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hdgroundpounder
April 26, 2009, 10:09 AM
Big question... For the last 25 years or so I've owned this python. It may have had 500 rounds put through it in its life time. Its been Mag-Na-Ported, jeweled hammed and trigger and tuned. I'm really a auto guy and I might have found a replacement. Should I trade or try and sell outright? Or keep it? Whats a good price for it?

Greg, MN

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HexHead
April 26, 2009, 11:00 AM
Every person I've run into that's had a Python and sold it has said they regret getting rid of it.

It's not like they're making more of them.

SaxonPig
April 26, 2009, 11:05 AM
Do you really want me to tell you which guns you should keep and which you should sell?

If you decide to sell be aware that the modifications you describe will turn off many potential buyers and may lower the amount people are willing to pay for it. A nice 4" Python these days will bring $800-$1,500 (I know that's wide range but I watch the auctions and that's where they sell although most go for $1,000-$1,200) but the value on yours may be seriously compromised.

hdgroundpounder
April 26, 2009, 01:31 PM
Thanks guys for your thoughts! I've been out of the gun circuit(FFL) for a while and have many toys. Of all the toys the python is the lowest on my totem pole. I guess one guys treasure is another mans gunk! Glad to have your opinions.

Greg

Olympus
April 26, 2009, 10:19 PM
If you're looking to sell, I'm always looking to buy. You never said whether it was stainless or blued. You should take some pictures of it and post them on here. You'll get a better idea of what to expect to get from it. PM me if you're interested in selling!

harmonic
April 27, 2009, 01:06 AM
Its been Mag-Na-Ported, jeweled hammed and trigger and tuned.

Those modifications have destroyed its collector's value. I doubt you'd get as much for it (as you otherwise would).

Upstate Gun Man
April 27, 2009, 08:33 AM
I visited a local gun show yesterday. Pythons were bringing $1000 - $1500 depending on condition. you may want to re think this.

Olympus
April 27, 2009, 10:42 AM
The guys are right about the porting decreasing it's value considerably. You won't see guns like that going for $1000+. You might get some yuppie to bite because it's a Python. But most people that know anything about Pythons generally won't pay those prices for something that's been modified.

hdgroundpounder
April 27, 2009, 12:51 PM
Again thanks guys! I do appreciate the comments. Since its been in the "family" I'd keep it and take a snub bulldog in 41 special to the market. The caliber just doesn't fit with the rest of the family. Again thanks!!

Greg

one45auto
April 27, 2009, 08:31 PM
I've got the same dilemma, only my Python is a factory stock matte stainless 6" model. I could use the money, but hate to part with a collectors item like that (even if it is a safe queen) so I just go back and forth, back and forth, back and.....

Flame Red
April 28, 2009, 12:01 PM
I usually run into one or two Pythons each show that have had these sorts of modifications. My advice is to keep them. They are very tough to sell even though they are great shooters. If they sell at all, they go for about half what an untouched one goes for.

That being said, I would not mind buying one to shoot but I never seem to have the money when one comes up. Or if I do, the seller is asking more than an untouched Python!

Modifications always cost your twice - once for the cost of the mod and the second time for the decrease in value. Only exception is something like grips that can easily be returned to stock.

paul45
April 28, 2009, 12:52 PM
May I also add the mag-na-porting and jeweling makes it a 500 dollar Python if you are lucky. Keep it.

tactikel
April 28, 2009, 09:38 PM
Do not sell it!! You will regret it, and never have a chance to replace it! This is the time to buy guns, especially beautiful, classic ones!

Guillermo
April 28, 2009, 10:36 PM
I only have one python and wish I had 43

You are only 42 away

Olympus
April 29, 2009, 10:47 AM
My opinion is that Pythons aren't going to dry up. The pristine ones, never shot ones, or particularly rare ones probabaly will though. They'll get added to someone's collection and never surface on the market again. But shooter grades or ones that have been modified will continue to circulate. People need money and buy and sell guns all the time. Shooter grades get replaced with high quality ones and they get sold. But because of the limited supply, prices will also likely increase. If you don't care about the porting, I'd say keep the gun. If you're not crazy about it, it wouldn't be a horrible thing to sell it. Just know ahead of time that you'll take the hit on resale price because of the modifications though. I promise that you'll find another one. They're not THAT rare. You will have to pay a little more for it, but I don't know what your financial situation is like.

