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wickedsprint May 11, 2009, 03:30 AM So...would I be crazy if I wanted to offload all of my guns down to 1 handgun?
I know I enjoyed shooting the most when I was in college and only had one 1911 to feed and clean. That 1 gun was for self defense, truck duty..and woods and range plinker. I could shoot it pretty well and 1911s to this day remain the only guns I am totally comfortable taking down to EVERY small part.
I have a lot of cool guns right now but they are starting to feel more like a pain in the neck..with having to keep them all clean and stored securely and whatnot.
Luckily if I decide to go this route everything I have would sell pretty quickly.
The main argument I come up with against downsizing are any future bans might make it hard to replace it if need be.
Also, say you have a gun you really like and are placed in the crappy situation to have to use it, don't they get taken away for awhile during the investigation?
This is not a closet attempt to pilfer my guns here, I'm deployed right now so even it was, it wouldn't work :)
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Blakenzy May 11, 2009, 03:48 AM Why do you have to go to such an extreme? Just pack the guns in preserving grease, store them in the attic and forget about them until you actually need one. It will be such a pleasant surprise to one day, years later, dig out a firearm you had almost forgotten about entirely. It's not like you are not into guns anymore... right?
ScotZ May 11, 2009, 04:06 AM I guess I would look at your situation differently. I consider each of my guns, friends. Good friends are hard to come by. Just get rid of the ones that you dont consider friends:D
Thank you for your service.
13Bravo May 11, 2009, 04:08 AM From one deployed to another, I wouldn't make any such decision while being wherever it is you are. Things change, and feelings change. I know the things that feel like a burden to me I'd like to do away with. I want those things when I get out of here though. So I keep them, even though I'm here worrying about them, I'll appreciate them when I get home. Thats just me, and I'm a firm believe in "To each their own"
wickedsprint May 11, 2009, 04:28 AM I appreciate the replies, I know lugging around and cleaning guns almost constantly here has definitely lessened my enthusiasm for owning a bunch of my own hahaha.
Even if I make the decision while here, I can't execute it until I get back, they'e locked up in a safe at home with the roomies. So it's not like I'm gonna do anything extreme.
I don't believe in excess , ie if I'm not using something at least every few days..I probably don't need it, and I definitely don't need multiples of it.
13Bravo May 11, 2009, 04:36 AM I personally like the idea of having one of each for whatever situation may arise. I'm not foolish enough to expect something to arise, I'm just a believer in its better to have and not need than to need and not have. You're right on the multiples though. Good luck, man.
Oro May 11, 2009, 04:57 AM if I'm not using something at least every few days..I probably don't need it, and I definitely don't need multiples of it.
Basically, no one can decide for you. People have different values, and you can't let someone else's define yours. For example, some people want things pristine, clean, like new - their cars, their motorcycle, their guns. Others don't care, it's a tool, and they'd rather spend their time reading, hiking, or whatever buy not cleaning "gear" or having money tied up in it. So do what gives you peace of mind.
But seriously, the only caution is if you have any really collectible things, like genuine Colt pre-'80 1911s, Klackamas Kimbers, pre-lock S&Ws, pre-AE Winchester 1894s, a real Colt AR-15, etc., etc. These things will be expensive or hard to replace in the future. More pedestrian guns, no matter how nice, like production Sigs, Glocks, or current Kimbers, etc., are not going to be hard or expensive to replace.
My system the last few years is to buy a gun every month or two, try them, then sell the ones I don't really "love" or have a use for. I totally believe that if you don't really, really like the gun, no matter what others say, sure - unload it/them.
Also, say you have a gun you really like and are placed in the crappy situation to have to use it, don't they get taken away for awhile during the investigation?
Yes, that's a reasonable expectation. I hate to say it, but I was going somewhere today where I felt the need to "go heavy" as Tony S. would say. I actually looked at the Colt in my hand, put it back in the drawer and went and got a Norinco out for that very reason. I do the same thing with revolvers - I have some nice tight, pretty blue ones that I love, and then for carry I'll take the same gun but not as nice a one in stainless with me.
I think it's wise to have at least two handguns, and stored separately. Then, if something happens - theft, loss, seizure, whatever, you aren't in the situation of having to rush out to replace it. I also like the idea of keeping a gun off-property in a good friend or family member's safe.
loop May 11, 2009, 05:17 AM You have to make the call for how it fits you personally.
