New Springfield M1 Garand!


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.45FMJoe
October 12, 2003, 10:23 PM
Wow, awesome rifle. Stock is great, action is fairly smooth. Thing is a tackdriver. Incredibly fun to shoot. If only .30-06 ammo wasn't so expensive. :)

So far I love it. However, I have one question. In the Springfield manual, it says NOT to field strip/dissasemble the rifle, as it could degrade the fit of the parts and make a less accurate gun. Am I missing something? This is a battle rifle. What the hell? Anyone know what the deal is?

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.45FMJoe
October 12, 2003, 10:24 PM
oops, and for a pic.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=539437

echo3mike
October 13, 2003, 04:10 AM
Removing the barrelled action from the stock of an M1/M14 type rifle can alter the rifles' POI, especially when the action has been bedded.

There are many proponants of just cleaning the bore (while the rifle is inverted) and scrubbing the bolt only, with a major field strip or full detail cleaning once every few hundred / thousand rounds.

S.

Jmurman
October 13, 2003, 05:58 AM
If only .30-06 ammo wasn't so expensive


Time to save up for a reloader! Nice looking weapon. What are new Springfields going for these days?

Jhaislet
October 13, 2003, 07:29 AM
Last I saw, they were around $1000.
I think I'll stick with CMP M1's for now. Heck, if I had $1000 for a new rifle, I'd save up a couple hundred more and get a new SA M1A "Loaded".
30-06 is a great round, but .308 rifles are so much cheaper to feed :D

VG
October 13, 2003, 07:34 AM
Many M1 shooters release the trigger guard for storage to relieve the pressure on the wood. But where their rifles are 50 years old and have collector stocks that could be worth $150 to $600 by themselves, and where your rifle has a commercial Boyd's stock you can replace for $60, I wouldn't sweat it.

It is pretty common for the first few shots of the day to go low, at least on my rifles. And the first round out of a clip to be low, forget the explanation.

It's more important to make sure you don't mess up the muzzle crown when cleaning the bore. I use the Otis cable system to pull it through from the chamber. It's fast. I asl use Sweet's 7.62 which seems to do a good job on copper.

Most people clean with the rifle upside down so solvent won't get in the gas ports.

Does this one have the cast Lithgow receiver, or is it one of the early ones with the forged Breda receiver? I saw one of the latter, it had the Danish crown on it, nice rifle.

Jhaislet
October 13, 2003, 07:46 AM
I've been wanting to try the Otis system. I currently have a nice selection of Dewey rods for the long guns, but having something more portable and quicker to use is tempting.

how does Sweets 7.62 work with the Otis system? Has it started disolving/erroding any of the Otis pieces?

VG
October 13, 2003, 07:48 AM
no

MuzzleBlast
October 13, 2003, 09:12 AM
You can get cheap .30-'06; it just isn't as plentiful as it once was. There is a lot of ammo made in Korea on Garand clips being imported these days:
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/index.htm Haven't tried any myself.

.45FMJoe
October 13, 2003, 10:46 AM
No kidding, that is a good deal. And only $21 to ship two cans worth. I shot some of that Korean stuff. My only gripe is the barrel seemed to be FILTHY. Like 13-14 swabs were black type filthy. Maybe that's the nature of .30-06, I don't know. This is only my 3rd rifle. My others ar .22 and .223.

B27
October 13, 2003, 11:50 AM
The Danish M2 already on clips has not produced any kind of mess like that in my barrel. www.ammoman.com
I got in just under the wire to avoid the price going up on these awhile back-

http://www.fototime.com/8D4863B06B523C9/standard.jpg

How's the trigger on yours, .45FMJoe? Mine compares very favorably to the trigger on my National Match M-1, but of course it does not produce the same kind of groups.
Have fun! :)

.45FMJoe
October 13, 2003, 12:27 PM
The trigger is beautiful. No creep, breaks clean. Gun is acurat as a mofro too! Very happy with my purchase.

Big price difference between the Korean and Danish stuff! :banghead:

Hmm, what to do. What to do.

45R
October 13, 2003, 01:42 PM
Hmm, what to do. What to do.

:) Get the one chambered in .308 :)

larryw
October 13, 2003, 03:13 PM
A friend shoots the Korean stuff out of his Garand: picked up a case at the gun show. On a good day, he gets 6" groups at 50 yards with the ammo. Saw him last Friday, his comment was, "Only 100 rounds of that <bleeping> <bleep> Korean stuff left." He's asked me to teach him reloading, so there is a silver lining there.

If you're not going to field strip the gun, at least unlatch the trigger guard when stored so the wood doesn't compress. But if you don't field strip it, how are you going to clean out the gas system every 3-500 rounds? Sounds fishy to me.

Steve in PA
October 13, 2003, 04:16 PM
For $1,000.00 I could get TWO CMP M1s :)

Reload......you'll save $$$$$.......and shoot more!!!

This target is from this weekends trip to the range.

geojap
October 13, 2003, 05:06 PM
That's a really nice rifle there. Congratulations. There's nothing quite like an M1.

I have a Dane Service Grade from the CMP (1953 Springfield). No VAR barrel, but the bore is in very good condition. It has a national match op-rod. I can get 1" groups all day at 50 yards with South Korean ammo. It's one helluva shooter. My other M1, a 1942 Springfield, will not shoot quite as well, maybe 3 inch groups at 50 yards. I need to have it reworked, I think.

I think a match trigger does wonders for these rifles. I find the standard USGI trigger too klunky and it can really throw your shot off if you're not careful.

Futo Inu
October 13, 2003, 10:40 PM
Very nice - I envy you.

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