[WheelMan]

I was sitting here watching Law & Order: SVU on NBC.

Apperently the female attourney was being threatened by some sort of big time drug dealer. That's not the neat bit. After a car bomb blew up a DEA agent a police officer gave her his old service revolver and "expedited" a CCW permit for her.

That's about as near as TV gets to an endorsement of self defense with a firearm. I was impressed.

[bigjim]

Don't be. The law and Order TV show is some of the most vile anti-gun crap ever filmed!

If they did get a permit for one of the ruling class it was just to make the point that the rest of can't be trusted.

When ever they use the " Crime lab the stupid anti-gun myths are enough to make you puke.

[JDSlack]

I admit to watching the show, and it's various spin-offs. But the anti-gun stuff and anti-self-defense stuff gets deep at times. On one they were checking a suspect and mentioned that he "had an arsenal" in his apartment. Later it turned out he owned 5 guns! Great jumping Jehosephat, I hope they never come by my place!

[WheelMan]

hey, a positive message about CCL from a commie TV show is still a positive message about CCL. :P

[Norton]

I was checking out that new show about the NCIS that was on last night. For those who haven't seen it, it's a cross between JAG and Law and Order. Not a great show, as it turns out, but during an interview Mark Harmon asks a young Naval officer about a sword that he owns and whether he likes swords.

The officer responds with something to the effect of, " I like all weapons, especially an HK MP5." I recall that he messed up the whole delivery....a bunch of gun related terms, but the syntax was all wrong.

[Futo Inu]

Dick Wolf, the creator of L&O, is an outspoken rabid anti-gunner. Dunno if he produces all the spinoffs or not. Having said that, I admit that I think the original series is frankly, an awesome show. I hate the fact that something so good came from an anti-gunner. :(

That's a decent self-defense message, but it mixed, because it also sends the message that the elite of society should get special treatment (i.e. the "expedited" process helped along by an LEO - Grrr).

[El Tejon]

Why would an ADA need a permit??? Is LE subject to the Sullivan Law there in New York/New York City?:confused:

Was that the cute baby-faced blonde? I think special guest star El Tejon as himself would keep her safe (maybe over candlelight). :D

[mtnbkr]

Did you notice that when he was getting the gun out for her, he pointed it straight at her?

I watched a few minutes and went back to reading Stephen King's Dark Tower series (lots of proper gun handling there).

Chris

[dinosaur]

The best, or worst if you will, of L&O, SUV:evil: was Munch telling everyone that Black Talons will break up so that the ballistics can`t be traced back to the manufacturer. :rolleyes: And I like Belzer.:what: Wotta Shmuck!

[crawfordew]

Somewhere on the 'net I remember reading that the archetypical L&O episode would be an angry white male reciting the second amendment while disembowling a poor minority child.
gino :D

[Balog]

Somewhere on the 'net I remember reading that the archetypical L&O episode would be an angry white male reciting the second amendment while disembowling a poor minority child.

I've watched the show every chance I get for years, and this doesn't describe anything even remotely like what they do. Not defending it, but that is inacurrate.

[HankB]

that new show about the NCIS that was on last night . . . The officer . . . messed up the whole delivery....a bunch of gun related terms, but the syntax was all wrong. I saw the show, too. How about when one of the officers was asked about whether or not enlisted men could have swords on ship? The response was something along the lines of "Armed enlisted men on a warship? That would be crazy!" :rolleyes:

[Mike Irwin]

Big question is just how in the hell does a DEA Agent expedite a CCW for someone who is an officer of a city court system?

Answer, I don't think he can.

If I'm not mistaken, an officer of the court in New York asks the presiding judge, the chief officer of the court, to issue a permit.

My former father-in-law, a city judge in White Plains, New York, had a carry permit issued by the presiding judge.

[Mike Irwin]

"I've watched the show every chance I get for years, and this doesn't describe anything even remotely like what they do. Not defending it, but that is inacurrate."

The part of about the child is inaccurate, but one episode a few years ago did revolve around a white man, angry at blacks moving into his community, taking a shotgun to a number of them.

In the end, he tried it one last time and was killed by a young black girl who was carrying a revolver.

Mixed messages, there.


