I've got big hands for the 1911.
DAVIDSDIVAD
April 23, 2009, 11:31 PM
While the rest of the gun fits my hand well, and my snake like index finger always hits the trigger right, it just looks funny curling against the trigger like it does.
Would getting a longer trigger for my 1911 help?
Note: I don't want a longer trigger pull, but literally, a longer trigger.
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usmcpmi
April 24, 2009, 12:10 AM
Sure there are several different longer triggers. Most of which "drop" in. Also try a larger main spring housing and a bevertail. I added all to my Series 70 and have loved it since 1982... BTW I wear XXL gloves only because I can't find XXXL! MG
DAVIDSDIVAD
April 24, 2009, 12:16 AM
LOL, I don't know about XXXL, that, my friend, is humongous. But- my hands are like tarantulas around the grip.
The problem is the funky bend it makes hitting the trigger with that sweet, sweet spot on the index finger.
tunnug
April 24, 2009, 01:01 AM
Have you tried looking for extra thick grips, It'll make it feel like a larger gun and put your fingers further out.
rcmodel
April 24, 2009, 11:07 AM
Look here for long triggers:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/catsearch.aspx?k=1911%20trigger&ps=10&si=True
If you now have a GI style short trigger this will fix your problem.
rc
DAVIDSDIVAD
April 24, 2009, 02:13 PM
Thanks RC
krs
April 24, 2009, 04:04 PM
If you don't already, take up piano and leave pistol shooting to us minions.
You may be Artur Rubinstein reincarnate.
nitetrane98
April 24, 2009, 06:46 PM
"If you don't already, take up piano and leave pistol shooting to us minions.
You may be Artur Rubinstein reincarnate."
At least guitar!!
Signed,
Ol' Stubby Fingers
DAVIDSDIVAD
April 24, 2009, 06:50 PM
Heheheh, sorry guys, percussion's embedded deeeeeeep in my soul.
Drail
April 24, 2009, 08:50 PM
Try to handle some 1911s with different triggers. You want to make sure that your finger falls on it so that you pull it straight back with no pressure on either side of the trigger. A long trigger and thicker grips can help.
jimC2
April 25, 2009, 07:11 AM
A 1911 wide-body fits my hand perfectly and for my other 1911's I found thicker grips help. Haven't tried the wrap-around grips with the finger grooves yet. The slip-on grips from Hogue helped on a couple of my other autos.
DAVIDSDIVAD
April 25, 2009, 10:31 AM
I've installed one of those Pearce grip things that fits under your regular grips.
It feels REALLY good, but I'm still gonna go for the longer trigger.
Riss
April 25, 2009, 11:40 PM
I got a pair of Ahrends grips that seem to be on the thick side. They are also fuller since they are cut for a magwell, which also puts more meat in the grip hand. I have found that a big magwell helps as much as thicker grips do in filling up the hand so it does not feel like I am shooting a little kids gun.
DAVIDSDIVAD
April 26, 2009, 01:49 AM
Well, again, guys, thanks for the grip idea, but I'm not really interested in thicker grips, as my long index finger is the problem.
What I was really wondering if any of the 1911 dudes on here would explain what the difference is between a long and short trigger, and how it effects usage.
Marlin 45 carbine
April 27, 2009, 06:32 PM
I have XXL hands and use the Hogue molded soft grip w/finger grooves, fits me well.
cavman
April 27, 2009, 06:51 PM
There are Grieder triggers that can be dropped in (10'-15' of single stroke sanding with 400 grit paper to make best fit required, maybe 30 strokes or so). I have put the Long trigger into mine, fairly simple. The difference between long, regular and short it the amount of metal "spacer" behind it, the longer has more, the regular and short have less.
In terms of actual length difference it is only about 1/8" from short to regular, and another 1/8" from regular to long.
I was at a shooting clinic this weekend and one of the things that was addressed was Grip. The grip that was being advocated actually exacerbated the issues that I was having; that is, the pistol grip change moved the muzzle further towards the fingers. This made my index finger of course move even farther into the trigger.
