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chadintex
October 13, 2003, 05:21 PM
Often times I have heard people question whether or not CHL info comes up on a police squad car computer thingy(technical term) or not.
It does.
The other night I was returning from the airport unarmed when I was pulled over and asked to ID. In Texas, it is not required to show CHL if unarmed, so I did not do so. Minutes later the officer returns to ask me if I were armed. I replied that I just got off of a plane and was not. He says" you really should let us know that you have a CHL, so we know". I believe that his implication was "you shoulda told me you were a good guy to save both of us time". I apologized for not doing so.

I know that I was speeding, did not have a current insurance card, and have expired registration. I gave good reason for each count and was told to have a good night without being ticketed. I doubt that the treatment would have been the same without my CHL, but that is my opinion.

So, now you know.

Dallas Police Dept. by the way.

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kbr80
October 13, 2003, 06:03 PM
Yes it does come up on a routine 28/29 check. Here in Arkansas we are required to give the officer our permit with drivers license whenever asked by an officer for identification. I recently had to get a backgroung check, done by the Arkansas State Police, for job related duties. I knew the lady doing the check and she let me stand right there as she ran my info on ACIC/NCIC, right after my name, address and such was, in big bold letters:

CONCEALED HANDGUN PERMIT.

Standing Wolf
October 13, 2003, 08:28 PM
How long before the cop who pulls me over for having a broken tail light knows how much I owe which Visa card and whether I've paid my electric bill on time?

King
October 13, 2003, 08:33 PM
Here in Texas, they can indeed see that you are a CHL holder right there in there little ol' police car. I would advise that I was a license holder up front even if I wasn't packing and it's not required to do so (when unarmed). The reason? The officer may think that you are hiding something or up to no good. Most of the time, I think they would appreciate it and make the stop go easier for everyone.

C.R.Sam
October 13, 2003, 10:32 PM
In AZ cop in car knows.

Possible complication....car owned by CCW holder is borrowed by non CCW holder. Could get some interesting conversation goin.

Sam

El Tejon
October 13, 2003, 11:25 PM
Sam I Am, or a gosh darn tourist from the East!:D

"Do you have any guns or knives in the vehicle, Mr. Tejon?"

"[Eastern accent] yeah, shorrre, buddee. Whacha need, eh?"

:D

Zundfolge
October 13, 2003, 11:34 PM
I would advise that I was a license holder up front even if I wasn't packing and it's not required to do so (when unarmed). The reason? The officer may think that you are hiding something or up to no good.
Actualy I'd hand my CHL to the officer with my license in hopes that it might get me out of the ticket :neener:

tyme
October 14, 2003, 05:33 AM
Does TX DMV know about CWL/CHL licenses in other states? I'm wondering about out-of-state FL licenses in particular... would it show up if the holder's TX DL is run through DMV?

I really find it obnoxious that a $140 RKBA tax often gets the holder out of minor tickets, while any other normal person is more likely to get a ticket. If it wasn't enough of an insult to have to pay to carry, the assumption is then that any reasonably honest citizen doesn't deserve to have law X enforced on him.

(And no, I'm not bitter; I've never gotten a ticket for a moving violation... knock on wood.)

Deepdiver
October 14, 2003, 09:36 AM
Actualy I'd hand my CHL to the officer with my license in hopes that it might get me out of the ticket

I do the same thing, not necessarily to get out of a ticket, but it is an indication as to which side you are on (i.e. "respect for the law" as I interpreted it). At least that was a comment I received from a CO state trooper when I was pulled over a few months ago.

I, too, was returning from the airport, so was unarmed. I had a lot of "turns" (pretty close to flank speed :D ) on the truck. Got pulled over, and I handed my permit along with my license to the trooper. I told him I was unarmed at the same time. In return, I got a "thanks for telling me up front" along with the comment above, and a verbal warning to slow down.:D (which, I did then, and have since, BTW).

pax
October 14, 2003, 10:32 AM
Often times I have heard people question whether or not CHL info comes up on a police squad car computer thingy(technical term) or not.
It does.
Actually, it depends on the state and even upon the locale within the state.

Here in Washington, probably 3/4ths of the counties do not have the CHL database linked in with the DL check. King County does, and a couple of the other ones in that general area, but the rest of the state does not.

So around here, they ain't gonna know unless you tell them, and there's no legal reason to tell them -- no requirement to announce, I mean.

There are lots of practical reasons to tell them, though. :)

pax

manwithoutahome
October 14, 2003, 05:18 PM
Here in Oregon, your drivers license isn't only linked to your CHL but your SSN as well. Found out about the SSN link when I was looking for better insurance and they asked for my SSN. I said I don't give that out and then they asked for my DL#. I gave them that and then they recited my SSN# back to me within seconds :fire: :cuss: So, any Oregonians here, don't give out you DL# either.

In Oregon, you don't have to say if you're armed or not or even give them your CHL. If you are armed, it would be best to hand that with your DL when they ask for your papers.

M

Jeff White
October 14, 2003, 06:21 PM
I'm wondering about out-of-state FL licenses in particular... would it show up if the holder's TX DL is run through DMV?

I don't ever recall getting any CCW information back from a free state when running a DL. I will check Thursday when I work again and see if CCW information is included with DL responses from other states. Many states sned their responses in slightly different formats.

Jeff

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