DoubleAction
May 2, 2009, 01:31 AM
Its been Mag-Na-Ported, jeweled hammed and trigger and tuned

Nobody needs such a gun in the condition in. Python are best left alone, especially after you'll decided the piece. The next mention is you name engraved in phony gold across the frame. I do you are favor, I can offer $300. for the gun ? I do accept postal money orders but the gun must the sent day delivery. I do appreciate photo please.

GUNKWAZY
May 2, 2009, 08:23 AM
Nobody needs such a gun in the condition in. Python are best left alone, especially after you'll decided the piece. The next mention is you name engraved in phony gold across the frame. I do you are favor, I can offer $300. for the gun ? I do accept postal money orders but the gun must the sent day delivery. I do appreciate photo please.

First off, let me say... Huh ? What the ---- did you just say ?

Anyway, $300 offer, $500 if you're lucky ?

If the gun is is done nicely, I'd bet the house on it that the gun would sell in a heartbeat for more than that at any gun show in the first hour.
Sorry, but I'm speaking first hand here. Not just making things up.
You guys have not even seen the gun and you're bashing.
Yes, it's true, most people wanting a Python want it in it's purest form. Mint in box with factory stocks and papers. But, with-out seeing a gun you're already telling the OP it's now worth less than 1/2 of what it would go for if it had not been modified.
C-mon. You guys must not get out much.

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

pmeisel
May 2, 2009, 10:44 AM
I think it would sell quickly if priced as a shooter, not a collector... I would rather have that Python as modified than, say, a new 686.... It would make a great companion to my unmodified Python.

The Lone Haranguer
May 2, 2009, 07:27 PM
I do you are favor, I can offer $300. for the gun ?

Are you kidding? :confused::scrutiny:

DoubleAction
May 3, 2009, 12:11 AM
CALL ME CRAZY, but I made a lot sweet deals firearms, Does any care to see ? His Colt has been altered from the it's original condition.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/DoubleAction77/Double%20Action%20Revolvers/MyColtPythons.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/DoubleAction77/Double%20Action%20Revolvers/29-2A.jpg

Stay Tuned; I have around 38 more to go.

DoubleAction
May 3, 2009, 12:29 AM
Big question... For the last 25 years or so I've owned this python. It may have had 500 rounds put through it in its life time. Its been Mag-Na-Ported, jeweled hammed and trigger and tuned. I'm really a auto guy and I might have found a replacement. Should I trade or try and sell outright? Or keep it? Whats a good price for it?



"may have had 500 rounds put through it in its life time"

That rules out "Like New In Box".

DoubleAction
May 3, 2009, 12:44 AM
Picture Time Again

My S&W 27-2 / 4" inch/ Factory Tuned Trigger Package

Never Fired "New Like New In Box" / $475.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/DoubleAction77/Double%20Action%20Revolvers/27-2.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/DoubleAction77/Double%20Action%20Revolvers/27-2Checker.jpg

Riddle me this : How years did S&W make the Model 27, with the pinned barrels and recessed cylinders, with the four inch barrels ?

GUNKWAZY
May 3, 2009, 08:31 AM
Hey Double Action....

Kinda try to stick with the story line.:confused::confused::confused:
I don't care if you go fishing with your dad or if you're brother bought a 22 back in 1927 for $15 or even if S&W only made 3 guns in 1975.
This is not show and tell nor did the OP ever say he had a NIB gun.:rolleyes:
But $300, with-out seeing any pictures ??? The darn stocks could be worth $200 alone.
The OP asked what the gun is worth, not what he could expect to get if he was going to get ripped off.

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

tasco 74
May 3, 2009, 09:42 PM
colt pythons are probably the most beautiful .357 revolvers ever made....


LIFE IS SHORT.....

DoubleAction
May 3, 2009, 11:54 PM
Hey Double Action....

Kinda try to stick with the story line.
I don't care if you go fishing with your dad or if you're brother bought a 22 back in 1927 for $15 or even if S&W only made 3 guns in 1975.
This is not show and tell nor did the OP ever say he had a NIB gun.
But $300, with-out seeing any pictures ??? The darn stocks could be worth $200 alone.
The OP asked what the gun is worth, not what he could expect to get if he was going to get ripped off.