There was also the episode that centered around converting a semi-auto carbine to a submachine gun with a kit of parts easily available at gun shows. McCoy tried to charge the president of the company that made the gun with murder.

No doubt about this one, it was a slam on gun makers, gun shows, and semi-automatics.

[bountyhunter]

On one episode of Boston Public a school teacher who was being stalked went to a licensed FFL gun dealer and sweet talked him into letting her walk out with the gun on the spot. Sure..... I believe he'd jeopardize his license and spend about 15 years in prison because some chick he just met batted her eyes.

On the "Practice" one of the attorney ladies (who plays the DA) smoked a looney toon on the show one night with a gun. Of course, Linsey Dole who is a lady defense attorney killed a nut who was stalking her and got tried for murder: message: only police or their agents have the right to self defense.

[Mastrogiacomo]

I saw the episode where Benson asked a guy about how many guns he had and heard that anti-gun remark. I have about the same amount of guns I think now so boy -- that makes me radical? Anyway, it's a TV show that I'm sure reflects liberal Hollywood. I still love watching it regardless. Anything with Jane Mansfield's little girl can't be that bad....:cool:

[Jason Demond]

I watched a few minutes and went back to reading Stephen King's Dark Tower series (lots of proper gun handling there).

Not to piddle in your cornflakes, but Stephen King is one of the biggest anti-gun blowhards, I have ever seen.

[Mastrogiacomo]

Well, I only have read and own one book of his -- ON WRITING. It was a good read but I'm not much of a fan of his other books. If I'm that interested, I'll pick up in the library rather than spend my money.

[Holly76201]

El T.
maybe it's b/c you're offering to be Alex's bodyguard that the Marshall's service took her to a safe house. :neener:

[mtnbkr]

Not to piddle in your cornflakes, but Stephen King is one of the biggest anti-gun blowhards, I have ever seen.

I thought that was the case. However, the gun related scenes in these books tend to reflect reality better than most.

Chris

[spacemanspiff]

the gunslinger characters may have skills when it comes to shooting, but only roland executes the tac reloads and whatnot. the other three are still green when it comes to firearms.
and his depiction of them is written painfully. 'eddie pulled the ruger from his waistband, and thumbed the safety off.........he thumbed the safety on and shoved the ruger back into his pants....."

dont get me wrong, i like the dark tower series, but not for the gunplay. its the story of roland that has me hooked.

[another48hrs]

I saw an episode of SVU where they went to go investigate a firearm owned by a nurse and asked to see it. She pulled it out of her purse and they mentioned about it being a concealed weapon. Then she told them about it doing more good being on her when she gets off work at 2am in the morning and has to walk home than letting it stay in the house. That sure did shut up Richard Belzer's character really quick.

[rock jock]

The original Law & Order is the second best show on TV, right after the Simpsons. I have noticed a decidedly anti-gun bias in the show, but it only crops up now and again and is tolerable for the really great acting, scripting, and producing that makes that show a hit.

[Mike Irwin]

Have to admit that I'm a BIG Stephen King fan. The Stand and Bag of Bones are two incredible works of fiction.

He gets a LOT of gun stuff wrong, though.

In Thinner, written as a Bachman book, he described a 7.62x39 out of an AK as having 140-grains of powder...

[Mastrogiacomo]

If he's anti -- it makes sense he'd get a lot wrong. You'd think being a writer he'd do some research about guns to make his characters sound like old pros....

[tex_n_cal]

Law & Order:

I quit watching it regularly when Angie Harmon left. I can always watch an elegant brunette and Ms. Harmon's about as elegant as women get:D In the episode where the DA is going after a gun manufacturer, she argues, "...what is a woman supposed to do about a six foot five rapist?...", which is a pretty good pro-gun statement.

Her last season, I recall that there was one scene where she's in a conversation, and the camera is set at waist level, looking up at a speaking character - but in the right half of the frame is her bosum in profile. It was a pretty tasteless shot, in a situation that was supposed to be an intellectual drama. I thought at the time she couldn't possibly appreciate the camera angle, and in fact she asked to be let out of her contract not long after that.

[Mike Irwin]

Harmon was cute, but NO ONE on that show has been able to hold a candle to Jill Hennessy...