Match Primers Vs. Standard


PDA






Martyk
April 27, 2009, 04:32 PM
Sorry if this topic has been hashed already. My search didn't turn up the info I was hoping for.

What's the real difference between Match primers vs. Standard primers? Is it really all that substantial? :confused:

If you enjoyed reading about "Match Primers Vs. Standard" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
ReloaderFred
April 27, 2009, 04:44 PM
There was a story in one of the retail trade magazines concerning this topic a few years ago. They did an interview with Federal concerning Match Primers. They take a little more care with the inspection process and only the most senior and experienced people on the primer line work on the Match Primers.

Other than that, there is no difference, at least at Federal.

Hope this helps.

Fred

shaggy430
April 27, 2009, 05:53 PM
About $1 per hundred.

edelbrock
April 27, 2009, 06:00 PM
Here is a thread that was being discussed yesterday. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=446047

ReloaderFred
April 27, 2009, 06:08 PM
The other thread is discussing Benchrest Primers. Match Primers are another animal. My post is concerning the Federal Gold Medal Match Primers, which the story I referenced was about.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Walkalong
April 27, 2009, 06:44 PM
I am confused now Fred. The "Benchrest" primers we used to use from Federal were "Gold Medal Match (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=95796&d=1239061541)" They never said anything about Benchrest on them.

By the way, the story you related is what I have always heard as well.

What's the real difference between Match primers vs. Standard primers? Is it really all that substantial?Not unless you have the equipment/skill to show it, and not much then. Some would say none.

Marlin 45 carbine
April 27, 2009, 07:13 PM
at this point I'm considering paying for 'match' sp primers.
I've bought some mag sp's at a decent price to trade to fellas that load 'big boomer' .357 for sp's.
but match is looking better all the time, they are available. extra $$ though.

edelbrock
April 27, 2009, 07:18 PM
Well I am confused now too. I have always associated benchrest and match primers as the same.
Match Primers are another animal.
So I guess my question is: What is the difference between benchrest and match? Maybe I need to start another primer thread about that. :)

something vague
April 27, 2009, 08:06 PM
They're the same thing as far as I'm concerned. Just labled different as the names are from two different companies. Federal doesn't call their small pistol primers 500 as does CCI, so why would they use the same name on primers of supposedly better quality.

To answer the original question, I believe ReloaderFred hit it on the head.

ReloaderFred
April 27, 2009, 11:12 PM
None of the component companies will go into much detail as to their manufacturing of primers, since they all consider it proprietary. The closest thing you'll find to an explanation is this from CCI:


CCIŽ BENCHREST RIFLE PRIMERS


In benchrest competition, there’s no such thing as a group that’s “too small.” Everything has to be tuned to the highest degree to produce match-winning results. That’s why we make CCI Benchrest primers. Only our most experienced skilled personnel put the priming mix in the cups, so you get the same flame, shot after shot. We also use specially selected cups and anvils for added consistency. An independent researcher identified the use of CCI Benchrest primers as one of two factors that were the most significant contributors to tiny groups. We can’t add much to that!

Remington also refers to their 7 1/2 primer as Benchrest, but offers no description of the process or component parts.

Federal refers to their Premium primers as Gold Medal Match, but does say that standard data should be used with them. Winchester doesn't make any distinction between their primers.

Minus a ballistics lab to do thorough testing, I guess it's up to each person to make up their own mind about what the differences are.

Hope this helps.

Fred

unloaded
April 28, 2009, 09:52 AM
There are some physical differences in cup thickness:
http://www.jamescalhoon.com/primers_and_pressure.php

peace.
unloaded

243winxb
April 28, 2009, 11:14 AM
Do not use Remington 6 1/2 primers in a 223. Always use Remington 7 1/2 . See warning on Rem's website.

Martyk
April 28, 2009, 05:24 PM
That warning is not necessarily jumping off the site at you... can you provide a link? I couldn't find it.

243winxb
April 28, 2009, 05:54 PM
Here is a Thread on the subject http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=438792 Here is the link to Remington http://remington.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/remington.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=167&p_created=945141864&p_sid=dPdl-9uj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9OCw4JnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9LjIyMw**&p_li=&p_topview=1

If you enjoyed reading about "Match Primers Vs. Standard" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!