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

GunkLazy; Envy will not have a place this forum. I respectfully demand of you to lower tone with me; otherwise, prepare to face the consequences......?

DoubleAction
May 3, 2009, 11:56 PM
Riddle me this : How years did S&W make the Model 27, with the pinned barrels and recessed cylinders, with the four inch barrels ?

Hostile Amish
May 4, 2009, 01:54 AM
Keep your Python, especially if you have had work done on it. If you sell it, you will be upset that you did.

DoubleAction
May 4, 2009, 02:12 AM
$300. Take it or Leave It

tasco 74
May 4, 2009, 02:52 AM
the second most beautiful .357 magnum is the s&w model 27.... doubleaction showing a pic of the top strap checkering is the right thing to do.... that feature makes that revolver one of the most desireable handguns.....

mnrivrat
May 4, 2009, 03:16 AM
Interesting responses so far ;)

If selling you might want to do so on Gunbroker auctions to get the best price you can for it. I suspect that will be at least $600 and might climb close to the $1,000 depending on the two people who want it most. (even with modifications you mention)

DoubleAction
May 4, 2009, 05:20 AM
the second most beautiful .357 magnum is the s&w model 27.... doubleaction showing a pic of the top strap checkering is the right thing to do.... that feature makes that revolver one of the most desireable handguns.....
__________________


tasco 74; Colt's Python was the it's cream de crop; S&W's Flag Ship was The Model 27. I played off both these guns when I acquired them. The hand checkered top strap and polished blued finished was perhaps a noteworthy statement which went along the detail features this gun.

DoubleAction
May 4, 2009, 05:34 AM
Riddle me this :

How years did S&W make the Model 27, with the pinned barrels, recessed cylinders, and with the four inch barrels ?


Only Two Years
Out Of 45 years with Pinned Barrels and Recessed Cylinders
1935 - 1980

hdgroundpounder
May 4, 2009, 01:49 PM
Hey Double.... first I'll say thanks for the offer. I'll send you a few condoms so the next time you try and scew me it will be with protection.

For the rest of you... I'm keeping the python and no it doesn't have my F'in name engraved on it, and thanks for talking me into to keeping it.

DoubleAction
May 4, 2009, 07:24 PM
Hey Double.... first I'll say thanks for the offer. I'll send you a few condoms so the next time you try and scew me it will be with protection.


hdgroundpounder; Sorry to hear that. Tell the truth, I only gave $400. dollars for my own 4" inch Python, and was New Unfired In The Box.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/DoubleAction77/Double%20Action%20Revolvers/MyColtPythons.jpg

earlthegoat2
May 4, 2009, 10:11 PM
I dont regret selling guns that are too valuable to shoot. If you sell it to get a shooter then good on ya.

hdgroundpounder
May 4, 2009, 10:22 PM
Double no hard feelings, ok? Used the same line on my local Harley dealer a few years ago, you're not the first. Still happy to keep it! Ended up just buying a Kahr MK9 and the collection just got bigger. Thanks all!!!!

Greg

DoubleAction
May 5, 2009, 12:08 AM
hdgroundpounder; This is fact, I was just pulling on your leg the whole time :)

I did get said about giving my own Python, but that 15 years ago.

Hold On to your Colt !!

GUNKWAZY
May 5, 2009, 08:37 AM
GunkLazy; Envy will not have a place this forum. I respectfully demand of you to lower tone with me; otherwise, prepare to face the consequences......?

Learn some forum etiquette DA.
You took a normal thread from someone else and turned in to all about you and your weird twisted verbage.
Learning the language may help us understand what you're rattling off about as well.
Talking about every other gun than what the OP is asking about and insulting that person does not help the way I feel about you.
But threaten me ??? Are you serious ? Any day little worm any day.:cuss:

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

Olympus
May 5, 2009, 10:28 AM
If DoubleAction found some steals on Pythons for $400 then that's awesome. I always love to find steals. But the thing about steals is that they seem to be very rare. I bought a Diamondback a while back for $300 but I don't wave it in someone else's face saying that since I only paid $300 for mine then someone else's is only worth that much as well.

