Ruger Redhawk Tuning


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Dimis
April 24, 2009, 12:33 AM
who is a good gunsmith to send a ruger redhawk in 45lc to
i want to have the trigger reworked a bit and just tune the whole firearm to as close to perfection as i can

also anyone know a good engraver or anyone doing custom grips for these?

maybe somebody knows a one stop shop for all this and more?

almost forgot anyone have any suggestions on what i should have done other than trigger work?

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harmonic
April 24, 2009, 01:12 AM
I'd break it in first if you haven't already. Couple thousand round?

RugRev
April 24, 2009, 02:49 PM
There are several Ruger gunsmiths. They are:

Hamilton Bowen http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/

Grant Cunningham http://www.grantcunningham.com/

Magnaport http://www.magnaport.com/

Teddy Jacobson http://www.actionsbyt.com/

Cylinder & Slide http://www.cylinder-slide.com/

Clements used to do Ruger double actions but now only does single actions. There is
also Jack Huntington in California.

If you are going to use a speedloader you may want to chamfer the chamber rears to allow
easier cartridge loading. Another thought would be to contour and remove sharp edges from
the trigger. Cosmetically, one might want to add a black powder chamfer to the front of the cylinder. Hamilton Bowen makes replacement front and rear sights with the rear giving a better sight picture and being more robust (if using the Rough Country sight). As to grips if you want wood grips Hogue, Herrett's and Badger offer wood grips and there are a number of aftermarket rubber grips for the gun. One could also jewel the sides of the hammer and trigger.

Probably the best choice for one stop would be Bowen.

In tuning the gun the action can be smoothed considerably but not lightened too much. The Redhawk does not have separate trigger return and main springs but only one that does it all. If lightened too much in single action the gun will not reliably fire in double action.

Dimis
April 24, 2009, 03:20 PM
thanks RugRev thats exactly the info i was looking for i dont need a trigger lightening just smooth it out a bit
why do a blackpowder chamfer on the front of the cylinder? what does this look like exactly? will it hurt accuracy at all?
do you know of anyone that will cut custom grips if i supply the material?

Harmonic thanks for the advice i havent had quite that many rounds threw it yet but ive got a good start say 300 or so

kanook
April 24, 2009, 05:12 PM
if its the single action trigger crap that you are trying to smooth out, make sure the gun is empty, pull the hammer back, push foward as hard as you can with your thumb on the hammer and slowly pull the trigger. do this a couple of times and it will smooth out the pull a little :D

Confederate
April 24, 2009, 08:46 PM
It's fairly easy to do trigger work one's self. Buy a couple of stones, some honing oil and several grits of fine sandpaper and work on polishing the internal pieces. You can get some Wolf springs to make the pulls lighter and just dry firing it about 1,000 times will work wonders. Don't change the shape of anything, but remove the sharp edges.

Dimis
April 25, 2009, 12:17 AM
thanks guys im a bit of a do it myselfer but this ones getting sent out as i have great plans for it mwahahahaha ok so just some engraving and some grips sorry to get your hopes up lol

Dimis
April 25, 2009, 01:57 AM
why do a blackpowder chamfer on the front of the cylinder? what does this look like exactly? will it hurt accuracy at all?
do you know of anyone that will cut custom grips if i supply the material?


still need answers on these

Dimis
April 25, 2009, 02:53 PM
ok i answered my own question on the BP CHamfer but...

anyone know a place that will make custom grips from my material?

RugRev
April 25, 2009, 03:18 PM
Bowen may have a picture of this on the website. Essentially, the front of the cylinder is beveled more as on the old Colt single action revolvers. If you can find a S&W Mtn. Gun it has a bevel on the cylinder front, also. As to using your wood you might talk to Herrett or one of the other operations. Usually, they are somewhat particular in that they like to control the wood relative to drying and such. One other person you may consider is Roy Fishpaw. He is quite expensive but offers all sorts of woods the others don't and makes the grips to fit your hand and in various styles. He has no website. Here is his contact info:

Roy Fishpaw
793 Mt. Olivet Church Road
Lynchburg, VA 24504
434-993-3470

Relative to doing it yourself (which I can understand you sending it out) over at Rugerforum.net there is a former gunsmith that offers IBOKs on various Ruger models (but not the Redhawk)
that will give a basic understanding of the smoothing process. After 10 posts there you have access to these. I have had a number of Redhawks tuned by a number of people over the
years (along with other Rugers) and played with the spring kits myself. As I mentioned the Redhawk is a bit more constricted than the other Rugers in terms of light springs. Wolff offers
a kit with 12, 13 and 14 pound mainsprings (17 is factory). The last tuned Redhawk I had had
0.063" headspace (0.060" is minimum), minimum endshake on the cylinder, and a Bowen extended firing pin (0.055" protrusion static). Relative to the last Bowen claims the Redhawk
suffers from insufficient protrusion. You can find more on his website. Iowegan, the former
gunsmith over at Rugerforum.net maintains one must be concerned with dynamic pin protrusion and usually when there is not enough it can be cured by squaring up the space
behind the recoil shield in the hammer slot as the corners may be rounded preventing the
hammer from going all the way forward on the firing pin. There are also several other methods
for increasing firing pin protrusion if you are interested.

At any rate on the last Redhawk I tried all 3 springs in the kit. The 12 lb wound only work reliably in double action (no misfires) with Federal large primers (easiest to ignite) and whatever Corbon uses in their .44mag ammo. The double action pull was 8.8 lbs. With the 14 lb spring the double action was about 10.5 lbs and single around 4.5. Double action ignition was 100% with the previous ammo and also with Remington and WW .44 mag. In the past I have had other Redhawks tuned that worked with the 13 lb mainspring (each gun is an individual in what works). Bowen claims that when tuning a Redhawk for hunting the double action usually comes out around 10.5-11.0 lbs which is about what Clements claimed when he was still doing double actions.

So, I agree with you that you want smooth. On the last gun even at 10.5 lbs due to the weight
of the Redhawk (compared to medium frame such as GP-100) I never noticed the pull weight
that much. It worked for me especially with Herrett Roper grips.

One other thing (cosmetic) that can be done is the thumb pad on the hammer can be built up by welding (much like a S&W target hammer) for single action shooting. Jim Stroh of Alpha Precision can do this. His website is at:

http://www.alphaprecisioninc.com/

I never have had this done but he used the same technique to widen a trigger I had on a Colt
Python and it came out great.

Here is a picture of a Redhawk with Herrett Roper grips:

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt345/Bronco45_album/DSCF0014.jpg

This comes from a thread over at Rugerforum.com at:

http://www.rugerforum.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=54022&sid=1b69d17053a84afe33708ae3d519d5f9

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