I really, really want to get rid of about 40 or 50 rifles (don't bother PMing me about them). I have a gun cleaning rotation. Each week I HAVE TO clean about 25 to 30 guns just to get to all of them before the red rust.
I never meant for gun cleaning to become a part time job.
I don't mind handguns. They are relatively small and I can get 10 or 20 in a box and carry it out to the workshop, but rifles mean two, or maybe only one, gun per trip. Just moving them around is a major pain.
The last time I moved it took three hours just to load the rifles onto the truck.
I would welcome the opportunity to scale back, but I still want to keep all my .45 ACPs and collectible handguns and all my black rifles, my hunting rifles, my shotguns...
Aw crap!
I'll still have a lot of guns to clean!
I'm glad Hoppe's and Break Free sell that stuff by the gallon...
Kind of Blued May 11, 2009, 05:32 AM I see no problem with selling guns that you don't want, guns that you don't enjoy, guns that serve no practical purpose, or guns that you generally just don't get excited about when you handle or shoot them.
That said, I can hardly think of a gun that would fit any of those descriptors if it were in my collection.
Here's what I do:
Figure out what you really like. You seem to have done that. For me, its 1911s, practical carry guns, .22LR rifles and pistols, old S&W revolvers, modern military-styled carbines, and nice shotguns.
When I go to the range, I usually limit myself to two, MAYBE three guns; a .22, a 1911, and a carry gun.
Shoot them all, but shoot the .22 the most because I'm poor, and I have the most fun with it anyway. When I get home, I clean the carry gun, because I might have to depend on it. If I feel like it, I'll clean the other one or two. If not, I can clean them tomorrow. Or next week. As long as the guns aren't wet or filled with corrosive junk, they're fine. Nothing will happen if I leave them for a few days.
Most of the time, however, I'll take a carry gun and a .22 rifle. I'll put 500 rounds through the rifle, not touch my carry gun, have a wonderful time, and call it a day.
Cleaning guns doesn't have to take up a lot of your time. The trick is just don't get a dozen of them dirty every time you go to the range!
NC-Mike May 11, 2009, 07:36 AM I see the man's point.
"Stuff" and "things" can be a burden.
JohnBT May 11, 2009, 07:39 AM I think about downsizing sometimes. I'd get a room at a very nice hotel with a good restaurant and travel a bit more.
The downside to selling all of the firearms, ammo, furniture and whatnot is that it would be too much work. I moved my parents to assisted living/nursing 2 years ago and had to clean out their house and then sell it - too, much, work. They'd been married 63 years and had a lot of stuff.
John
wickedsprint May 11, 2009, 08:02 AM I appreciate the replies guys. I'm down to <10 guns..but still enough that I need a safe for when I travel or am at work to feel comfortable. That safe is a 550lb monster that I have to move ever few years as well. If I just had one gun, chances are I could hide it very well when at work or out of the country without the need for a safe. I could probably free up a few grand if I offloaded the majority.
Ideal for me in a drawn down mode would be 1 basic USGI style 1911, either Colt series 80/70/O1918 etc. They're durable, reliable..and if your only gun..cheap to shoot :) Plus they are not evil in very many places law wise, so when I go to California or the like on TDYs I can easily bring it along for some shooting.
I don't own anything collectable...and the only hard one to replace cheaply would be the BHP since they have almost doubled in price if you can even find one...but I certainly don't shoot it much..so why keep it?
I do have a lot of ammo I'd have to pawn off, but that'd prolly also be easy since I'm not looking to gouge anyone when I sell stuff. I'm happy if I get close to what I have in something.
I have a few months to decide.
NC-Mike May 11, 2009, 08:42 AM You should check out the "if you were only allowed 1 rifle and 1 pistol what would they be?" thread. :D
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=384397
Flame Red May 11, 2009, 08:53 AM Thank you for your service! (I don't think anyone mentioned that).
Carl Levitian May 11, 2009, 08:57 AM Wickedsprint, we (the better half and I) did a major downsizing a few years ago. It was the best thing we ever did!!!
