Do they make a cartridge-firing Walker?


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Dr. Fresh
April 19, 2009, 05:33 AM
I'm in love with the shape of the Walker Colt, but I'm not ready to get into black powder shooting. Does anyone make a version that fires .45 Colt or .44 Special?

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RyanM
April 19, 2009, 05:53 AM
Not as delivered from the factory, but there are conversion cylinders.

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Accessories/ConvCyl-WALK-U.htm

And because putting the cylinder in a BP gun constitutes "manufacturing" a firearm, there's no paperwork whatsoever. You buy the BP gun (a non-firearm), then you buy the cylinder (a non-firearm) seperately, then put two and two together. As long as you never sell the gun in that configuration, there's no serial number or other requirements, either. And as long as you're good to own firearms, you can manufacture as many as you want for personal use.

Dr. Fresh
April 19, 2009, 05:59 AM
That's pretty dang sweet.

Is it something I would need to have a gunsmith do? I'm no good at working on guns. I cut the crap out of my finger last time I cleaned my SKS, lol.

barneyrw
April 19, 2009, 12:57 PM
<<"Do they make a cartridge-firing Walker?">>

Yeah, it's called the S&W Model 29. (-:

RyanM
April 19, 2009, 01:03 PM
Is it something I would need to have a gunsmith do? I'm no good at working on guns. I cut the crap out of my finger last time I cleaned my SKS, lol.

Sometimes conversion cylinders may need tweaking to make them line up with the barrel properly. The black powder forum would probably be a better place to ask about whether you could get a cylinder that just drops in with no gunsmithing.

Rebel Dave
April 19, 2009, 01:08 PM
Most of the time the cylinders to convert over to cartridge, are not a drop in deal. It would most likely have to be fitted, and tuned to your revolver, in other words, "tweaked to work properly in your Gun". If you don't want to do this yourself, a gunsmith would have to do it.

Also Walker's Are black powder guns, that means the conversion cylinders, are to fire "blackpowder cartridges only". Hope this helps.

Rebel Dave

HOME DEPOT GEORGE
April 19, 2009, 02:03 PM
Not walkers but Uberti has these http://www.uberti.com/firearms/army_navy_conversion_and_open_top.php

Dr. Fresh
April 19, 2009, 08:44 PM
You can't fire smokeless cartridges through them?

nalioth
April 19, 2009, 09:11 PM
Is it something I would need to have a gunsmith do? If you do that, then he'd be the manufacturer and have to stamp his name and address and a serial number on it, than have you fill out a 4473 to pick it up. Since a lot of gunsmiths don't have manufacturing FFLs, he'd probably not want to do that.

Good luck with your search.

Jim K
April 19, 2009, 11:18 PM
"...in love with the shape of the Walker Colt..."

Having fired a few, I am sure not in love with the weight.

Jim

Dr. Fresh
April 19, 2009, 11:26 PM
Hmmm..

It's starting to sound like I might be better off with a factory cartridge conversion '51 or the like.

Jim K
April 19, 2009, 11:30 PM
If you are considering going to a cartridge conversion of a '51 Navy type, why not just go to a SA gun like the Vaquero in .357 and shoot .38 Specials in it? Same basic feel, but a modern gun with good factory support.

Jim

Dr. Fresh
April 20, 2009, 01:47 AM
Because I love the look of open-top Colts. Don't get me wrong, the SAA is a great-looking revolver, too.

nalioth
April 20, 2009, 02:05 AM
Because I love the look of open-top Colts.

Uberti Colt 1851 Navy conversion in .38 Special

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3203/ea281b47cb711da418c35b0.jpg (http://tinyurl.com/cv3r9b)Clicks (but make sure your wife isn't looking)

Dr. Fresh
April 20, 2009, 04:41 AM
That's a beautiful revolver. I'd take one with an 8'' barrel.

madcratebuilder
April 20, 2009, 08:15 AM
You can get cartridge conversions for a Uberti or Colt Walker. It is generally a drop in conversion. Some minor fitting of the bolt or hand may be required. You can shoot smokeless powder loads. The cylinder manufacturer well tell you the limits of the smokeless loads.

You well find much more info in the black powder section of the board.

Dr. Fresh
April 21, 2009, 05:36 PM
You don't think those guys will get mad for ruining the purity of a BP firearm? LOL

nalioth
April 21, 2009, 05:44 PM
You don't think those guys will get mad for ruining the purity of a BP firearm? LOL What!? You mean you weren't gonna load your own black powder cartridges to use in it?

Dr. Fresh
April 21, 2009, 06:17 PM
What!? You mean you weren't gonna load your own black powder cartridges to use in it?

Haha! Nope. I wouldn't know where to start, and I have no equipment. Sounds fun though.

Jubjub
April 21, 2009, 11:02 PM
I have an uncle who shoots a pair of the Cimmaron Richards-Mason conversion replicas, in .44 Colt. The original frame would be from the 1860 Army. The current version of the cartridge is something like a .44 Russian with a smaller rim. Standard .429 bullets, mild loads. Starline makes brass.

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