Anzio Ironworks 20mm Bolt Action Rifle


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10/22plinker
April 19, 2009, 05:27 PM
I stumbled across this interesting gun (http://www.anzioironworks.com/20MM-TAKE-DOWN-RIFLE.htm) on gunbroker.com and was interested if someone that owns one could maybe post pictures or videos of a range trip with the gun and maybe some interesting info. Thank you.


p.s. what caught my eye about the gun was it's size; it dwarfed, repeat dwarfed the Barret M82A1:what:

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Jaws
April 19, 2009, 05:31 PM
By millitary standards 20mm is a cannon not a rifle anymore.:D

WardenWolf
April 19, 2009, 05:33 PM
Aren't those things considered destructive devices? I believe the ammo used is explosive?

jto2009usmc
April 19, 2009, 05:42 PM
well.. It is an ANTI - TANK rifle.

desidog
April 19, 2009, 06:03 PM
so would each round have a $200 ATF surcharge? before cost and shipping? ouch.

gvnwst
April 19, 2009, 06:05 PM
Aren't those things considered destructive devices? I believe the ammo used is explosive?


A DD, yes. Explosive ammo, illegal. Anzio sells civie legal 20mm ammo IIRC, or you can get the thing in .50/20mm (12.7mm/20mm) a shortened 20 necked down. That means it is no longer a DD, and yoju can use all the bullets for the .50 BMG for it.


p.s. what caught my eye about the gun was it's size; it dwarfed, repeat dwarfed the Barret M82A1:what:
Well, you just need to see it in person now, the thing dwarfes ME!:D it is huge..... (and heavy, i couldn't pick it up off the table...:uhoh:)

so would each round have a $200 ATF surcharge? before cost and shipping? ouch.
no. Commen myth. The GUN is the DD, not the ammo.

HOME DEPOT GEORGE
April 19, 2009, 07:41 PM
link http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=127157993

10/22plinker
April 19, 2009, 09:46 PM
By the way what does this thing weigh... I mean if it's bigger than an M82A1 then if I would give an estimate I would say at least 50lb. maybe more. Lets make a dare fire the anzio from the standing position (shouldered not resting on a tripod or other object that could take the weight off your arms) sorry had to put that part in my uncle has a knack for finding loopholes

gvnwst
April 19, 2009, 09:47 PM
Ummmmm.....if you can hold this thing up, feel free to fire it offhand. It weighs ONLY 110 pounds. Really.:D

10/22plinker
April 19, 2009, 10:51 PM
Lets hire one of those guys in the muscle magazines that look like there on steroids

Strakele
April 19, 2009, 11:03 PM
Way too big, way too heavy, way too expensive, completely impractical.

I want one sooo bad.

MatthewVanitas
April 20, 2009, 01:41 AM
no. Commen myth. The GUN is the DD, not the ammo.

It's not a "myth" that some types of ammo have a per-round $200 stamp requirement.

Rounds carrying more than X amount of explosive material (40mm HE grenades, mortar rounds, rockets, etc) are NFA items in their own right and require a stamp. As I understand it, the very, very few people with legal access to HE grenades and mortar rounds just register as DD dealers rather than pay all the individual stamps.

However, so long as you're firing non-explosive projectiles in the 20mm Anzio, the projectiles aren't DD, just the rifle. Not sure if an explosive 20mm round has enough explosive material to be a DD on its own, but if so it would need a $200 stamp per round. Otherwise not.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
April 20, 2009, 02:08 AM
Way too big, way too heavy, way too expensive, completely impractical.

I want one sooo bad.

ThisiswhatI'msayin!

Coal Dragger
April 20, 2009, 03:00 AM
The only things that could make that rifle anymore perfect would be figuring out a way to make it burn coal, also maybe add a sling made from baby seal skins, stitched with white rhino hair, and a grip made from the ivory of a sperm whale. Then put it all in a fine case made from redwood trees, upholstered in leather made from rare mountain gorilla hide.