We both got rid of a ton of "stuff" that was a burden to have anymore. Exsess furniture, and lots of old clothes, and stuff that would have just been a burden to our kids to clean out and get rid of if something happens to us. She sold off her doll collection she'd had since she was a little girl, her silver anitigue silverware collection, and a ton of other stuff, and I got rid of most of my guns and power tools and fishing gear. We each kept two handguns and two rifles for target shooting. We've been very active shooters for all our lives, and we even met on a pistol range 39 years ago. She kept her Smith and Wesson K22 that she had been shooting that day, also it was a gift from her dad who is no longer with us. He gave it to her for her 18th birthday. She also kept one other revolver for range and house gun duty. Of course I kept the .22 I had been shooting that day as well.
It felt like I had been set free. With only two handguns and two rifles each to worry about, the gun safe was sold off, and the guns hidden in safe places. If we travel, the guns are where no burgler will ever look, and we each take one handgun with us.
Since I gave up hunting 25 years ago, I had no need of those center fire rifles that were expensive to shoot. They all went. A .22 target rifle punches a hole just as well as a .308. I kept a basic fishing kit like I had when I was a kid, and I still catch my share.
Posessions can get to the point where they weight you down like a ball and chain. Our house is no more sparely furnished, and I don't have any trouble finding anything anymore. I don't have to make any choices of what to shoot that day. In fact, since we've got rid of most of our guns, our shooting has gotten better. No more taking 4 different handguns to the range. if I were you, I'd get rid of everything but the .45, and buy a .22 conversion for it. That will cover all your bases. Maybe have a second gun as a backup, but thats it. One of your guns shold be a .22 or have a conversion kit for your center fire.
Looking back on the past 40 something years years of buying guns I didn't really need exept for ego stroking, I regret buying most of them. I enjoy shooting now morebthan ever, with only those two handguns anf two rifles. The only upside was, that I did make money on some of them. But some T-bills would have done that as well, considering the amount of decades I had some of those guns.
Oh, the money we got for the stuff? We tossed the camping gear in the car and took a month long road trip counter clockwise around the country, going to all the places we'd put off seeing because money was a little tight raising three kids. Now as empty nesters, we had the time and money for the wifey and me to have a second honeymoon. We went to Badlands, Custer National park, Yellowstone, Brice, Grand Canyon, Arches, Canyonlands, and had the time of our lives.
As for the guns I sold off? I don't miss them at all. I'm not a young man anymore, and I don't need to have the bragging rights. Nor do I read any of those gun magazines that fuel a artificially driven market. I have a couple of great guns to shoot, thats enough to keep this old fart happy. And since we're retired, we shoot twice a week, and go through a 550 round bulk box of Federals a range trip.
Go ahead and downsize. You'll feel great later. Somehow our grandfathers got by with one, soometimes two guns. It's only been in the last 25 years the latest generation with more disposable income that their parents ever had, have been so materailistic that they bury themselves with stuff they don't need.
wickedsprint May 11, 2009, 08:58 AM Thanks for that. Sometimes I feel guilty when people thank me though since I have not sacrificed nearly as much as many I see. I have it pretty cush over here..as evidenced by my freetime to post messages :)
Mr. Levitian, you make perfect sense. I even remember when I was in college and I picked up a second 1911,I felt bogged down then too hahaha. I think simple is the way to go.
welldoya May 11, 2009, 09:34 AM Carl Levitian, THAT was a great post. I've been trying to get up the nerve to do that myself. I wouldn't go to the extreme you did but I've often thought it would be nice to get down to about 10 or so guns.
Of course, if I did, I would have to stop going to these gun forums because everytime there was a thread hyping the virtues of this or that gun, I would miss mine.
One of my biggest problems is I expect to get what something is worth. If I can't sell something for close to what I paid, (assuming I got a good deal in the first place) I would just as soon let it sit on the shelf in case I might need it one day.
Funderb May 11, 2009, 09:52 AM be gentle. Some guns don't take breakups very well, and will keep calling, and when you don't answer, they will come to your house to "make sure you are still alive". If any of them start exhibiting erratic behavior, be sure to notify someone immediately..
wait a minute, am I talking about guns still?
:neener:
but really, if you just like one thing then heck. do it. keep the cash in case you just have to buy a couple friends for the one, and lots of ammo.
