controling fireants


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paintballdude902
April 24, 2009, 09:38 PM
any one have a good way of controling fireants without using alot of poison

we have a 250 acre farm half wooded half farm land we have alot of horses and then farm about 1/3 of it the section that we farm and the section with the horses have alot of fireants on them

im trying to help the quail out and make a decent area for them to nest we leave a 15ft field border of tall grass for them to nest in as a friend that works for nc wildlife but i was told on multiple occasions that fireants are very hard on them

any way of controling them with out usin alot of poisons?

do they have any natural predators?

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MCgunner
April 24, 2009, 09:55 PM
2,4,6 trinitrotoluene

PT1911
April 24, 2009, 09:57 PM
take a scoop of one bed and put it in the other and vice versa... they are their own predators.. then sit back and enjoy the war.

zxcvbob
April 24, 2009, 10:10 PM
Logic™ fireant bait. It takes about 1 pound per acre. The ants gather it up and take it home. Takes maybe a month to kill the colonies. You'll have to treat again in a year or two when new ants move in from your neighbors' fields.

paintballdude902
April 24, 2009, 10:23 PM
pt1911 great idea just gotta do it without getting chewed up

zxcvbob where can i find logic?

Floppy_D
April 24, 2009, 10:24 PM
zxcvbob where can i find logic?

Anywhere but DC, I understand.

paintballdude902
April 24, 2009, 10:37 PM
lol good one dont say that one too much or the men in black may come pay you a visit

JImbothefiveth
April 24, 2009, 10:41 PM
Wouldn't the logic stuff qualify as poison, especially in D.C.?

zxcvbob
April 24, 2009, 10:42 PM
I don't know. I haven't live in fireant territory for about 17 years so I've kind of lost touch with it. The good news is the patent as run out by now, so there should be multiple sources -- assuming the stuff hasn't been banned by the EPA. The active ingredient is "Fenoxycarb", and you want it formulated with corncob grits or some other ant bait. Check with Hi-Yield and maybe Ortho.

It is nontoxic to birds, and other wildlife except for fish. So watch out for where the runoff goes so you don't poison your ponds.

paintballdude902
April 25, 2009, 03:26 AM
ok thats a biggie too

we have a small pond that has some very large bass (10-25lbs so far) and tons of brim so run off is kinda important i bet id be safe putting it 40-50 yards off though

Nematocyst
April 25, 2009, 06:41 PM
A lever gun in .0030-.0030 and lots of ammo.

Days of fun.

:D

jhco
April 25, 2009, 07:14 PM
I'd use a .45 maybe a .40 but I'd fell more protected with a .45

rcmodel
April 25, 2009, 07:18 PM
Saw a show on TV the other night about this spike-haired exterminator dude.

He was spraying them with some sort of soap mixture.
Claimed it killed them by breaking down the wax film on their exoskeletons so the sap evaporated out of them.

rc

Jason_G
April 25, 2009, 07:25 PM
2,4,6 trinitrotoluene
:D:D:D

That would be the most fun, but...


A slightly less "exuberant" version of the same "fun":

Take an ABC fire extinguisher and a bottle of bleach. Hit the ants with a spray bottle of bleach, and then hit them with the fire extinguisher. The bleach and fire extinguisher (I think it's monoammonium phosphate) will not react with each other until the fireants touch the mixture. Once they do, each ant will pop like a Black Cat firecracker. It's pretty impressive, and they don't seem to come back either. Any ant that traipses across the mixture is an instant goner.

Jason

MCgunner
April 25, 2009, 10:25 PM
We've got this new ant here, they're calling the "strawberry" something. It's a tiny little ant, doesn't sting, sort of annoying if it gets in your picnic basket, but so small it doesn't bother me. Haven't seen 'em in the house, either. Supposedly they came off a boat at the port of Houston. They actually kill fire ants. I'm not sure if they eat 'em, but they kill 'em. They've almost cleaned out the fire ant mounds in my yard and they don't build a big mound like fire ants do. They were yappin' on the news about trying to get rid of these strawberry critters. NOOOOOOOO! I like 'em! :D

MCgunner
April 25, 2009, 10:37 PM
Ah, I googled it, "crazy strawberry ants". They're coming to a town near you.....eventually. :D

JimKirk
April 25, 2009, 11:38 PM
fipronil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fipronil

Works here in South Georgia.....kinda $$

Jimmy K

oklahoma caveman
April 27, 2009, 12:09 AM
some very large bass (10-25lbs so far)

PBD sorry but i hafta ask, think you may be exageratting a little bit there?

being that the world record is 22 pounds 4 ounces, and several tackle companies have offered million dollar rewards for the new world record, im gonna guess that you havent caught a bass that weighed that much.

if you truly have and you released it then props to you my friend, im just sayin that its highly unlikely, and ona them things i need proof of to believe

kanook
April 27, 2009, 09:32 AM
maybe you just misunderstood him. that could be the combined weight of all the fish he caught:D

indoorsoccerfrea
April 27, 2009, 09:35 AM
maybe he meant 10 to 25 inches? feed the ants to the fish. pick the ants up in your hands one by one and throw them in the water. then you will have 10-25 pound already spiced fish!

MCgunner
April 27, 2009, 11:29 AM
Well, a 10" bass ain't "very large". LOL! But, probably the mistake, I'm guessing. I prefer salt water, anyway. I've caught bull reds and black drum a lot bigger than that! :D I ain't even gonna talk sharks, that'd be cheatin'.

Art Eatman
April 27, 2009, 12:12 PM
I use a mix of super-cheap liquid detergent (Big Lots is a good source), gasoline and water. A half-cup to a cup of soap and of gas into five gallons of water.

I use a sprinkler-type flower-garden watering can, sprinkling maybe a gallon on a mound. Around 90% kill; quite often I don't need to do a second hit. Works fine in sandy soil here at my wife's place in south Georgia...

paintballdude902
April 28, 2009, 08:05 PM
i was using bass as a general term we have a 24 pound grass carp thatw as put in a few years back

it has a number of fish in it that were stocked 10-15 years ago by my brother in law's father and nobody has ever really used the pond for anything we just do catch and release so everything stays in it

ill talk to daniel for the picture of the 17.5 pound large mouth his son caught last week

gunner pretty soon the strippers will start running and ill be out in the boat but till the summer i pretty much keep tot he pond just for fun. around may we start going ino the sound for some fun , sun, and fishing

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