Punk wristbands 'illegal weapons' (Queensland, Australia)


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Bruce in West Oz
October 15, 2003, 09:50 PM
October 16, 2003

HIS bracelets may look tough, but Richard Cafarella is really a big softie who has never been in a fight in his life.

So the timid, part-time punk rock musician from Hope Island was caught off guard when police officers intercepted him at Surfers Paradise in May, telling him his rock-star jewellery was illegal.

Mr Cafarella, 20, a machine technician by day, said he and his mates wore the fashionable wrist cuffs whenever they went out.

Yesterday, he appeared in Southport Court charged with possessing a weapon - three leather, metal-studded wrist cuffs, which he says are available at fashion stores such as City Beach.

Prosecutor Greg Overton said the bracelets were a weapon under a section of the Weapons Act.

He said the items had the potential to cause bodily harm by cutting or piercing the skin if used against another person.

To show the damage the cuffs could cause, he tendered a video that depicted a dead pig's head being assaulted by an officer wearing a similar wrist cuff.

The head was reportedly used because pig flesh is the closest type to humans.

Cafarella, who was supported in court by his father, said he had been walking on Orchid Avenue after having coffee with a friend at Surfers Paradise when police approached him.

He said he liked to wear the cuffs, which were part of his punk image.

"It's the fashion I'm into and I guess you practise what you preach," he said.

Defence solicitor Jason Buckland said the cuffs were not a weapon as they were designed to be an accessory.

He told the court his client had no intention of harming anyone and was not involved in any disturbance or altercation when police approached him.

Magistrate Mr Ron Kilner reserved his decision in the summary trial and remanded the matter until October 24.

Outside court Mr Cafarella said he did not know the cuffs could be considered illegal.

"That's how I dress," he said.

"My friends and my girlfriend wear them too.

"They say that a bong isn't illegal until it's used (for drugs), so the cuffs shouldn't be illegal until they're used to hurt someone."

Creations by Decka shop owner Debbie Kocka, who sold Mr Cafarella the cuffs and gave evidence at the trial, said outside court if police could consider anything that pierced skin as a weapon, their work would be cut out for them.

"If they are going to classify it that way, that could mean a badge, a tie pin, a brooch pin, lots of things," she said.

Mr Cafarella said he had wanted to fight the charge from the beginning, saying he did not want a conviction against his name.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7575113%255E421,00.html

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winstonsmith
October 15, 2003, 10:21 PM
I have no words. You should see the face I am making right now, though.

:mad: :uhoh: :banghead: :cuss: :fire: :scrutiny: :barf: :what:

Nightcrawler
October 15, 2003, 10:35 PM
You know...I've met my fair share of Goth-types in my time. All were pretty weird by my standards (and I'm sure the feeling was mutual), and most seemed pretty depressed and such, and I'm sure they're all quite dark. Many live in their mom's basement and call it the Painkeep, for instance.

Stereotypes aside, most Goths I've met aren't what you'd call the violent type. (Well, most are pale and skinny to the point where trying to be violent would get their butts kicked). But I digress.

So, Australia is trying to ban things that are sharp and pointy, now? Can't wait to see the anti-scissor legislation. Or the banning of hat pins and sewing needles.

And you know, you could probably stab somebody with a spork if you pushed hard enough.

Joe Demko
October 15, 2003, 10:43 PM
Hilarious post, Nightcrawler. I wet myself laffing at the "Painkeep" crack. Just for the record, the wee fellow in the OP claims to be a punk. That particular bit of subculture dates back to my yoot: the 1970's. Goths are superficially similar in a few ways but are actually not punks. For that matter, present day "punks" have the same relationship to the 1970's version as Fonzie did to a real 1950's greaser. i.e. playacting

SDC
October 15, 2003, 10:50 PM
Same BS in Canada too; spiked or studded wristbands and neckbands, rings with projections on them, and a phonebook full of other stuff too.

winstonsmith
October 16, 2003, 12:45 AM
My older brother is one of the "punk crowd." He puts on the punk armor to cover up his insecure and boyish self (He's 18, I'm 15). He can't fight for beans, spikes or no spikes. (I beat him every time.

tiberius
October 16, 2003, 01:36 AM
To show the damage the cuffs could cause, he tendered a video that depicted a dead pig's head being assaulted by an officer wearing a similar wrist cuff.

Fratricide? :D

C.R.Sam
October 16, 2003, 01:53 AM
Guess next will be turn in your diamond rings.

Madness is creeping up on us,
Cept where it is runnin full tilt at us.