NC-Mike May 11, 2009, 10:01 AM Wickedsprint, we (the better half and I) did a major downsizing a few years ago. It was the best thing we ever did!!!
We both got rid of a ton of "stuff" that was a burden to have anymore. Exsess furniture, and lots of old clothes, and stuff that would have just been a burden to our kids to clean out and get rid of if something happens to us. She sold off her doll collection she'd had since she was a little girl, her silver anitigue silverware collection, and a ton of other stuff, and I got rid of most of my guns and power tools and fishing gear. We each kept two handguns and two rifles for target shooting. We've been very active shooters for all our lives, and we even met on a pistol range 39 years ago. She kept her Smith and Wesson K22 that she had been shooting that day, also it was a gift from her dad who is no longer with us. He gave it to her for her 18th birthday. She also kept one other revolver for range and house gun duty. Of course I kept the .22 I had been shooting that day as well.
It felt like I had been set free. With only two handguns and two rifles each to worry about, the gun safe was sold off, and the guns hidden in safe places. If we travel, the guns are where no burgler will ever look, and we each take one handgun with us.
Since I gave up hunting 25 years ago, I had no need of those center fire rifles that were expensive to shoot. They all went. A .22 target rifle punches a hole just as well as a .308. I kept a basic fishing kit like I had when I was a kid, and I still catch my share.
Posessions can get to the point where they weight you down like a ball and chain. Our house is no more sparely furnished, and I don't have any trouble finding anything anymore. I don't have to make any choices of what to shoot that day. In fact, since we've got rid of most of our guns, our shooting has gotten better. No more taking 4 different handguns to the range. if I were you, I'd get rid of everything but the .45, and buy a .22 conversion for it. That will cover all your bases. Maybe have a second gun as a backup, but thats it. One of your guns shold be a .22 or have a conversion kit for your center fire.
Looking back on the past 40 something years years of buying guns I didn't really need exept for ego stroking, I regret buying most of them. I enjoy shooting now morebthan ever, with only those two handguns anf two rifles. The only upside was, that I did make money on some of them. But some T-bills would have done that as well, considering the amount of decades I had some of those guns.
Oh, the money we got for the stuff? We tossed the camping gear in the car and took a month long road trip counter clockwise around the country, going to all the places we'd put off seeing because money was a little tight raising three kids. Now as empty nesters, we had the time and money for the wifey and me to have a second honeymoon. We went to Badlands, Custer National park, Yellowstone, Brice, Grand Canyon, Arches, Canyonlands, and had the time of our lives.
As for the guns I sold off? I don't miss them at all. I'm not a young man anymore, and I don't need to have the bragging rights. Nor do I read any of those gun magazines that fuel a artificially driven market. I have a couple of great guns to shoot, thats enough to keep this old fart happy. And since we're retired, we shoot twice a week, and go through a 550 round bulk box of Federals a range trip.
Go ahead and downsize. You'll feel great later. Somehow our grandfathers got by with one, soometimes two guns. It's only been in the last 25 years the latest generation with more disposable income that their parents ever had, have been so materailistic that they bury themselves with stuff they don't need.
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Trebor May 11, 2009, 10:38 AM The risks of downsizing are:
1. You are likely to regret selling a specific gun later when you regain in an interest in that gun or the type of shooting you would need that gun to do.
2. You might not be able to replace the gun in the future due to a change in the law.
3. The gun might still be legal to buy in the future, but you might not be able to find one for sale or might not be able to afford it if the prices go up.
Personally, I would advise against downsizing that drastically unless you absolutely have to.
Now, if there is a gun that you plain don't like, sure, get rid of it. That does happen and no reason to clutter up your safe with something you just don't enjoy shooting.
But, for the rest, you'll find your tastes and interests change and something that you are bored with now may be something you'll have great interest in the future when you "rediscover" that gun or type of shooting.
Here's another thought: Instead of "downsizing" have you thought of "upgrading?"
If you were going the "quanitity over quality" route you could start buying higher end guns that fill specific niches and sell off your current lower end guns to fund the new purchases. You'd wind up with fewer guns of better quality.
I'm talking about replacing a SKS and a WASR AK with a single good AR or replacing a Maverick 88 with a Mossberg 500. That sort of thing.
