.410 enough gun for Grizzlies??????


October 15, 2003, 02:43 PM
Just reading this gives me the willies........Yee-haw, indeed.



Two aggressive grizzly bears have been shot, one by a hunter and one by a Fortine homeowner.
A Kalispell man shot a stalking grizzly bear in the Swan Mountains and a Fortine man shot a grizzly at close range, narrowly escaping as the bear charged from a chicken coop.

James Beeman picked up a .410-gauge shotgun when he went outside his Fortine-area home to investigate a commotion from his chicken coop around 4 a.m. Sunday.

Wearing a headlamp and expecting a skunk, Beeman saw two bear cubs run from the damaged door of the chicken coop. Then an adult grizzly bear emerged with a chicken in its mouth.

The bear dropped the chicken and charged from 15 feet. Beeman fired, with the muzzle of the gun roughly three feet from the bear, which crumpled to ground, dead at Beeman's feet.

It turned out to be an astounding shot, considering a .410 is a light gun and the shell contained a light load typically used for quail hunting.

But it hit the bear squarely in the nose, the only soft, vulnerable place on a grizzly skull. Pellets likely penetrated the length of the nasal cavity to the brain. The wad from the shell was imbedded in the bear's nose.

"What's the likelihood of that?" said Ed Kelly, Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks warden captain in Kalispell. "I know guys with .375s who couldn't have made a kill like that. He's just a lucky, lucky guy."

Kelly said the shooting was a "justifiable case of self defense."

The bear was a 350-pound female.

Warden Jim Roberts and Tim Manley, the grizzly bear management specialist in Northwest Montana, have been pursuing the bear's two cubs-of-the-year. At one point, the cubs were chased high up a tree, too high to dart with sedatives because of the risk of them being hurt in a fall.

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Bill Hook
October 15, 2003, 02:47 PM
At least use some slugs in that thing!!!

Time to get a .45-70 instead.

October 15, 2003, 02:48 PM
All this time--all I needed was an old H&R shotgun!

October 15, 2003, 02:57 PM
Shot placement Shot placement Shot placement...

October 15, 2003, 03:11 PM
It goes to show the importance of being prepared.

October 15, 2003, 03:34 PM
It goes to show the importance of being lucky, too :)

This time it was the bear who ran into Mr Murphy.

October 15, 2003, 03:47 PM
Used what he had.
And used it to the max.
Including his luck

Now have to calm my single .410 down. It's afraid I'll take it bear huntin.


October 15, 2003, 03:59 PM
Yeah he had a gun, shot placement was , well he had luck. Just wasn't his time. I betcha the next time he uses a bigger gun and something bigger than quail loads when checking out the chicken coop.

On a scale of 1-10...pucker factor had to be ,what...18 ? ;)

October 15, 2003, 05:33 PM
maybe we should pitch in and buy him a .410 saiga

Standing Wolf
October 15, 2003, 05:45 PM

Yep—and luck, too, sometimes.

Silver Bullet
October 15, 2003, 07:12 PM
Yikes! I'm spending a week near Glacier National Park next year.

Note to self: buy quail gun for trip. :)

October 15, 2003, 09:40 PM
If I was him I'd go play $20 on the lottery:what:

October 15, 2003, 10:38 PM
A .410?...grizzley ?...DARK...when it was over I bet he threw up everything but his toe nails! I would! :D

October 15, 2003, 11:37 PM
Where did this story originate? Can you provide a link?

October 16, 2003, 12:03 AM


October 16, 2003, 12:07 AM
:banghead: So I guess I can put away the Redhawk and the 45/70 now. All I need is a .410!!! With 8 shot (what, is that about 3 pieces?)

October 16, 2003, 12:53 AM
Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you!:D :evil:

October 16, 2003, 11:38 AM
"Paw ... I think you need to check your drawers!"

Mark Tyson
October 16, 2003, 11:41 AM
Shot placement Shot placement Shot placement...

I knew that was coming! LOL

I'll be this guy went out and bought a cannon for any future encounters.

October 16, 2003, 03:57 PM
.410 enough gun for Grizzlies??????

Not a theory I am willing to test.

Same as I am not willing to test the theory that a .25ACP is not good for self defense by letting someone shoot me with one.

October 22, 2003, 08:41 AM
Enough for a 350 lb grizzly anyway

That is more like Black Bear size

Great shot though

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