Opinions on HK USP .45


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Dumptruck
May 3, 2009, 08:02 PM
Been looking into buying the HK USP in the full size but didn't want to buy it without having some good input on it. All the links I have found online have just been to gun magazine reviews (they would give a gun made of 2-ply a good review if the company gave them enough cash).

Anybody own one or have extensive trigger time on one? All info is greatly appreciated.


Side note: Also thinking about an FNP-45.

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Clarence
May 3, 2009, 08:47 PM
My boss has one that I have shot quite a bit. Shoots good and is totally reliable.

The gun seems HUGE to me. Definitely not a CCW in my opinion.

SHusky57
May 3, 2009, 09:02 PM
Oversize.
Don't like the safety because "off safe" is the same motion as "decock."
DA trigger is heavy.
For the price range, I think there are better picks.... but it works and if you like it that's your choice.

James T Thomas
May 3, 2009, 09:05 PM
I had bought a -Compact, in 45ACP.

Good size. Good fit in the hand.
Seemed rugged too.

Then, the magazine was very stiff on the last two rounds inserted.

And the balance was the the factor that I could just not adapt to.
As you know, sighting is balance; fore and aft, as well as yaw, and then multitask trigger control. It was simply unstable to me.
Especially so in rapid fire.

The trigger was poor; I would call it "spongy."

And that was it for my USP.

SharpsDressedMan
May 3, 2009, 09:08 PM
This is going to sound off the wall, but although I own a USP Tactical .45, I don't shoot it much. I got a good deal on it, but it and Glock .45's are a bit large compared to other guns for concealed carry. It shoots great, accurate and reliable, and it DOES have 12-13 rounds available. I would go into combat with it. It is not one of my main, everyday guns. You could do a a whole lot worse than to have an HK USP in .45.

Jason_G
May 3, 2009, 09:12 PM
I've got one, and it's been a great pistol. The DA trigger is L-O-N-G and stacks like flapjacks, but the SA trigger is not bad. The thing is dead reliable. No malf's of any type so far.

Jason

TurboFC3S
May 3, 2009, 09:27 PM
The only reason why a USP wouldn't work for you would be some very specific reason that you'd discover after using for awhile. If you just want a solid reliable gun that gets the job done, buy one. That's kinda how I've been with guns, figure I won't know what I like best until a few hundred rounds ... so I buy some of everything, and have never lost a dime selling ones I didn't like.

I do have one of the Buds USP .45 trade-in guns and like it as a combat pistol. To put tight holes in paper would take either a ton of practice or a better trigger, but it'll easily shoot minute of bad guy at 25 yards with no practice. The gun fits my hands well, long skinny fingers, and points naturally. For me, it's a keeper.

10-Ring
May 3, 2009, 09:35 PM
Great guns. Accurate, reliable, durable -- what more can you ask for?
I have one w/ almost 40k rounds through it and an Expert w/ almost 25k through it

Maverick223
May 3, 2009, 09:47 PM
I love mine (a HK Full Size USP .45ACP). I can honestly say that I haven't had a single failure in over 5,000 rounds (EDIT: no failures of any kind at all with any ammo - >5k rnds total since birth). IMHO it is best pistol made and is more reliable and durable than many revolvers. It is rather large, especially in girth, but very comfortable and accurate to shoot. It is however NOT an ideal CC weapon in the full size configuration. I am considering getting a P2000 Compact in .357Sig or 9mm for winter carry as they are much smaller (and the .45 compact doesn't have sufficient capacity).

S&W-Keeper
May 3, 2009, 11:10 PM
I have one and love it, I have Sigs, Glocks, Browning's, and S&W's, every one has jammed or misfed at least once but not the H&K.It also has a bad habit of shooting in the same hole. Mine is very accurate.

Maverick223
May 3, 2009, 11:24 PM
but not the H&K.It also has a bad habit of shooting in the same hole
I have the same issues with mine...you cant tell exactly how durable it is because it won't cause a case head separation, and you have difficulty determining the accuracy because it always shoots in the same hole. Ahhh, HKs suck. :neener:

PO2Hammer
May 4, 2009, 10:57 AM
I had the USP .45. If I could reach the safety better I would still own it today.