Obviously, if you already have higher end guns that doesn't apply to you, but since I don't know what kind of guns you have, I thought I'd make the suggestion.
One last thought: If you do decide to go to "just one gun" you still should *two* of that gun. A spare is a *very* nice thing to have.
Guns do break or get damaged or get stolen. If you decide on just owning a 1911 I'd say get a second 1911 as a spare and make one your primary and one your spare. Leave the spare at home most of the time, but if the primary breaks, you can use the spare until it's repaired. Or if the primary is stolen from your car or something, you still have the spare.
Another advantage of keeping a spare is that if you decide to get a .22 conversion kit for your 1911 you could put it on the spare and leave it on, more or less, all the time. That would give you a cheap to shoot .22 that handles the same as your .45. And if your .45 breaks or is stolen, just take the .22 kit off the spare gun and use it as a .45.
Keeping, storing, and moving two guns won't be any harder really then keeping just one gun.
weisse52 May 11, 2009, 11:35 AM Carl Levitian, THAT was a great post.
The wife and myself have moved three times in three years. Now in reality it was moving from a house in one city to our house in another state and then back, then forth. We have downsized because we really did not want or need to hang on to so much stuff. It does make your life alot easier to deal with when you do not have so much "stuff" to keep track of and maintain.
I have also downsized on some of my toys and yes, even on my guns. But for me downsizing was a matter of getting down to the brands and styles that I liked best.
That means I am down to only certain types of pistols, but I have multiples of each.
I have hung on to a collectable or two, but rifles are gone, have one shotgun. Each person makes his own decisions, you do what you think is best and enjoy your decision.
Remember, one is none and two is one.....
But really, who can own just one 1911? :neener:
noskilz May 11, 2009, 11:36 AM In fact, since we've got rid of most of our guns, our shooting has gotten better.
Be wary of the shooter with one gun . . .
NC-Mike May 11, 2009, 11:41 AM "Beware of the man who owns only one rifle as he likely knows how to use it"
I've been contemplating that truism for some time now. I've been wondering what is "my rifle." What would I grab if I had to go get "my rifle" and do I even know any of them well enough to be "my rifle?"
I decided to remove all doubt and my PSL-54C has become "my rifle." I see it as a poor man's M1A but just as effective. If I had to keep just one of my rifles, that would be the one.
larry_minn May 11, 2009, 11:49 AM Maybe you should look at a MINOR reduction first. Say 10% of your collection. So if you have 20 guns pick the two you have not shot in yrs, don't really plan to. Put everything that is ment just for them. (i.e. if wildcat caliber/you don't have anything else that uses mags/ammo include that) Then sell those. (I hate finding ammo/accessories that were made for A gun that I forgot to include in sale)
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow May 11, 2009, 11:50 AM So...would I be crazy if I wanted to offload all of my guns down to 1 handgun?
Yes, yes, you would. If you get down to one gun, it should be a longgun.
BUT, getting down to one handgun, one or two rifles, and one shotgun would not be overly crazy, and in fact, I'm contemplating doing so myself, and it would unburden you as some have indicated.
As an intermediate step, I'm trying to figure out how I can pare down to the following, without undue separation anxiety:
1. One .22lr rifle - all-purpose rimfire (.22lr), highly customized: Action-turnbolt. Stock-folding w/ p-grip. Barrel: 1 in 9" twist SBR (10-12"), threaded. Suppresor attached. Optimized for Aguila SSS.
2. One magnum rimfire rifle - fun range gun in .17 HMR (although this one may have to go, too)
3. Two centerfire hunting rifles: One all-purpose Non-PC hunter in .260 rem (semi-auto for both self-defense & hunting), and one for PC Hunting & very large game (turnbolt, probably in 9.3x62mm, but possibly .30-06)
4. One "special /tactical" centerfire rifle, .338 spectre, highly customized: Action-turnbolt. Stock-folding w/p-grip. Barrel- 1 in 6.5" twist SBR (12-14"), threaded. Suppressor attached.
