Hot brass burn - OUCH!
Molly
October 15, 2003, 09:33 PM
Look what a .22LR shell did to my when it ejected and snuck through the top of my shooting glasses. I never would have imagined 22 brass would get so hot! BTW it came from my BuckMark, and bounced off of the wall back at me. OUCH!
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Pheonix
October 15, 2003, 09:35 PM
My 6 yr old went to 1st grade a couple weeks ago with a perfect .22 profile burn on his forearm. He bragged about it like it was an old war wound.
Mike Irwin
October 15, 2003, 09:43 PM
Yep, brass can get VERY hot.
That's one nasty burn.
I had a similar one years ago on my eyelid.
Same thing, bounced off the wall and behind my glasses.
I've since started wearing a hat while shooting indoors.
DorGunR
October 15, 2003, 09:46 PM
Molly Just pretend it's an old dueling scar.;)
Mal H
October 15, 2003, 09:52 PM
OUCH indeed! I had a .22 shell lodge under my collar, again a bounceback. It left a perfect little burn mark, rim and all. 22's get just as hot or maybe even hotter than most other cases since they are relatively small and can't dissipate heat as fast.
Stevie-Ray
October 15, 2003, 09:56 PM
I danced around awhile when a 10mm case slipped down my collar to the small of my back. It's happened many times similar to this, but this was the worst.
James Bondrock
October 15, 2003, 10:03 PM
I had a hot .45 case from a Glock 30 lodge between my shooting glasses and cheekbone. Instinctively, I tore the glasses off my face with my free hand to dislodge the thing, while holding a loaded gun in my other hand. Somehow I managed to keep my finger off the trigger and the muzzle pointed at my backstop.
DorGunR
October 15, 2003, 10:08 PM
James Bondrock Welcome to THR.:D
El Tejon
October 15, 2003, 10:11 PM
[rubbing back of neck]
Just wait until you get .223 brass down your back. My neck and back look like a road map of Western Europe.:D
Toothpaste in range bag.
winstonsmith
October 15, 2003, 10:15 PM
A quite beautiful close lady friend of mine had a 9mm casing burn right between her.. erm.. mammaries. Somehow it didn't detract from her attractiveness:evil:
OneShot
October 15, 2003, 10:22 PM
Yep, my wife learned the hard way about wearing low cut tops to the range.... She also learned about wearing sandals to the range when a 308 case got stuck between the side of her foot and a sandal strap while scorching hot.
Live and learn I guess. I tried to warn her--Oneshot
Aleko
October 15, 2003, 10:34 PM
Yeah, know the feeling… Had a case of .223 bounce off the wall right down my t-shirt, slide down my chest, and stick right under my belt. My reaction: try to kick it back up where it came from – nope :banghead: ; start pulling my t-shirt up with my weak hand – t-shirt came up, but case stuck (baked) to my skin and stayed right where it was :cuss: ; put the rifle down carefully (it was my first time out with this new nearly $2000 rifle, so I couldn’t just drop it), then proceed to peel the case off of me with both hands, making sure it doesn’t continue it’s trip further down :what: . After 5 seconds or so (which seemed like an hour at the time), I was case-free. Couldn’t wear my pants/belt the way I do for a couple of days. :o From now on – I’ll make sure to wear turtle-neck, or a very tight neck t-shirts while shooting.
10-Ring
October 15, 2003, 10:38 PM
Yeah, I know that feeling too! :eek: The worst burn was from a AK round that some how got lodged in my shirt sleeve :what: :rolleyes: But at least it makes for a cool story later :cool:
Molly
October 15, 2003, 10:45 PM
I've been lightly burned by cases of all sizes from 9mm to .223's but I've never had one remove skin like this tiny rimfire did. Yes, a ball cap may be in order from now on -- good idea.
And I too removed the glasses and hot brass in a frantic instant using my weak hand, and fortunately all while keeping the gun pointed downrange and AD-free.