I used to load jacketed SWC loads for it and it was amazing out to 50 yards.

I traded it in on a Glock 30 because I struggled with the location of the safety, I had to reach too far back with my thumb.

The Glock 30 is fine, but it won't cycle SWC's like the USP.

The USP .45 is one of very few handguns I've owned that never failed for any reason in any way.

When I get off the unempolyment line, I'm going to get the new HK45.

D-Man
May 4, 2009, 11:12 AM
I never shot one, but was looking at buying one and just couldn't get a good grip on it. Even though I didn't need a CCW, I picked up the HK45c which feels and shoots great.

Make sure you can grip it OK before buying.

pogo2
May 4, 2009, 12:57 PM
I bought a slightly used USP45 about 7 years ago and have put about 2000 rounds through it. My observations are:

1. Built like a tank, and is accurate and reliable.
2. Too big for CCW - I use it for range or home defense. It would work for open carry, however.
3. It fits my hand fine - I have large male hands.
4. The DA trigger is heavy and long, the SA trigger is fine for accuracy.
5. Good looking gun.
6. I trust it to work every time, which I can't say for all 45s.
7. The balance and feel of the gun is different than 1911s and requires some practice to learn - but once mastered it is easy to shoot well.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/HKUSP4531.jpg

skeeter_08
May 4, 2009, 01:06 PM
The USP Compact is a terrific little sidearm regardless of caliber - skeeter_08

TIMC
May 4, 2009, 01:18 PM
I have 7 handguns in .45 acp and the USP is the most accurate of the bunch. You do need big hands to comfortably hold the gun but it is very nice if you do. Mine has been 100% reliable since day one.

Rinspeed
May 4, 2009, 01:20 PM
The USPs are great pistols but the full size ones aren't very concealable in the warmer months.

Plan-B
May 4, 2009, 07:25 PM
I bought one used about 5 years ago off of the HKPro forums (actually from HKPro himself). As far as I know, I'm the 3rd owner and have no idea how many rounds have been fired through it, but I don't really care either. I didn't bother to ask, it's a USP after all. I expect it to be the last operational gun that I own a hundred years from now and all my other guns were bought new (yes, I own a Glock too. yes, I expect to be alive 100 years from now). It's a big gun so CCW isn't its strength unless you're an NFL lineman. It has all the aesthetics of an armored truck and the durability of one too. My only criticism is that he trigger isn't as crisp as I'd like it to be.

Gun Slinger
May 4, 2009, 08:06 PM
Three years ago, I bought an HK USP45.

Now, I own three. :D

They are excellent pistols, very accurate and quite durable.

When I "Open Carry", it is the pistol that I carry.

thorazine
May 4, 2009, 09:11 PM
Love them.

Hate the price.


Regarding the trigger:

If you're doing a lot of slow fire shooting -- you'll notice the DA pull.

I'm not a target / bulls eye shooter.

For me it's a quick and deliberate pull of the trigger each and every time.

I don't even notice the difference anymore between DA / SA.

7mmSTW
May 4, 2009, 09:40 PM
I love the USP's, you have the option of Cocked and Locked carry, DA/SA or LEM install. As far as CCW, depends on wardrobe and carry choice but I can and do carry a fullsize USP 40 and HK45 in a concealco IWB under an untucked shirt. Works great for me. Price...it only hurts for a little while, besides I compromised on my first pistol purchase and since have decided worrying over what they cost is a poor deciding factor.

Dumptruck
May 5, 2009, 04:34 AM
Thanks for the info everyone. I plan on carrying it OWB with a loose shirt over it. I wear shorts almost year round (even though I'm in WV) so I can make a loose fitting shirt or hooded sweatshirt work with it.

How is H&K as far as customer service goes? Seems like everyone here would have never had to have dealt with them haha.