5. One home defense shotgun (although this one and the hunting shotgun will probably be combined into one)
6. One all-purpose hunting shotgun (a 22"-24" semi-auto 12 ga probably)
7. Two concealed carry / home defense handguns (one deep concealment, and one for OWB or IWB)
8. One precision .223 for varmints and fun range shoot / noob induction
9. One fun centerfire handgun (probably a revolver in .45 colt or .454 casull)(this may have to go, too)
10. Long-range heavy precision turnbolt, probably in 6.5mm-06, but possibly 6.5-284 norma. (and this one may also have to go, in this case before I get it)
11. One pickup truck handgun (though this may have to go, too).
This gets me down to between and 8 and 13 guns, depending on the specific choices and difficulty in separating myself from. Definitely veering toward the "fewer high quality, high-familiarity" guns philosophy as I get older. Much more manageable figure.
Good thread.
welldoya May 11, 2009, 12:05 PM I've often thought that I would probably be a better shot if I just owned a couple of handguns. All guns shoot differently and if I concentrated on 2 or 3, I would probably get a lot better with those guns. Makes sense to me.
wickedsprint May 11, 2009, 12:22 PM The risks of downsizing are:
1. You are likely to regret selling a specific gun later when you regain in an interest in that gun or the type of shooting you would need that gun to do.
2. You might not be able to replace the gun in the future due to a change in the law.
3. The gun might still be legal to buy in the future, but you might not be able to find one for sale or might not be able to afford it if the prices go up.
Personally, I would advise against downsizing that drastically unless you absolutely have to.
Now, if there is a gun that you plain don't like, sure, get rid of it. That does happen and no reason to clutter up your safe with something you just don't enjoy shooting.
But, for the rest, you'll find your tastes and interests change and something that you are bored with now may be something you'll have great interest in the future when you "rediscover" that gun or type of shooting.
Here's another thought: Instead of "downsizing" have you thought of "upgrading?"
If you were going the "quanitity over quality" route you could start buying higher end guns that fill specific niches and sell off your current lower end guns to fund the new purchases. You'd wind up with fewer guns of better quality.
I'm talking about replacing a SKS and a WASR AK with a single good AR or replacing a Maverick 88 with a Mossberg 500. That sort of thing.
Obviously, if you already have higher end guns that doesn't apply to you, but since I don't know what kind of guns you have, I thought I'd make the suggestion.
One last thought: If you do decide to go to "just one gun" you still should *two* of that gun. A spare is a *very* nice thing to have.
Also some excellent points, especially with the spare.
Current guns cover all the niches pretty well and they are all walmart calibers...which I prefer
Due to uncertainty of future laws holding on to the ones I really like makes more sense than getting down to just "1". If I knew I'd always be able to replace the ones I wear out or break it'd be a different story. I do think some pretty serious downsizing will be in order though...but not to the extreme I mentioned earlier.
22-rimfire May 11, 2009, 09:40 PM I can see downsizing because of moving a lot or to recoup some of the money tied up in all the firearms. To that end, to each his own. I will eventually downsize as well.
I don't have a severe need to handle every firearm I own weekly. All are stored under pretty good conditions. I wipe them off with oil about once a year. If I shoot them, they get at least wiped off with oil.
My thought is you clean your guns too much. More than likely if you threw them in a sock drawer or the closet and left them for 10 years, they would look exactly the way you left them.
I had a storage problem with clothing in my house. Closets were FULL. Dressers were FULL. Stuff got hidden unintentionally. A while back I dug through things and sorted stuff. I discovered I have shirts that are 20 years old. I discovered that I have more jeans than I ever realized; maybe 20-25 pair and those are the ones that fit. The ones that are too small got dropped off at the Salvation Army. Some still had the tags on them. So a little organization and thought about what you really need or want, could go a long way to downsizing your firearms. I sometimes wish I could just drop guns off at the Salvation Army. I won't miss the donated clothing, and I probably wouldn't miss sold off guns. I'm just not quite there yet with firearms....
hunter25 May 11, 2009, 09:53 PM If it helps some of what I have and don't use is kept or purchased in the hopes my children or soon to come grandchildren will be able to have something that may not be available later.
NC-Mike May 11, 2009, 10:04 PM If it helps some of what I have and don't use is kept or purchased in the hopes my children or soon to come grandchildren will be able to have something that may not be available later.
That is something to consider. Good point.
mnrivrat May 11, 2009, 10:47 PM The OP's question brought up two thoughts in my case.
