first knife (WIP) WARNING LOTS OF PICTURES


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kirklandkie
April 18, 2009, 10:08 PM
ok, i previously posted asking for some advice on knife making and said i would follow it up with my first knife. i haven't yet installed any hardware for the handle but i was sure to get pictures as i went along making the knife itself.
enjoy:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5605/1001756z.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3359/1001757r.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4248/1001758j.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4264/1001759.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8207/1001760m.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2315/1001761e.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9521/1001762o.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8915/1001763v.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1107/1001764q.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5738/1001765y.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3989/1001766b.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8032/1001800e.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6110/1001804r.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9585/1001805.jpg
i plan to use some old maple flooring i have to make the handle with a small brass rivit
:D

-kirk
EDITED to turn large pictures into links

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shevrock
April 19, 2009, 11:42 AM
from what i can see it's awesome. Pictures are HUGE though.

TMM
April 19, 2009, 12:04 PM
looks good! when you heat treat it, keep in mind that files are very high in carbon, and will be brittle if tempered too hard.
my other critique is, depending on what you intend this knife to be used for, the edge bevel may be too blunt. a thick edge will produce a rugged edge that will withstand abuse, but it probably won't cut as finely as a more narrowly beveled blade.
on the other hand, this is your first knife, which is looking better than many of the knives i've made. so, be proud of your accomplishment. you're only gonna get better.

tmm

kirklandkie
April 19, 2009, 01:59 PM
thanks everyone, i'll go ahead and try to make the pictures smaller now so it doesn't take up such massive space

-kirk

7X57chilmau
April 20, 2009, 02:13 PM
Nice start! I agree about the possibility of thinning the edge... Looks pretty stout in the pics, I wouldn't want to try to process game with it.... But I'd trust it to kill a car door!

J

kirklandkie
April 20, 2009, 02:27 PM
lol nice 7X57, i'll take it to the grinding wheel again to thin it out, it's nice and sharp now but you all have a point...
i'll post a picture or two when i thin it out

-kirk

Macmac
April 20, 2009, 10:32 PM
I am on a 56 k mo dumb.... if you like select the best and most recent pic so i can see it.

I saw a paper pattern, a maker on a file and a fuzzy looking blade trying to guess what was the finished product.. I did so by selction at random...

If there was a smooth finish I missed it, and would say you need to hand file to get there..

As to hardening you must first harden to glass hard, where in the steel will be so hard if you drop it on a cement floor it will shatter just like glass.

There is no way around that step if you plan to make a knife.

Then you will "draw" or temper which is 2 words for the same thing, which will soften the steel somewhat so it will be a knife and will not shatter..

There are a number of methods, but these all begin with glass hard, untill you have a working feel for what's what anyway.

That will depend on how you controll heat to harden, and how again you controll heat to temper.

kirklandkie
April 20, 2009, 10:45 PM
macmanc, try the very last link that's the "finished" picture

-kirk

Macmac
April 21, 2009, 12:33 PM
Thanks..... The picture numbers you created are at a random and I really did try thinking the 27's might be last...

If I were you I would use a marker and create a line from the false edge back to where your guard is.


Then taper that alot and hand file to finish.

Other wise you have a throwing knife as is.

Also you need to build and fit the maple scales and rivets with out hammering them which happens after heat treating.

Don't go getting in a hurry. If you do you end up being sorry about it later.

Il'd say you are 1/4er of the way there... over all....

Refine what you have, make the grips, guards and rivets. Drill the tang.

Test fit and refine all of it more.

I am assuming you want a knife and not a toy thrower....

Even a toy thrower needs to be hardened first and tempered... You take the tempering to a lot higher temprature, about Spring steel heat, apx 600 - 660 degrees F...

To me the term toy is for things you will throw and probably break someday. My throwing knives and hawks for throwing are toys to me too, so it isn't any insult.

I don't really know where you are going with this project either.

If I knew that better I could point out better advice, which you could determine if the trouble and bother are valid to you.

If this is a thrower then you want bark tan leather scales apx 1/4" think on each side.

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