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kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 8, 2009, 04:56 PM
Got this about a year ago in trade. Don't know anything about it. It is a smooth bore, takes 12 ga wads. I shot it with 60 grs FF and a oz. of 6 shot.
Shoots real well, I would like to know what it is, and who made these?
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/prizzel/SPistolSmallSize.jpg

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DrLaw
May 8, 2009, 06:55 PM
Looks like two home-made pistols with Dixie locks and a Dixie serpentine screwplate, or whatever it is called.

Have you taken them apart yet?

The Doc is out now. :cool:

bigbadgun
May 8, 2009, 06:57 PM
kwhi43
I dont think you want them thar pistols just send them to me.
Those are really nice.

Voodoochile
May 8, 2009, 08:13 PM
Kinda looks like a Wheel lock/Snaphaunce pistol style with a converted from Flint Lock to Percusion Lock & a indian trade trigger & guard arangement.

How well does it patern & handle with that loading?

NobleSniper
May 8, 2009, 08:19 PM
I like it ;)

4v50 Gary
May 11, 2009, 07:03 PM
Dragon sideplate looks like it was originally intended for a Trade Gun. The tacks along the forearm suggests Native American decoration. The trigger guard appears hammered out of sheet metal (ala Trade Gun fashion). The barrel looks like it was salvaged from a musket, and the maker didn't even bother to remove the barrel band. The stock is very unconventional and the maker does not have an eye for proportions. It's either an unschooled or untutored maker or something made really cheap for the African market.

desidog
May 11, 2009, 08:54 PM
Gary put it succinctly.

How is the balance? From looking at it i imagine that it is very muzzle-heavy...and if that were the case i'd be inclined to add a chunk of brass (or handle filled with lead) to the butt to even it up.

If it was mine, i'd be inclined to take the forestock down to a 1/2 stock, which would help the balance and proportions....and either move the tacks or forget them.

While cutting down, you could also make the hole for the ramrod deeper, so it is not proud of the muzzle.

/Just my 2 cents. It looks fun.

PS is that Oak?

armoredman
May 11, 2009, 09:50 PM
That's one gun flipped to show opposite side? Interesting toy, might make a good prop gun for a pirate costume, if you don't feel safe shooting live loads through it.

arcticap
May 11, 2009, 10:43 PM
It reminded me of an original looking pistol that my friend has that looks like it was converted by shortening a musket, so I posted about it.
Maybe it's intended to be a reproduction of a sailor's pistol or a blanket gun?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=449400

Ginormous
May 11, 2009, 11:56 PM
What Is This?

It's a Hilti gun prototype. It drove tapered and notched dowels into log framed homes, before the availability of cheap mass produced nails. Obviously.

desidog
May 12, 2009, 12:20 AM
Ginormous for the win! Awesome post. I'm off to bed laughing.

Ratdog68
May 12, 2009, 12:21 AM
Ginormous... I likes how you think. :D

Benmathes
May 15, 2009, 06:52 PM
Can ya'll tell me how to find Rob Lewis in Ohio? Loved the revolver you showed
thanks!!

Ben

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 16, 2009, 11:30 AM
Number is 513-897-2852. He does real fine work. I have three of his guns.
The revolver, a caplock, and a Flintlock.

Jim K
May 16, 2009, 01:12 PM
Looks to me like something made real cheap as a kit for the primitive estadounidenses who like to play at making guns.

Companies used to make cheap guns for the African trade, but today's Africans want AK-47's and FAL's.

I hope kwhi43 didn't trade too much.

Jim

4v50 Gary
May 16, 2009, 01:54 PM
Good point Jim. Back in the '50s-60s they could get away with cheap guns like that. Not today.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 16, 2009, 09:55 PM
Hey Hey, Don't call my gun cheap. With 75 grs FF and a ounce of shot it
throws a perty good pattern at 20 yds. I got 70.00 in it. Been offered 100
Thinking about having a auction for it.

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