ScareyH22A
May 5, 2009, 04:56 AM
It's too over built. No civilian will ever need such a tank of a gun. Unless you're going into battle, get yourself an XD or a Glock. They're almost as reliable.

Hopefully that'll keep you from bidding against me. :p

VINTAGE-SLOTCARS
May 5, 2009, 05:22 AM
Carry one on duty, I trust my life it will function perfect.

Gun Slinger
May 5, 2009, 12:41 PM
How is H&K as far as customer service goes?

Some believe that their "customer service motto" is : "Because you suck and we hate you"

I've never had a problem with them though the few times that I've dealt with them.

:)

krs
May 5, 2009, 02:37 PM
I liked my HK USP .45 enough, but I LOVE my Sig 220.

As far as I'm concerned for the type pistol the Sig 220 sends the rest to their rooms with no dinner.

paratroop23
May 5, 2009, 07:56 PM
I have the following.......

USPc .45
USPf .45
USPf .40
HK P30

All of which are outstanding pistols! I carry the full size USPs during the winter with a jacket or large sweat shirt, because it is a large framed pistol. I carry the compact USP as my primary CCW. I have absolutely no problem concealing it using my CTAC inside the waistband holster. I rotate the P30 (9mm) into my CCW rotation every now and then, but I just love my .45s!!

I would recommend buying one!! CDNN is probably the best place to find one at a reasonable price.

By the way, the HK45 and HK45c are the supposed to be "upgrades" to the USP line. I wanted to buy the HK45, but in these times rifles and ammo come first.

HKGuns
May 5, 2009, 11:28 PM
I have a USP .45C and can think of nothing bad to say about them. I would consider the .45C over the full size if concealment is your desired purpose.

Edited to add. I've never had to deal with their customer service on any of my HK firearms.

Tim L
May 6, 2009, 12:20 AM
I had to deal with their customer service last year and was really dreading it, all the stories from the internet really had me concerned. It was not a big deal, total there and back was 2 weeks. It took 2 calls, I forgot to leave my name the first time, they called back after the second call.

flinch
May 6, 2009, 08:15 PM
It is a large accurate and reliable gun. Mags are $$$. I have a XD 4" I like better. A much better grip and just as reliable and accurate. I think the XD is a softer shooter too.

Big Daddy Grim
May 6, 2009, 08:19 PM
One of my most accurate guns excellent shooter and has never failed me I love mine very much.

edelbrock
May 6, 2009, 08:27 PM
Shot a couple of thousand rounds through my USPf .40. Great gun. I want to pick up a USP .45 too.

Hawaiian
May 7, 2009, 11:08 PM
I looked at the full sized HK45 and it was just too big for my small hands and also larger than I care to carry. Hearing this the guy and the gun store pulled out the compact model, HK45c. It molded right into my hand and I knew right then that it was going home with me. 2000 rounds later and carried in a Sparks VMII, it is my favorite carry gun. My G19 is collecting dust. And I never thought that would ever ever happen.

Legasat
May 8, 2009, 02:35 AM
Great gun! Horrible Customer Service...

lykoris
May 8, 2009, 04:20 AM
why not consider the HK45 & HK45c also in addition to the HK USP variants?

amkus
May 9, 2009, 04:39 AM
This scene always made me want a USP. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKR6evZRQQ

He seems to conceal it just fine, too.

7mmSTW
May 9, 2009, 10:08 AM
Customer Service was great when I had my USP converted to the Combat Competition trigger. Turned it around in a matter of days. If you're LE they bring your stuff to the front of the line. I think all I had to do was send a picture of my comission card.

Comedian
May 9, 2009, 10:28 AM
Although there are a few bad stories of H&K customer service, my experience with them was brief and pleasant. I'll second what everyone else here has said with regards to the size of the USP and the double action trigger. Although I know people who do carry a full size USP concealed I personally couldn't pull it off (I carry the compact version). The double action trigger, while not the worst trigger in world, certainly isn't as good as it could be. It is indeed heavy and kind of spongy. However, I only the single action mode so it really doesn't matter how good the D/A is.

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