22 Hornet Reload problems


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RAVEN1
May 3, 2009, 03:39 PM
I just got into reloading. I took what I reloaded, Hornady .223 45 grain #2220 with a lee #7 scoop. I also took a box of Winchester Super X 46 gr hp. The reloads were all over the place( large dinner plate) while the X's were right on target. Woodchuck paper target at 145 yds. Any suggestions. The rifle was made in the 30's or forties. That is why I bought .223, but the new ammo has to b .224 corrct.

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rcmodel
May 3, 2009, 03:53 PM
Lee #7 scoop of what????

rc

loadedround
May 3, 2009, 05:15 PM
Raven1: Hornady makes two different bullet diameters for the 22 Hornet in 45gr bullets. .223" and .224". I don't have a Hornady catalog handy but I do believe your Hornady #2220 bullets are .223" diameter and were intended for use in much older Hornet rifles with a smaller bore diameter. I load for two 22 Hornet rifles and use the same 45 gr Hornady bullet, however mine are marked #2230 and are .224" diameter bullets. I'm 100% certain that your accuracy problem is the result of using the wrong diameter bullets in your rifle. Check your box and scrap if that's the case. Let us know. :)

rcmodel
May 3, 2009, 05:18 PM
Good point / great catch loadedround!

Yes, Hornady #2220 are .223" bullets and too small for modern Hornet .224" barrels.

rc

moosehunt
May 3, 2009, 07:43 PM
Comment in general, but I have much better succes in the Hornet with lighter bullets, i.e. 35 gr. Of course, you must ascertain your bore diameter--.223 or .224. 30's, especially 40's manufacture could be either. Not old enough to be .223 for certain.

Walkalong
May 3, 2009, 08:35 PM
I had a Savage 23D (I think that is it anyway) and it had a .223 bore. I shot .223 bullets in it. Every Hornet produced for a very long time now has .224 bores.

Doug b
May 3, 2009, 10:01 PM
Walkalong is onto it.If you have a Savage 23D it is .223" dia.I believe it is the only hornet rifled this way.Most 23D's are shot out to .224" dia. or something in that range and group in the "large dinner plate" area with either diameter bullet.

On the other hand I'm having real good results(touching bullet holes @ 100 yrds) with W296 and a mag primer in a Ruger 77/22. Work your way up from suggested start.


Thats with Sierra bullet #1310 45gr. spitzer

bunnielab
May 3, 2009, 10:34 PM
I had no idea that .22Hornet used .224" bullets.

That really puts a damper on my enthusiasm for getting one.

Walkalong
May 4, 2009, 08:29 AM
Why?

loadedround
May 4, 2009, 09:12 AM
Bunnielab, with all due respect, you should consider read a good reloading manual if you are loading this cartridge. The manual will explain the difference between the older Hornet and newer Hornet rifles, and specifically headspace. Common mistakes are made by new reloaders of this cartridge because they didn't take time to read the manual. The 22 Hornet can be unique in several ways. Now anyone want to discuss the K-Hornet? :)

MMCSRET
May 4, 2009, 09:39 AM
My view of 22H is very positive. I've owned and loaded for three different ones, including a 10" T/C Contender. Used cast and jacketed with many powder/primer/case combinations. All were easy to build a solid, accurate load for. But do not try to make the 22H a magnum. Rechamber to 22K if thats what you want.

Walkalong
May 4, 2009, 09:51 AM
But do not try to make the 22H a magnumYep, it is what it is, a nice, fun, light .22.

Doug b
May 4, 2009, 02:26 PM
No way did I mean to try to magnumize this tiny cartridge.The mag primer is used solely to ignite a hard to light ball powder.The"work your way up from suggested start"comment is because no manual shows this combo,and this is the accepted approach to doing it.I found the sweet spot a couple tenths over suggested start.Sorry for the confusion.

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