Then it could be the most politically incorrect object ever created. Perfection. I want one, badly.

HK G3
April 20, 2009, 03:21 AM
Can you reload 20mm?

50 BMG is the largest press that I've ever heard of...

I want that bullpup 20mm from South Africa... whenever I have an extra $10k that I don't feel particularly attached to :p

Wes Janson
April 20, 2009, 10:23 AM
The Anzio is certainly fun to fire, it must be said. With the suppressor on it, you really wouldn't believe how quiet and tame that cannon really is. No kick to speak of either..

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
April 20, 2009, 10:25 AM
I'll be the first to say it ".50 BMG is for SISSIES!!!" :p :D

aka108
April 20, 2009, 10:36 AM
Is it California legal?

CoRoMo
April 20, 2009, 12:35 PM
It is an adequate elk round, but for larger ungulates like moose, you will need to mind your shot placement for a clean kill.

cratti
April 20, 2009, 12:41 PM
Regarding the question about the ammo requiring $200 tax/round, they sell "training" and tracer ammo on the Anzio Ironworks site.

Acera
April 20, 2009, 01:40 PM
$10 a rounds on the site listed in the Gunbroker ad.

Gordon
April 20, 2009, 01:46 PM
Having had a 20 mm Lahti when I was 18 and shot maybe 50 rounds of the 100 I had before I sold it to a Cuban "freedom fighter", I'll stick to 14.5 Russian as the biggest "rifle" I want.
http://www.marstar.ca/PTRD-41.htm

elmerfudd
April 20, 2009, 03:08 PM
I've been looking for a good squirrel rifle, but I think that might be a little too heavy out in the field. I'll probably just go with a Windrunner instead.

LoneCoon
April 20, 2009, 03:26 PM
I've been looking for a good squirrel rifle

For shooting squirrels or for shooting squirrels as ammunition?

C-grunt
April 20, 2009, 04:44 PM
Gunstore by my house has one. Heres it in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ZZ5GCHpAs

Gaiudo
April 20, 2009, 05:48 PM
That last video gives a whole new clarity to "small arms". That 20mm is in a class all by itself.

W.E.G.
April 20, 2009, 11:04 PM
I'll see your 20mm single-shot, and raise you a 30mm gatling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iz5MwPsfyo

C-grunt
April 21, 2009, 05:58 AM
I raise you 120 mm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbAIQOrDmnw

Acera
April 21, 2009, 03:25 PM
To get this back on topic, well somewhat.

I was interested in the rounds for this gun. Anzio sells the for $10 each, but with a minimum order of 100. So if you want some, it's $1K to get started.

I sometimes collect ammo that is unusual and hard to find, but this one will have to wait for a little while.

10/22plinker
May 1, 2009, 04:06 PM
hmmmm... maybe we should keep this gun on the down low before Obama finds out it exists...

Acera
May 1, 2009, 04:20 PM
10/22plinker

hmmmm... maybe we should keep this gun on the down low before Obama finds out it exists...

Oh, I am sure he would tolerate this gun because he gets to run an extensive check on your background, knows where to come get it from you, allows the ATF put you on one of their lists, and plus you get to give his government $200 for the privilege of owning it, for the stamp and whatever they got for the manufacturing fee.

Maverick223
May 1, 2009, 05:58 PM
I have to second the 14.5mm Russian...seems like the ultimate ultra long range round.

irishsquid
May 1, 2009, 06:40 PM
Ammo is a problem. I don't think my range allows depleted uranium tipped rounds.

gvnwst
May 1, 2009, 06:47 PM
I have to second the 14.5mm Russian...seems like the ultimate ultra long range round.

Theortically, the best BCs you are going to get is in the biggest projectile. So, a 20mm, if you had the roughly the same velocitys, will have better BC, and so will fly longer/better. 30mm, even better, of course by that time you are talking about mounted AM things. (i can't call them rifles :D)

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