopping blade.

Joe Demko
April 25, 2009, 09:00 AM
The AG Russell Hunter's Scalpel is a tiny and very useful neck knife. I've had one for several years. Anything one might do with a small pocket knife, one can do with the Scalpel except have it close on your fingers.

Joe Demko
April 25, 2009, 09:35 PM
I hate all of you. This thread forced me to buy one of those Beckers.

Todd A
April 26, 2009, 12:49 PM
Hey!!!! You can't blame us for not being able to resist the siren call of the Becker Necker.:D

With the sole purpose of knife testing in mind, I gave my BK11 another workout.;)

I can report that the cap lifter does indeed work.:)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm99/toddma/100_0732.jpg

JTW Jr.
April 26, 2009, 02:56 PM
Simonich Crowfoot works great with a Merc-Harness...

http://www.simonichknives.com/images/crowfoot01.jpg

Arno Bernard also make some economically priced custom neckers.

Tomahawk
April 26, 2009, 04:36 PM
How about the RAT Izula or the Cold Steel Spike? I really like them both.

gripper
April 26, 2009, 05:53 PM
I tend to favor the Cold Steel (Scimitar) Spike for my own daily carry.The G4 is lighter,but the rubber grip prints onsom eclothing...the Double Agent ( Kerambit type blade) looks useful,but the fingerholes mean you are NOT going to change grips if you have to deploy it in a hurry( the draw puts it in a point-forward grip,in case any reverse grip afficionados were wondering)

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