what can you tell me about this (intersting) little beauty?


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PT1911
April 17, 2009, 10:46 PM
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Gamera
April 17, 2009, 10:48 PM
I can tell you that it's a very strange looking firearm.

Huddog
April 17, 2009, 10:49 PM
Sorry PT, I have never seen, heard or read anything about it but it is different.

Huddog
April 17, 2009, 10:54 PM
Just for fun I Goggled it and there is a lot of information on line.

sadp40
April 17, 2009, 11:04 PM
i had one a really liked it.

30 rounds of .22magnum like a poor mans FN 5.7

only problem mine had was it broke extractors pretty regular.

i saw one at mobile shooting center the other day for 350.00

thats a great price today.

designed by george kelgren of kel-tec fame

they also built a carbine version.

nalioth
April 17, 2009, 11:04 PM
I see nothing.

Can you paste a direct link to the image(s), please?

PT1911
April 17, 2009, 11:15 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=96429&d=1240019187

It is a Grendel P 30

PT1911
April 17, 2009, 11:39 PM
it is most definitely an intersting gun.. 30 rounds of 22 magnum.. both original magazines and the original box.. nifty muzzle break.. Buck Rogers gun... any opinions?

ambidextrous1
April 17, 2009, 11:50 PM
I remember those from the early 1990s (I think). I was very much into the
.22 magnum at that time, but the California laws rather quickly made them illegal, so I didn't get to own one. I fired one at the range once, and was impressed.

MedWheeler
April 18, 2009, 12:03 AM
I have a P-10, purchased in 1989, I think. It's a .380ACP pistol that holds ten rounds in an internal (read: non-removable) magazine. That makes for a ten-rounder hardly bigger than many .25s and .32ACPs of the time. Took some finishing to get it to work, but it does, and is one of several loaded pieces stashed within my house.
Grendel is the predecessor to the Kel-Tec line, both by the same designer.. can't remember his first name, but the last is Kelgren, I think.
Like that one, there were some others that came out. The P-12 was a version of mine that had a traditional removable magazine, though not a ten-rounder. And, of course, the P-30 you see there.

Jim K
April 18, 2009, 12:54 AM
Based on the numbers made, those should be collectible, but they do not have a lot of value, going for about $300 or so, new in the box.

The usual Grendel "quality" so it may or may not work.

Jim

PT1911
April 18, 2009, 02:56 AM
no more info from the gun gurus of THR?

nalioth
April 18, 2009, 04:49 AM
no more info from the gun gurus of THR? No picture for some of us.

Linky, please?

PT1911
April 18, 2009, 01:08 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=96429&d=1240019187

that is interesting... wonder why it isnt showing for some... I dunno.. well, here is a link to the picture as well.

rcmodel
April 18, 2009, 02:36 PM
Grendell was owned by George Kelgren.

That company failed, and he later started Kel-Tec, with a bunch of better & more successful gun designs.

rc

nalioth
April 18, 2009, 04:27 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=96429&d=1240019187

that is interesting... wonder why it isnt showing for some... I dunno.. well, here is a link to the picture as well.

Thanks, but it takes me to a "You do not have permission to access this page."

Mods?

WardenWolf
April 18, 2009, 04:56 PM
It looks like the love child of a pistol and a cordless drill. Damn that thing is ugly. Oh well, I'm sure it's still good for troubleshooting problems in the shop. :neener:

rcmodel
April 18, 2009, 05:10 PM
Could be what this red-neck was using to drill for satellite cable TV. :D

http://www.kctv5.com/news/15698864/detail.html

Sorry, but it's so sad it's funny!

rc

Ron James
April 18, 2009, 07:02 PM
If you check the parts forums, every one is looking for parts for these guns. That should tell you something.

PT1911
April 18, 2009, 08:25 PM
lol... it isnt anything I plan on shooting much or using at all really... more of a conversation piece than anything else... It is an interesting gun to shoot though. I guess I could sell it.. I have actually seen them sold for rediculous prices.... especially the mags, the prices for them are crazy...

Big Daddy Grim
April 18, 2009, 08:28 PM
It almost looked like one of grendels training pistols but a .22mag nice.

JohnBT
April 18, 2009, 08:28 PM
A buddy of mine bought a used one a few years ago and it worked fine. Of course burning through boxes of .22 WMR is expensive, but it worked just fine.

I've heard over the years that of lot of them didn't work too well.

Anyway, as it turned out, he'd paid about what the gun was worth, but ended up with 3 or 4 mags and sold it all for double his money after a few months. I think it's the only deal he's made money on in 30 years. :)

What are the mags selling for these days - $100? More?

John

PT1911
April 18, 2009, 08:31 PM
cheapest i found were $75 each....

janobles14
April 24, 2009, 12:39 AM
if new and under 150 bucks i would grab it and keep it for the hope of eventual "C&R" (or just collectiblity for its own sake). those are getting harder and harder to find.

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