Sam

Jim March
October 16, 2003, 02:15 AM
I guess they thought he was a terror-wrist!

:neener:

Nightcrawler
October 16, 2003, 02:20 AM
Golgo, I'm afraid I can't take credit for the "Painkeep" crack.

Inspiration is everywhere, my friend. (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-01-28&res=l)

Logistar
October 16, 2003, 02:12 PM
I guess they thought he was a terror-wrist! :rolleyes: :D :D

Hey, next thing you know I'll get arrested for wearing a tie. - I could always take it off and use it to strangle someone - yep... definitely a deadly weapon. In fact, if I wore a tie AND those wrist cuffs, that would make me a " TIE OR WRIST " (for all you country folk like me!)

Then again, I wouldn't be all THAT upset if they DID ban ties! :D

Logistar

Derek Zeanah
October 16, 2003, 02:15 PM
I think I'd defend myself by offering the prosecutor's ballpoint pen into evidence as a more effective weapon than the puny heavy-metal bands I was wearing earlier. Maybe offer to demonstrate on his temples, eyes, family jewels...

:rolleyes:

El Tejon
October 16, 2003, 02:47 PM
Are hands and feet illegal in Australia yet?:D

Riiight, stumpy, put your feet up on the chopping block. It's for the children and all that.

Jim March
October 16, 2003, 02:51 PM
The problem with neckwear is that they're used in "Tie Boxing"...

winstonsmith
October 16, 2003, 08:14 PM
The problem with neckwear is that they're used in "Tie Boxing"...



LOL!!! :D :rolleyes: :evil:

That's 2/3rds of a pun. As in P-U! *holds nose*

Hkmp5sd
October 16, 2003, 09:16 PM
I wonder how much damage can be done to a dead pigs head with a pair of steel-toed boots or a pair of golf shoes. Better go ahead and ban all shoes other than ballet slippers.

Sunray
October 24, 2003, 03:36 PM
"...fashionable wrist cuffs..." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The sad thing is anything with a stud over I forget how long is illegal here too. Imagine a "punk " mechanic though. Get his nose ring caught in a timing chain. HAHAHAHA!!!

cordex
October 24, 2003, 03:57 PM
A piece of paper can "cause bodily harm by cutting or piercing the skin".
Keys too.

Silly law. Like England's various Offensive Weapons acts.

hksw
October 24, 2003, 04:50 PM
Fratricide? :)

Hohoho man.


...a pair of steel-toed boots or a pair of golf shoes.

Or a screwdriver or even a golf club?

And of course, what about man's oldest and most ubiquitous weapon, the pointed stick?

Byron Quick
October 24, 2003, 10:02 PM
The lunatics are running the asylum.


Bruce, you have my sympathy.

CWL
October 25, 2003, 06:08 PM
Back in my youth, I'd attend real punk shows at the Mabuhay Gardens in San Francisco. To create those tall spikes in their hair, punkers used to wrap their hair around nails and set them into place with colored Jello (sugar = cement).

Wonder if nails are next to go.

MagKnightX
October 26, 2003, 02:51 PM
A piece of paper can "cause bodily harm by cutting or piercing the skin".

Well, obviously, that's why there's so much of a push to make "paperless" offices!

Let's just ban goths, phreaks, punks, office workers (pens), Texans (large belt buckles. Plus, remember "Goldfinger?" They can hide blades in their hats!), rappers (chains), and anything with a button, zipper, buckle, rivet, stud, snap, velcro, string or any other possible offensive weapon.

gun-fucious
October 26, 2003, 07:20 PM
Funny,
i alway thought of them as anti road rash and pit bull bite armor, not weaponry

most of them have hardly any edge at all
http://av.skatewarehouse.com/big/PGSTWB-big.jpg


i gather they would not like my olde bike chain bracelets either

now those babies were edgy

ones like this are a bit more scarey:
http://mysite.freeserve.com/leathertec/images/studded_wrist2.jpg

but then what about:
http://steve.htcbodypiercing.com/portfolio.htm

greyhound
October 26, 2003, 08:20 PM
Anyone over there in Oz ever thought of getting out there and catching/preventing some criminals rather than obsessing over what might or might not be used as a weapon?

Nah, that would be too difficult....

Can't they just pass a law saying the most deadly weapon is the human brain and be done with it?

Brian Dale
October 27, 2003, 02:01 AM
{Insert name of object here} ... "shouldn't be illegal until they're used to hurt someone."

Mr. Carafella said this in public? They could put him away for a loooong time for such a heinous thought crime.

Maybe it'll just be, "Come now, Richard, drink your nice hemlock; there's a good boy."

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