It's all greek to me...
TechBrute
October 13, 2003, 08:44 PM
Can anyone provide a graphic with the correct spelling of Molon Labe? I think there's several ways floating around out there, but I'd like to see the real thing.
Lately, my hobby has been machining, and I've built a rudimentary mill with stepping motors and I want to do some computer controlled engraving. Of course, I'm going to be engraving this on a couple of things. :D
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Chipperman
October 13, 2003, 09:04 PM
See Here:
http://www.thefiringline.com/HCI/molon_labe.htm
TechBrute
October 13, 2003, 09:15 PM
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
BHPshooter
October 13, 2003, 10:01 PM
Of course, I'm going to be engraving this on a couple of things.
Please post pics of whatever you engrave! That sounds really cool!
Wes
Mal H
October 13, 2003, 10:20 PM
TechBrute, I hope you haven't engraved anything in stone yet. :)
The spelling in the link is incorrect. I wish it had been corrected before TFL locked the doors. We had many, many discussions on the spelling which included some classical Greek scholars. Finally a member (SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI) found a photo of the actual statue of Leonidas at Thermopylae. It clearly showed the first 'O' to be an omicron, not an omega. With that change you should be safe to proceed. There are some accent marks if you with to include them, but they aren't absolutely necessary. Unfortunately, the pictures are no longer available and I couldn't find it on the net for the life of me.
This shows the statue, but it's not a closeup, so you can't see the inscription: http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21114n/e211nn01.html
bbrins
October 13, 2003, 11:00 PM
Not very clear, but closer.
http://www.lsg.musin.de/geschichte/Augenzeugenberichte/thermo2.jpg
And a different statue.
http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Greece/Sparta/Sparta-Leonidas.jpg
Black92LX
October 13, 2003, 11:18 PM
this might help more
http://www.mustangmods.com/data/3194/molonlaveresize.jpg
jrhead75
October 13, 2003, 11:23 PM
WOW Black92LX...that sucker's great!!! Where'd you find it?
Black92LX
October 13, 2003, 11:28 PM
it's a shirt from libertyoutlet.com but i can't get the website to work. i believe it was made by a guy here on this site.
Kaylee
October 13, 2003, 11:46 PM
it's a shirt from libertyoutlet.com but i can't get the website to work. i believe it was made by a guy here on this site.
Otherwise known as your host, Mr. Oleg Volk (http://www.a-human-right.com)
and yeah, that's one of his better ones I think. .30 cal AR and all. :D
-K
Oleg Volk
October 13, 2003, 11:46 PM
See the link in my tag line -- I made that and a few other tshirts. If they prove more popular than they have up to now, I'll make some more images available as wearables.
Black92LX
October 13, 2003, 11:51 PM
so are the shirts no longer available i really wanted to get one. because i just got paid friday, but the site hasn't been working.
Mal H
October 14, 2003, 12:45 AM
bbrins - Thanks! That's the one. It clearly shows the correct spelling.
black92lx - "it's a shirt from libertyoutlet.com ...". Huh? That sure looks like a hat to me. ;) It's one of Larry Correia's. He regularly makes a run of them along with the shirts. Last one was in July, IIRC. You might want to PM him to see when the next offering might be.
semf
October 14, 2003, 01:14 AM
Molon Labe---the American translation is "Nuts"
Any WWII buffs out there?
BluesBear
October 14, 2003, 01:32 AM
It's one of Larry Correia's. He regularly makes a run of them along with the shirts. Last one was in July, IIRC. You might want to PM him to see when the next offering might be.
Who is this and how can I message him?
Black92LX
October 14, 2003, 09:34 AM
"it's a shirt from libertyoutlet.com ...". Huh? That sure looks like a hat to me. It's one of Larry Correia's. He regularly makes a run of them along with the shirts. Last one was in July, IIRC. You might want to PM him to see when the next offering might be.
i am refering to the graphic as a whole. not just the hat she is wearing. you used to be able to get, shirts, coffee mugs, mousepads with that whole photo on it. from libertyoutlet.com but the site is down.
RTFM
October 14, 2003, 09:36 AM
semf Molon Labe---the American translation is "Nuts"
Any WWII buffs out there?
The American General Anthony Clement McAuliffe is with out no doubt the one and only person who got world famous by saying just one single word.
The word was “Nuts!”
And it was delivered on the 22nd of December 1944 during the Battle of the Bulge in the Ardennes in Belgium.