The worst thing is that I am running my trade show booth next week and will look like a darned street-fight scrapper!
cracked butt
October 15, 2003, 10:48 PM
Shooting the prone position in a servive rifle match last year, an '06 case ejected from my rifle and neatly landed down the back of the next guys coat. The guy groaned and atepted to get the brass out of his back, it took him a few seconds to get it. I felt really bad for the guy, but I have to admit, I was laughing on the inside.:evil:
Thumper
October 15, 2003, 10:54 PM
Ever had a long burst from a SAW spew empties down your blouse? It is a known military fact that Dogtags attract and hold hot brass.
DorGunR
October 15, 2003, 10:58 PM
If you ever see pictures of Vietnam era helicopter doorgunners please note that their sleves are rolled down and buttoned and their flight suits are fastened tight at their throat...........there's a reason for this.;)
CZPreB
October 15, 2003, 11:09 PM
Ow -- hope you've found something to take the sting away.
Have a similar .22 mark near the beltline from a down-the-necker that's still visible a year later (but that's my pale geek underbelly -- hopefully yours'll fade before your trade show!). And like winstonsmith, saw a well-endowed friend do a little dance for us one evening with a warm 9mm tucked in her Victoria's Secret. I specifically cover this with new shooters now. "Yes, it's startling, yes, it's hot. Safety ON, gun on bench, THEN clear the casing from your person. OK?"
On a related note, anyone ever go somewhere else after a range visit and discover some brass that followed you home? I was walking down an aisle in the supermarket one evening when two casings jumped out of my pants cuff (doggone non-tactical office wear! :) ) and tinkled across the linoleum! I thought they were loud as church bells :uhoh:, but nobody gasped or pointed or anything... Hooray for Condition White! :p
Bowlcut
October 15, 2003, 11:09 PM
been there done that posted the exact same picture :D
i learned wear a hat when shooting indoors cause my brass bounces off the boards
geegee
October 15, 2003, 11:15 PM
A few weeks ago, I went to a range to shoot my AR15. I wore an old golf shirt that I left untucked and a pair of shorts.
At one point during the session, the guy to the left of me let go a pretty fast volley from his own AR15, which began a cascade of brass my way. The first one caught me on the side of my head, which I shook off. The next two were more of a problem.
Almost simultaneously, I felt two hot pieces of brass go down the back of my shirt. The first one almost stuck between my undershirt and my back, so I kind of yelped and stood up, pulling my shirt away from my body. That had the effect of dropping that casing out of my shirt, but by doing that it allowed the second one to go down the back of my briefs, where it temporarily wedged...well, the only place it could get wedged. :what: I'm sure anyone catching those dance moves would have gotten an eyefull.
The shooter around my right side barricade came around to see what all the commotion was about, and started laughing. Double Naught Spy was my host that day, and was two shooters over to my left (although with his face into his scope, and that muzzle brake doing it's thing), I can't say he gave me much notice.
Yeah, amazing how hot those rascals can get! :D geegee
jsalcedo
October 15, 2003, 11:23 PM
The worst I ever got was a .38 wadcutter that bounced off a target stand
and ricochet between the buttons of my shirt.
Left a 2nd degree burn and scabby purple mark on my stomach.
There is no dance quite like it. Kind of like a strip tease done to a LP playing at 78rpm.
geegee
October 15, 2003, 11:25 PM
There is no dance quite like it. Kind of like a strip tease done to a LP playing at 78rpm.
Yeah Bro, you been there! :neener: geegee
geekWithA.45
October 15, 2003, 11:31 PM
On one occassion, when .45 brass entered my shirt during a timed string, I simply grabbed it through the shirt and held it away from my skin while I finished the string.
Needless to say, accuracy suffered, but the end result was "good enough for government work".
Gus Dddysgrl
October 15, 2003, 11:54 PM
Nothing quite like a hot brass caught in the "victoria's Serect." Did the hot brass dance and daddy.... well daddy just stood there and laughed.