However, the results were that the sights now better aligned with my eye. Keep in mind this is for one-handed Bulleye and not two handed, so this change is required. This change is a departure from the "sights lined with the forearm" to the "sights lined with the eye". What a great difference!
For precision shooting ( sorry I don't know about combat) it is recommended to have the bone of the finger on the trigger, not the flesh. Flesh moves and bone does not. So there is less of a contributing influence of the bone than flesh to the trigger when pressure is applied.
As to the OP, the longer trigger (or shorter), allows one to have the best fitting trigger so the finger will best fit the trigger.
If the OP has larger hands than the current trigger is appropriate for, the finger will curl too far over. With a longer trigger, the trigger will protrude out and hopefully will better fit the finger better allowing the finger to touch the trigger in the best position possible.
1911 guy
April 28, 2009, 02:48 AM
Triggers first. The longer triggers are identical to the stock triggers inside the gun. The "long" part is the pad that extends from the front of the trigger hole and into the guard. There are no drop-in parts for a 1911. Many are sold that way, a few will function, but none are truly drop-in. Figure on fitting it yourself or having someone who knows how do it for you. As mentioned, there's about .125" difference between the short and regular, then reg. and long. 1/8 inch may not seem like much, but it is a decent percentage of the existing trigger reach.
Secondly, the grips really will help with large hands. The dimension on the gun that is too short for you is called "trigger reach". Physically, it's measured from the rear of the grip below the slide to the front of the trigger pad. Practically, adding girth or width to the gun increases the distance your hand must span to get from point A to point B, effectively increasing trigger reach.
Think of the empty space between your finger and the pistol when you place your finger on the trigger. Now imagine some of that empty space filled with grip material, placing more of your hand in contact with the pistol. That's called a Good Thing.
If your hands are on the truly large end of things, you may find that both are needed for a good fit of the handgun to your hands. Personally, I'd opt for one thing at a time, beginning with the one you can do the cheapest. Usually that's grips, but not always.
krs
April 28, 2009, 10:25 AM
As someone who's spent a lifetime using with adequate comfort and certain success whatever trigger characteristic installed to a particular firearm I find this entire exchange somewhat silly, peculiar, or just plain odd.
Notwithstanding my regard I have your solution in an easily convertable system of trigger that can result in most any length of pull desired:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=24820&title=INFINITY%20INTERLOCKING%20TRIGGER%20SYSTEM%20TRIGGER%20BASES
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=12597&title=INFINITY%20INTERLOCKING%20TRIGGER%20SYSTEM%20TRIGGER%20INSERTS
1911 guy
April 29, 2009, 01:58 AM
Next time the wife drives your car, you'd better not be adjusting the seat. Just work with existing dimensions.
Don't bother reading the size tags on your next pair of pants, just grab a pair off the rack. I'm sure they'll fit well enough.
Let me guess, you're one of them uppity folks who pays attention to the size of the shoes they buy, too. How silly.
You know, some folks choose to make do. Others change things because they can, a few because they have to. In either case, it's the O.P.s hands, handgun and money.
I find it peculiar, silly and odd that you'd post twice in the same thread with absolutely nothing constructive or worthy of conversation to say.
krs
April 29, 2009, 08:18 AM
Don't bother reading the size tags on your next pair of pants, just grab a pair off the rack. I'm sure they'll fit well enough.
Easy for you to say, you wear skirts instead of pants. :D
DAVIDSDIVAD
April 29, 2009, 04:02 PM
Yeah, there's a good 1911-smith not 2 miles from my parent's house, so if I do get a longer trigger, he'll be doing the trigger-ing.
1911 guy
April 30, 2009, 01:11 PM
See, now you went and hurt my feeling. I'm going to find out where you live and play my pipes on your front lawn at 3:00 a.m. Out of tune. For a long time. Or until you chase me off. :neener:
krs
April 30, 2009, 01:34 PM
As it happens I'm one of the few, or perhaps the only person within 1000 miles who enjoys the pipes if played well. Nevertheless, my dog would have your throat at 3:00 am before you played a single bar. Welcome to try though, I'll enjoy it either way :)
ddog
May 1, 2009, 08:26 PM
use thicker grips
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