First was the guns I used to own, and can no longer aford to replace. Guns, like Colt Diamonback .22 , High-Standard Victor, custom Colt Cammander, Anzultz rifle , etc are now way out of my reach. I sold them along the way for reasons that made sense at the time perhaps, but it is hard to be without some of them now.
Second is the way that the years change ones opinions, and likes , and dislikes. Those things that fell from grace over the years always seem to come back in favor with me as time goes on.
Sell whatever you need to, and whatever you want to, just keep in mind that you may not always have the means to replace what is gone, and you may realy get a craving for what you once had.
230RN May 12, 2009, 02:14 AM With one single lone exception, I never got rid of a gun I didn't regret disposing of.
Although I don't shoot that much anymore except for CCW practice at an indoor range, they're still nice to have around if for nothing else, references when a question comes up or I read something about one I have.
I've been through hard times and good times, and I can tell you for sure and true, "financial security" can evaporate in a week. It sure is handy to be able to make a house payment or whatever by a quick sale. Haven't had to do that for a couple of decades, but still...
Now, old computer and radio equipment, on the other hand... I don't think any of it was designed in 1911. At least nothing that's still in use every day.
Terry, 230RN
wickedsprint May 23, 2009, 07:30 AM Again, thank you guys for the replies.
Some of the "mergers" I am considering.
Sell the Commercial M9, Walther P38/1 and Glock 21 to finance another nice Colt 1911 variant.
This would leave me with 2 1911s and a BHP as my sole handguns. I figure if I own a 9mm I can't go wrong with an all steel BHP as my only one.
Sell the scoped Remington 700 in .243 and AR15 and Mossberg 18.5" to finance a nice Iron sighted rifle likely a Savage in 308/30-06 or maybe go overboard with a Kevlar stocked CZ550 in .375 H&H. I have a love affair with this cartridge and rifle. Ammo is spendy, but if my only centerfire not a huge deal. This rifle category may get skipped all together.
Keep BHP MK III
Keep the Colt 1991A1
Keep the Marlin 39A
End result would be 3 nice handguns and two nice rifles if I pick up the CZ.
peyton May 23, 2009, 09:15 AM List your items here, we will give them good homes!!
22-rimfire May 23, 2009, 09:41 AM I sense that your definition of "a lot of guns" and mine are "a lot" different.
Saving firearms for grand kids sounds like a nice thing to do. But half the time, the grand kids are not even interested in guns or shooting. I look at the kids and grandkids of my parents and only two of the kids have more than a passing interest in firearms. (I'm one of them.) The grand kids have zero interest in guns (so far). Most just see $$ when they look at a nice firearm. I find that sad.
I didn't grow up with a lot of money for toys. There was no father or grandfather who waved guns in my face and said "You want this?" I wish there was, but honestly, I doubt I would have really appreciated it as much as my father or grandfather thought I should. If they gave me guns now, most would be just guns. Nothing more. I own far nicer guns.
Why is this? Simple. I bought my own guns that I needed and wanted in my teens. Dad had his own that he used. There were no Grand Fathers past age 6 or 7. They had all passed on.
If something is special to you and you eventually want to leave it to a child or grandchild, that's fine. I would do it too. But I own nothing that special. Expensive yes, but special, no.
So, intelligently downsizing an accumulation is not a bad thing to do especially when you have put as much thought into it as you have. I believe you are on the right track and the guns you are planning on selling are not likely guns you shoot anyway.
In the past when I decided to sell guns, I usually ended up with more than I started with. :)
wickedsprint May 23, 2009, 11:30 AM List your items here, we will give them good homes!!
I don't get back from Iraq for a few more months so I can't do anything at the moment. Roomie has first dibs though. :)
wickedsprint June 15, 2009, 12:09 PM Another motivator is hearing all of these crazy prices for ammunition. This is starting to become an expensive hobby!
BBQLS1 June 15, 2009, 12:13 PM I'd want a spare. Other than that, I don't see the problem.
fatelk June 15, 2009, 12:52 PM Some great posts here. I've been thinking the same things, from both sides.