It sounds like DoubleAction either caught a "motivated" seller or somone who was uneducated on the value of prices. Either way, not everyone else with a Python for sale will be the same. I think that's why everyone has pretty much ignored the $300 offer he made. Nobody is taking it seriously.

As for me, I know I wouldn't argue with Gunkwazy. He knows more about Pythons (and Smiths) than anyone I've encountered.

CDH
May 5, 2009, 06:01 PM
If DoubleAction found some steals on Pythons for $400 then that's awesome.

I found a "deal" like that too. It was about $450, NIB with all papers, warranty and instructions, and it was under the counter of a sporting goods store where I bought it brand spanking new...
in the late 70's. :D

DA, you crossed a line in a bid to be humorous. But all you did was to be annoying.
Try to work on that forum etiquette thing, kay?

As far as the OP Python; it's true that it will never bring what an unmodified Python will in the same condition, so I would personally not only keep it, but I'd enjoy the heck out of it and shoot it a bunch.
Shooting it now won't change it's value, and it's nice to have one you can shoot and not feel guilty.

I bought two of my Pythons when they were brand new. The 4" that I noted above, and in 1982, I bought a brand new Python Hunter set (with scope) in the Halliburton case. I originally intended to shoot it but never got around to it, and it this point, I probably never will for obvious reasons. The tag is still hanging from the trigger guard.

But having two Pythons I don't shoot was silly, so I bought a used 6" stainless Python ("K" series which I guess is a good thing) that looks new no matter how much it's taken to the range, so that's my "shooter".

DoubleAction
May 5, 2009, 08:28 PM
Envy will you get no place with me. Turn your off your horns on me and go back to your useless ramblings.

DoubleAction
May 5, 2009, 08:39 PM
There was time when I collected custom made double action revolvers; but was clean out a few years ago. The reason; my Wilson Combat CBQ pistol and gear. The trade took over a week of negotiations to finally shake hands on reaching the high points. Altogether we was bringing $6,000. worth of merchandise to the table.

For my end, I was bringing three Weigand Combat revolvers and one custom Ruger 10/22 to the table.

On the end of the table was two new brand Wilson Combat CBQ pistols, 20 Wilson magazines, $700. dollars worth brand new holsters, and 1500 rds of Winchester SXT, Speer Gold Dot, Federal Premium HYDRA-SHOK, and Remington Golden Sabers. If there was anything else added I lost count.

This was the deal to end all deals at the table. I was fortunate to recover two of the revolvers, but took me some time.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/DoubleAction77/1911/WilsonCQBs.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/DoubleAction77/1911/Magazines01-1.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/DoubleAction77/1911/WilsonStuff.jpg

My Total Investment For This Trade $1,500. dollars

DoubleAction
May 5, 2009, 08:46 PM
I found a "deal" like that too. It was about $450, NIB with all papers, warranty and instructions, and it was under the counter of a sporting goods store where I bought it brand spanking new...
in the late 70's.


In the Late '70's ? I was talking about 1994; 20 years later. I still beat your price.

GUNKWAZY
May 5, 2009, 08:50 PM
Turn your off your horns on me and go back to your useless ramblings.

So say-eth the King of useless ramblings.
The man who can turn anyone elses post about something, into nothing that anyone cares about.
We bow down to you oh great King of the Bullsh--.


Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

JohnBT
May 5, 2009, 08:57 PM
"The trade took over a week of negotiations"

Why am I not surprised.

Meanwhile, I too have a blue 4" Python. It's a combination range gun/safe queen and great fun to shoot. Maybe I'll put a 2x scope or an UltraDot on a 6" one just to aggravate the traditionalists. :)

John

DoubleAction
May 5, 2009, 09:08 PM
So say-eth the King of useless ramblings.
The man who can turn anyone elses post about something, into nothing that anyone cares about.
We bow down to you oh great King of the Bullsh--.


Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

GUNKLAZY; You've got a problem, and It's not me.

DoubleAction
May 5, 2009, 09:23 PM
"The trade took over a week of negotiations"

Why am I not surprised.

Meanwhile, I too have a blue 4" Python. It's a combination range gun/safe queen and great fun to shoot. Maybe I'll put a 2x scope or an UltraDot on a 6" one just to aggravate the traditionalists.