I always have to wear glasses otherwise my accuracy would be way off. I hate having to wear glasses ALL the time. So luckily I don't get those kind of marks. They would be fun to show off, but I wouldn't want the pain they probably come with.
Gus
Red Dragon
October 15, 2003, 11:58 PM
Earlier this summer I went on a roadtrip to Vegas with my 2 best friends. We stopped at a range in Utah where I rented a desert eagle .50ae. I went in to range and fired several rounds before the unfortunate happened. due to the rotary bolt design of the desert eagle, it tends to launch the shells directly up when ejecting them. unfortunately my face happened to get in the way of one of them. the round flew up and hit me right in the nose, giving me a cut, burn and bruise all at the same time. This happened in June and I still have a small mark on the tip of my nose where the round hit.
Nightcrawler
October 16, 2003, 12:02 AM
The only gun that's ever spat brass in my face was the M16A1, even with that stupid snap-on brass deflector, it found a way. :cuss: (lefty)
I was there when Red Dragon got brassed in the face by the DE .50. Maybe they oughta adjust the ejector on that thing so it goes off to the side, instead of up and back. People's heads tend to be there.
Red Dragon
October 16, 2003, 12:04 AM
The other unfortunate brass burn I got was back when I was in the Firing Squad in high school JROTC. we were doing a 21 gun salute for memorial day ceremonies held at the local cemetary and I was one of the shooters. at the second volley, the ejected brass from the kid next to me flew up and rested right on my collar. I figured it was best to maintain my professionalism and just deal with the pain until we were done. when I finally removed the brass, I had quite the nasty burn on my neck.
Nightcrawler
October 16, 2003, 12:06 AM
I got one of those too, once, I think. Nothing like just having to stand there and take it.
Loved trying to hold a salute while a big fat mosquito was sucking on the back of my neck, too.
SoCalGeek
October 16, 2003, 12:14 AM
The first time i ever went shooting, i had the pleasure of shooting a Walther P88. I go through a few mags with no trouble, it sends the brass where they're supposed to. Now once we decide it's my brother's turn, i make the mistake of standing about where it's throwing them. First shot he fires, a hot 9mm straight down the front of my shirt. Thankfully, it was a pretty loose shirt and the brasss went right out the bottom. I don't like burns much.
Mike Irwin
October 16, 2003, 12:26 AM
The "Brass Dance Song..."
Shuffle to the left,
Skitter to the right,
Scream out,
With all your might,
DAMN THAT'S HOT! DAMN THAT'S HOT! DAMN THAT'S HOT!
Red Dragon
October 16, 2003, 12:36 AM
one thing I enjoyed doing when I took my little stepbrother out shooting early this summer was catching the brass as they ejected and bagging them right away. I avoided burns by moving really really fast after I caught them.:D
Daedalus
October 16, 2003, 01:34 AM
Buddy of mine was shooting his Remington 7400 30-06. We are the only two guys at the range. I am sitting to his right, watching him shoot for a while. Lean back, prop my legs up on the shooting bench. Its Florida in the summer. I am wearing shorts.
30-06 casing sails from his rifle, 3 feet in a lofty arc and directly down my left pant-leg (short-leg?).
I do not think he will ever allow me to forget the louid scream and little jig I performed for about 30 seconds trying to wrestle that hot casing out of my shorts while my buddy is bowled over with laughter.
wendy
October 16, 2003, 01:38 AM
In addition to not wearing a low cut shirt, I do not advise wearing a bra at all while shooting. I have had hot brass get caught in my bra, was not able to remove it quick enough and have had nasty burns. But I hate wearing the stupid things anyway so it is just another excuse not to wear them :D
Nightcrawler
October 16, 2003, 01:41 AM
That's just sexism right there. I'll bet everyone would be just revolted if I went around saying I wasn't wearing underwear. :o :D
wendy
October 16, 2003, 01:50 AM
Nightcrawler
Heck that might get you a date! LMAO!