All your stuff can really bog you down. I feel a sense of relief whenever I sell something I don't need. Some guns I'll never sell, like my Grandpa's .45 ('47 commercial Colt), or the Mossberg .22 he gave me when I was a kid, but most of the others could find a new home and I would feel good about it.
I have several nice hunting rifles, but haven't hunted in over a decade. I have handguns that haven't been fired in almost that long.
I may be forced to dramatically downsize soon, if I don't find a job (seven months and counting). On top of that my three year old son has some health problems.
At the same time I'm glad I have guns I can sell now, as we need the money. It's a pretty good "rainy day" account, and it's really raining right now!
Deckard June 15, 2009, 01:18 PM This would leave me with 2 1911s and a BHP as my sole handguns. You can't really go wrong with the fine work of JMB. And +1 for the CZ550 too.
Garndawg June 15, 2009, 03:53 PM I'll play...
Although I drool over certain things as much as any, my practical side just won't let me buy something that'll sit in a safe for me to take out and look at every blue moon or so. Blame my upbringing (Mom a retired CPA...)...
Here's my list (current)
Handguns:
Colt XSE LW Commander (Stainless)
S&W Model 65 (wife's HD, loaded with 38+P)
S&W 642 (my CCW)
S&W Model 10-5 (was wife's, now on the chopping block, see Swap'n'sell!)
Long Guns:
Mid 60's Auto-5 12ga
Mid 60's Rem 760 in 30.06
Mid 60's T/C Hawken 50cal
Almost new Ruger 77/22lr
All the long guns, save the ruger, were hand-me-down's from my dad and WILL not be going anywhere. There's a bow in there, too. Basically, I've got a weapon for every season, and use the short ones for HD and personal carry.
Right now, I'm trying to talk myself into selling the XSE, as I bought it as a CCW and NEVER carry it. The 642 always seems to make it into my pocket instead...
wickedsprint June 16, 2009, 08:32 AM Fatelk, I'm sorry to hear about your son, he'll be in my prayers.
Garwndawg, I think your XSE would sell really quickly, dunno about the others, don't know much about em.
I'm not going to make any snap judgments while here...but I have a couple of future projects coming up, namely building an airplane that will take up most of my time and funds.
Current collection.
*Colt 1991A1 Blued - definite Keep..nicest Colt I have ever owned or handled
*BHP MKIII 9mm - most likely keep
*Walther P38/P1 9mm - neat gun but don't shoot it much..would not feel guilty selling
*Remington 700 SPS stainless .243 w/ Leupold scope - accurate as heck, might feel guilty to let go..most likely keep
*Marlin 39A 22LR - neat..but not gonna drive 30 mins to shoot a 22..would keep if I had a lot of land I could shoot on
*Beretta M9 9mm - iconic 9mm...might keep to train fellow military peeps that can't shoot..otherwise no attachment...sell if I move to california
*Glock 21 .45 - on the fence..one of the best camping or hiking handguns made..likely keep..sell if I move to california
*Mossberg 500 w/pistol grip - slightly ridiculous..cool factor only..likely hard to sell
*Rock River Arms 16" mid length HBAR flat top w/ ARMS 40L BUIS - most likely sell
wickedsprint June 26, 2009, 03:29 PM OK, I came to my senses, even if I sold all of them off I'd still be less than a paycheck or two and eventually I'd buy something else dumb with that money and wish I had the guns back. :) I might be more picky over future purchases and trades though.
ezypikns June 26, 2009, 03:58 PM I have regretted the sale of any of mine.
SuperNaut June 26, 2009, 03:58 PM If you were going the "quantity over quality" route you could start buying higher end guns that fill specific niches and sell off your current lower end guns to fund the new purchases. You'd wind up with fewer guns of better quality.
This is the route I decided to take a few years ago. It meant I had to sell a bunch of guns, but it also meant I got to buy a couple of guns I'd never previously considered in my price range.
I'm now down to a half-dozen pistols, a couple of carbines, a couple of long-range rifles, and a couple of shotguns. I discovered the same thing that Carl Levitian so sagely mentioned earlier; I shoot more, enjoy it more, and I feel unencumbered.
I'm not a collector, so I stopped collecting. ;)
Eyesac June 26, 2009, 05:32 PM If you collect stamps and you don't want to collect stamps anymore, sell em. Keep a couple you can't live without, and move on to something else.
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