John

Thanks for reply John; The reason it took so long cut a deal, was that Jack Weigand had just announced his intentions to retire. Three of his custom revolvers were sitting my end of the table. One of the revolvers was The North American Hunter package, built on a S&W 629 Classic DX. I knew that I stood a poor chance of keeping the revolvers back.

GUNKWAZY
May 5, 2009, 11:16 PM
To hdgroundpounder ,

I'm sorry that your thread got hijacked.

Good luck to you with your Python.
By the way, I wouldn't mind seeing some pics if you ever get the chance.
I tend to like $300 Pythons. ;)

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

DoubleAction
May 5, 2009, 11:32 PM
To hdgroundpounder ,

I'm sorry that your thread got hijacked.

Good luck to you with your Python.
By the way, I wouldn't mind seeing some pics if you ever get the chance.
I tend to like $300 Pythons.

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

Silly Twit; Nobody Hijacked This Thread.

DoubleAction
May 5, 2009, 11:55 PM
Meanwhile; I hope hdgroundpounder has certainly seen through all the humor in this and decided on keeping his Colt.

GUNKWAZY
May 6, 2009, 01:35 AM
I've tried to keep this on an adult level, but it's obvious you can't be up at that level.
Knock the crap off.:fire:

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

DoubleAction
May 6, 2009, 01:58 AM
:fire:] ha

hdgroundpounder
May 6, 2009, 06:41 PM
Guys again thanks for advice, mis-advice and humor! This group sounds like most of my gun trading friends in MN, most are half nuts!
Keeping the python and ended up with a two tone Kahr MK9 and still have to sell a charter arms 41 bulldog. Any offers on that one?? Glad I posted and as a newbie here thanks for the welcome.
Greg

GUNKWAZY
May 6, 2009, 08:12 PM
Greg,
If you're serious about selling your others, you can always post some info and pics in our Classified section of this forum.

Again, good luck.

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

hdgroundpounder
May 6, 2009, 09:19 PM
Jeff thanks!!
When I recieve the Kahr I'll take photos. It WILL be the first time the collection is photographed!
Greg

Olympus
May 7, 2009, 11:18 AM
Nobody Hijacked This Thread.

Are you serious? Here just a few examples...

In the Late '70's ? I was talking about 1994; 20 years later. I still beat your price.

There was time when I collected custom made double action revolvers; but was clean out a few years ago. The reason; my Wilson Combat CBQ pistol and gear. The trade took over a week of negotiations to finally shake hands on reaching the high points. Altogether we was bringing $6,000. worth of merchandise to the table.

For my end, I was bringing three Weigand Combat revolvers and one custom Ruger 10/22 to the table.

On the end of the table was two new brand Wilson Combat CBQ pistols, 20 Wilson magazines, $700. dollars worth brand new holsters, and 1500 rds of Winchester SXT, Speer Gold Dot, Federal Premium HYDRA-SHOK, and Remington Golden Sabers. If there was anything else added I lost count.

This was the deal to end all deals at the table. I was fortunate to recover two of the revolvers, but took me some time.

Envy will you get no place with me. Turn your off your horns on me and go back to your useless ramblings.

Riddle me this :

How years did S&W make the Model 27, with the pinned barrels, recessed cylinders, and with the four inch barrels ?



Only Two Years

Out Of 45 years with Pinned Barrels and Recessed Cylinders
1935 - 1980

S&W's Flag Ship was The Model 27. I played off both these guns when I acquired them. The hand checkered top strap and polished blued finished was perhaps a noteworthy statement which went along the detail features this gun.


Silly twit was my thought exactly! :D:D:D

IBTL

sterling7c
May 8, 2009, 04:50 AM
DoubleAction:

“Civility costs nothing and buys everything.”

Mary Worley Montagu

harmonic
May 8, 2009, 09:42 AM
Nobody Hijacked This Thread.

Doubleaction, you not only hijacked this thread, you insulted the OP with your (boorish handling of) and offer of $300 for his Python, in addition to the take it or leave it ultimatum. How amateurish.

You act like the immigrant cousin who comes to America and starts picking his toes at the dinner table and passing gas in an elevator. As Chris Rock would say, That's ignant.

I don't know where you're from, but it sounds like someplace where rude behavior is the norm.

And you paid a whopping $400 for a Python in 1994? Whoopdefreaking do. That's ancient history.

You're embarrassing yourself.




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