What is sexism is my company's dress code stating that it is required that women wear bras to work! :rolleyes:
I know that my "advice" regarding bra's and shooting may not work for every woman out there but if it prevents one other woman from going through what I went through, it's worth it! Because a burn there really hurts! :cuss:
Nightcrawler
October 16, 2003, 01:53 AM
Alright, Wendy, advice solidly taken then. I will not wear a bra to the range.
You hear that, High Road?? I'm not wearing a bra!
Hoo...this is so liberating...
But you want to talk about sexy? Cut myself shaving this morning, just a little nick under my right nostril. Well, seems there are a lot of capillaries in the nostril...sucker bled for over an hour.
So, there I was, walking to class, backpack fully laiden with $80.00 textbooks, a laptop computer, and my yuppie water bottle (suburban canteen), holding a wad of bloody toilet paper to my face.
"Hey...ladies...what's going on? Hey, how come no one's talkin' to me?"
:rolleyes: LOL
wendy
October 16, 2003, 02:28 AM
Nightcrawler
I am so proud of you for declaring that you are bra less! ;)
and OWWWWwwww that sounds painfull! :what:
Nightcrawler
October 16, 2003, 02:32 AM
Oh no! It didn't hurt! In fact, just when I thought it had stopped, due to the lack of pain, and put down my blood-stained cloth to type my notes, I'd feel a trickle going down my face. :rolleyes:
It's always the little ones that bleed like nuts.
I got it to stop within a couple hours. All I had to do was stick a little piece of tissue to the cut and go around with what for all the world looked like a cleaning patch stuck up my nose.
Like I said, sexy stuff. :D
wendy
October 16, 2003, 02:36 AM
I am not a big fan of the sight of blood :what:
that is why I try to prevent brass burns that could possibly lead to bleeding {like how I turned that back on topic? LOL ;) }
Nightcrawler
October 16, 2003, 02:42 AM
I am not a big fan of the sight of blood
I ain't either; especially when it's mine.
like how I turned that back on topic? LOL
Hmm...could this be a subtle hint to stop talking about my undergarments? ;)
ANYway...
Never had a brass burn that bled, though. My buddy Red Dragon did, though. Desert Eagle .50AE ejected the brass so that it flipped and the lip of the case cut his nose.
I was like, "Huh...never seen that happen before." Then I laughed and he hit me.
Red Dragon
October 16, 2003, 04:10 AM
your damn right I hit you Nightcrawler. it hurt! it hurt like hell for such a small cut/burn/bruise, and the sadistic SOB that you are, you laughed at me. Yeah I hit you and if I could do it all over again I would dodge the brass and hit you anyway :neener:
Red Dragon
October 16, 2003, 04:12 AM
oh yeah, and I don't wear a bra either. don't want anything that can catch hot brass... or strange looks for that matter :D
Dorrin79
October 16, 2003, 08:35 AM
ouch.
I was sporting one of those for the last two weeks from a .45 ACP casing that went behind my glasses and lodged between cheekbone and glasses frame.
I was proud of myself for calmly engaging safety, setting down gun, then yelping like a little girl and doing the "hot-brass dance"
:D
foghornl
October 16, 2003, 08:51 AM
My range outfit goes something like this:
Hat
Safety glasses over regular specs
Tight, high-collared t-shirt, untucked
jeans, with snug belt
socks and sneaks
I had my shirt tucked in one day, and a fresh hot .45ACP empty went down the front. While doing the Hokey-Pokey and trying to remove said fresh empty, fell down inside pants........:uhoh:
spacemanspiff
October 16, 2003, 01:06 PM
my walther p22 likes to throw brass wherever i least expect it too. whats weird is occasionally it will eject it right onto my right arm, and it lays flat there, not bouncing off. but one day it tossed an empty up over my hatted head and down the back of my tucked in tshirt.
i calmly and coolly held the p22 in my right hand pointed downrange while doing the hot brass jiggle.
oh yeah, and wendy? this thread is worthless without pics! oh wait, i forgot, this is THR, not glocktalk......darnit!
:evil:
Andrew Rothman
October 16, 2003, 03:22 PM
El Tejon: Why toothpaste?