McAuliffe’s response was given to the German delegation asking the Americans either to surrender or to be killed.
The Americans were short off ammunition, food and other supplies. But not off courage. And McAuliffe’s defiant reply gave the troops extraordinary fighting spirit.
McAuliffe and his one-word reply are considered the most famous quote of World War II and it went straight into history. Many Americans have met the phrase in their History lessons (perhaps with out remembering today, who said the word – why and where).
The French newspapers in 1944 had it on the frontage two days later:
“A new punch-line in American lore was written this week by a wiry general, McAuliffe…he said “Nuts!”, when he was asked to surrender.”
The locals in Bastogne first thought that McAuliffe referred to the Nut Fair held at Bastogne about this period of the year, but soon the city was nicknamed “Nuts City” because off McAuliffe.
“On your way, Bud!”
101st Airborne Division had established head quarters a few miles outside the city of Bastogne, a small town but a transportation centre with many crossing roads and therefore quite important to keep in control.
It was December the 22nd and the battle was commencing on its sixth day.
The time was precise 11.30. The American soldiers could in the distance see four dark spots appearing. It was German soldiers carrying a white flag. One of the Germans, a captain, could speak English. He said that they were parliamentarians and that they would deliver a message to the American commander.
McAuliffe was handled the paper and was informed: “We have a surrender ultimatum from the Germans”. McAuliffe asked: “You mean they want us to surrender?” McAuliffe laughed and said: “Aw, Nuts!” The demand was absurd for McAuliffe. He read the note:
“To the American Commander:
The fortune of war is changing. The American forces in and near Bastogne have now been encircled by strong German armoured units.
There is only one possibility to save you from total annihilation: To surrender with honour. A term of two hours will be given from presenting this note. If this should be rejected heavy artillery corps and battalions will immediately after the two hours respite annihilate the American troops in and near Bastogne.
Signed:
The German Commander
"What on earth shall I say?" asked McAuliffe his men.
"Well, that first remark of yours would be hard to beat," said Lt. Col. Harry Kinnard.
"What did I say?" asked McAuliffe, who him self wasn't aware of what he had said.
"You said Nuts!" replied Kinnard and all other soldiers voiced their approval.
“That’s it!” beamed McAuliffe.
The response was perfect. Typically American: Go to Hell we won’t give up! Even though many of McAuliffe’s men had only around twenty rounds of ammunition!
Link NUTS! (http://users.skynet.be/bulgecriba/AnthonyMcAuliffe.htm)
And so it was: RTFM
MuzzleBlast
October 14, 2003, 09:37 AM
Any WWII buffs out there?
Hoowah. Don't remember the man's name, but he was an officer in the 101st, surrounded at Bastogne.
edit: Read The Forking Manual beat me to the draw, with a lot more info.
Correia
October 14, 2003, 09:39 AM
I'm Larry Correia, I'll be selling hats again here in a little bit. I'm just waiting for Oleg to send me the finalized THR artwork. (nudge, nudge) :p
Black92LX
October 14, 2003, 09:45 AM
if you don't mind sending me a PM when you get more info on the hats that would be appreciated.
TarpleyG
October 14, 2003, 11:02 AM
МОΛΏΝ ΛΑΒΈ
semf
October 14, 2003, 11:19 AM
And so it was: RTFM Thanks I've heard the story many times but did not know the details. I thought this would be an appropriate place to ask.
DorGunR
October 14, 2003, 11:44 AM
RTFM posted: “A new punch-line in American lore was written this week by a wiry general, McAuliffe…he said “Nuts!”, when he was asked to surrender.”
A lot of people think this was not exactly what General McAuliffe actually said.........it's thought that what he actually said could not be printed because it would have been rated "R" for content.;)
edited cause I can't spell.:rolleyes:
BluesBear
October 14, 2003, 04:19 PM
Correia, please PM me when hats are again available. I definately want at least one.
And if anyone in the Edmonds/Lynnwood/Everett/Seattle, Washington area want any I'll be glad to and get them distributed maybe we can save on the shipping costs this way.
gun-fucious
October 14, 2003, 04:33 PM
heres the olde TFL shirt art
SJ
October 14, 2003, 11:16 PM
Here's the statue of Leonidas at Thermopylae:
(scanned from The Wars of the Ancient Greeks by Victor Hanson, I don't see a photo credit).
http://home.flash.net/~mpisi/Pics/leonidas3.jpg
Close-up:
http://home.flash.net/~mpisi/Pics/molon_labe.jpg
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