Average Guy
October 16, 2003, 03:29 PM
You got me beat. I got a .223 case behind my glasses over on Okinawa, but it didn't look particularly cool. However...one thing I learned after I started kickboxing is that chicks--ahem, women--in the office really dig a shiner. War face optional. :cool:
http://www.hkactionfilms.com/images/cgbw.jpg
Skunkabilly
October 16, 2003, 03:56 PM
Wendy : In addition to not wearing a low cut shirt, I do not advise wearing a bra at all while shooting.
Yeah, I had to stop wearing them altogether!
I think I still have a little scar on my side from when a .308 shell went down my shirt. That mother HUURRRRTTTT :eek:
Nightcrawler
October 16, 2003, 04:03 PM
Skunky, buddy, I've seen pictures of you. You wearing a bra? Puh-leeze. Training bra maybe.
Face it, bud, you just don't have the figure for it. :neener:
Bravo11
October 16, 2003, 04:08 PM
With a M60A3 tank turret turned at an angle the M85 .50 cal machine will rain brass and links right down into the drivers compartment.
Trust me on this one.
Chairman Meow
October 16, 2003, 04:15 PM
I had a 45 case hit me in the forhead and cut a little crescent shaped slice out of me. I didn't even notice until blood ran down into my right eye. :what:
hso
October 16, 2003, 04:36 PM
I had a hot .45 casing vault over the top of my glasses and land under my eye also. Talk about tossing a pair of safety glasses off and doing the Curley Joe!
El Tejon
October 16, 2003, 04:38 PM
Mpayne, to treat the burn(s). Lots of better stuff out there now.
[activate geezer voice] I remember, when all this was orchard, when toothpaste is all we shooters had, and we liked it! I had to walk up hill both ways in the snow to the range, and we liked it!
:D
Skunkabilly
October 16, 2003, 04:45 PM
[activate geezer voice] I remember, when all this was orchard, when toothpaste is all we shooters had, and we liked it! I had to walk up hill both ways in the snow to the range, and we liked it!
Barefoot! That's 'up the hill both ways in the snow to the range barefoot'.... :p
Is Martin's burn cream any good?
Daniel T
October 16, 2003, 05:06 PM
My shaved head is a hot brass magnet. They like to land on top, then take their sweet time to rolling off. The cases are probably only up there for a few seconds, but it feels a hell of a lot longer. :)
VOD
October 16, 2003, 09:11 PM
Yep, been there, done that, just like it happened here. Since then, I wear a hat to help keep that from happening.
This was another of those little lessons in life.
wendy
October 17, 2003, 12:26 AM
spacemanspiff:
oh yeah, and wendy? this thread is worthless without pics! oh wait, i forgot, this is THR, not glocktalk......darnit!
LMAO! I would rather not get tossed off of THR for something like that ;)
Skunkabilly
LMAO @ you too! :D
I was lucky that my burn didn't leave a scar. I have enough of those already! :(
Nightcrawler
October 17, 2003, 12:30 AM
He's right about glocktalk...I saw a picture there once. Guy photographed his wife (cut her head out of the pic), topless, with "Glock" panties (***??), holding a glock pistol, and posted it.
Utterly charming.
Wendy, however, if you really must share those kind of photographs, you can simply use the PM function to send them out, without upsetting the moderators.
Hmm...that about fills my sexual harrassment quota for the day. I'm set. Waiting for my slap, though I request you take off any diamond rings first. ('course, they leave cool scars...)
Anyways, I think the worst burn I ever got at the range was when I accidentally touched the barrel of my .30-30 as I was trying to adjust the sights. Ended up losing the screw that held the rear sight on, too, and the sight fell off...:rolleyes:
Man, I'm smooth sometimes.
Last February, when we were qualifying for Guards, another guy's M16 spat brass at me that got caught between the earpiece of my glasses and my temple; burned the side of my head, and caused me to jerk a shot. Ended up getting a 39/40, instead of 40/40. :banghead:
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