NC castle doctrine


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paintballdude902
May 13, 2009, 04:47 PM
there is a new bill, Senate Bill 928, it will be a North Carolina castle doctine

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2009&BillID=S928

lucky for me my senate rep is a co-sponcer, i think im gonna send her an email saying thank you

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runrabbitrun
May 14, 2009, 11:01 AM
This is good news. Lets support our reps on this and get er done.

paintballdude902
May 15, 2009, 01:48 AM
i was a bit surprised that we didnt have one. our state is a pretty gun friendly but we dont have a castle doctrine good news is this may change quickly

i found out from my sister(anti, the only one in the family....)she sent it to me as "shooters first bill"
Essentially, it offers immunity to anyone who "shoots first" and asks questions later, removing the responsibility to try to evade the threat to retreat to protect oneself before using deadly force on someone unknown. I don't think I trust my fellow North Carolinians, especially gun owners, to assess "a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm." I think this will increase gun violence and protect irresponsible gun users. It will lead to tragedies, not heroism.

Chris


normally if i read this i would say that the person isnt very bright or didnt read it but she read it to me while i was sharpening some tools, and that only leaves stupidity....but shes a grad student at unc chapel hill on a full ride soooo.... hard headedness?

Hungry Seagull
May 15, 2009, 01:50 PM
Arkansas supports what North Carolina is trying to do.

Our Castle Doctrine means that you have retreated (Within your Dwelling) and no further retreat is required. Use of deadly force is supported and advocated to stop the action or crime being committed against you and your home (Family etc) Deadly force does not mean "Shoot to kill" but rather use a weapon capable of stopping the bad guy's actions. It may result in bad guy's death. If so, you will be examined and they will decide if charges or not.

If I dont know the person battering down my door and going after my spouse with a matchete and starts trying to cut her to peices, after the shoot is finished the bad guy should be either fleeing, dead or dying outside and hopefully the wife will be ok.

Hell, I might not get the chance to get out of the room to engage the bad guy, the SPOUSE might engage first once that door crashes down.

Tell that to your Anti Sister. Home invasions are a terrible thing and those who dont have weapons at all when invaded in this state, die or get hurt bad begging for thier lives to be spared on knees.

Or maybe some time watching shows about Carbini Projects in Chicago in our recent history will be most revealing.

strangelittleman
May 15, 2009, 02:18 PM
Great!, My Senator, Tom Apodaca is one of the co-signers, I've already alerted my co-workers & family that they should show support!

kendradad
May 15, 2009, 02:42 PM
normally if i read this i would say that the person isnt very bright or didnt read it but she read it to me while i was sharpening some tools, and that only leaves stupidity....but shes a grad student at unc chapel hill on a full ride soooo.... hard headedness?

Sorry she couldn't get into a university. :D

Frandy
May 15, 2009, 04:16 PM
I'm glad that your sister is going to a fine university. Go Tarheels!

As a gun owner and a NC resident, here are my thoughts about what your sister said or wrote.

1. Essentially, it offers immunity to anyone who "shoots first" and asks questions later...

Well, I sure hope so. I have no intention to ask a home intruder what his or her motivation is. Anyone who enters my home that I do not know must always be viewed as a threat first. This is a natural, human response. It does not imply, however, that I will always shoot.

2. ...removing the responsibility to try to evade the threat to retreat to protect oneself before using deadly force on someone unknown.

Tricky one. She assumes that retreat is a responsible act (might very well be!), but by doing so, she avoids the possibility that one cannot retreat or that "retreat" only gives a dangerous person an opportunity to strike first.


3. I don't think I trust my fellow North Carolinians, especially gun owners, to assess "a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm."

There is no free lunch. It is true that someone might not do a proper assessment, but that could happen even if one "retreats." What I do know is that the law should protect me from being prosecuted for (possibly) making such an error in my home against someone who does not belong in my home. The law should favor me and not the invader.

4. I think this will increase gun violence
It might. The again, it might save innocent lives. Take yer pick.

5. ...and protect irresponsible gun users.
This is a loaded statement (no pun intended). It assumes that I and others are irresponsible. Sorry, it is the home invader who lacks responsibility.

6. It will lead to tragedies, not heroism.
Yes, taking a life is a tragic situation.

SCKimberFan
May 17, 2009, 01:30 PM
I don't think I trust my fellow North Carolinians, especially gun owners, to assess "a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm."

Does she trust any of her fellow Tarheels? Why does she single out gun-owners? If anything, gun-owners, knowing the results of having to use said tools, should be able to better assess a "reasonable fear of imminent peril...".

It will not, however, protect irresponsible gun-owners.


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normally if i read this i would say that the person isnt very bright or didnt read it but she read it to me while i was sharpening some tools, and that only leaves stupidity....but shes a grad student at unc chapel hill on a full ride soooo.... hard headedness?

Sorry she couldn't get into a university.

Consistently ranked as one of the finest universities in America. :neener:

frisbee2421
May 17, 2009, 03:26 PM
tell your sister to remember eve carson. those abundant thugs m.o. was to walk around trying door handles at apartment complexes and subsequently home invading. it is this naive thought process that will get your sister killed. eve carson begged for her life in the street. she was gunned down like a dog. information that was not made public, one of the gunshots managed to mutilate her genitalia. i have to applaud our legislators in expanding law abiding citizens rights. and please tell your sister to remember eve carson, there will be no quarter when you have dealings with thugs.

ranger335v
May 17, 2009, 05:49 PM
"that only leaves stupidity....but shes a grad student at unc chapel hill on a full ride soooo"

Universities are no longer halls of education, as such, sadly including UNC-CH. I have a daugher who attended and a granddaughter there now.

Seems if a kid quietly accepts the social engineering programs and rampant anti-America blather and does a lot of "self-study" they can still learn, even there. But it ain't what it used to be and that's no guess! (From what I see, that applies to ALL social experiment acadamies...I mean "universities") Seems UNC-CH has displaced Duke as the chief supporter of Marxism in NC.

ranger335v
May 17, 2009, 05:52 PM
"that only leaves stupidity....but shes a grad student at unc chapel hill on a full ride soooo"

Universities are no longer halls of education, as such, and sadly that includes UNC-CH. I have a daughter and son-in-law who attended and a grand granddaughter there now.

Seems if kids quietly endure the oppressive social re-engineering professors and their rampant anti-America blather while doing a lot of "self-study" they can still learn, even there. But the school ain't what it used to be and that's no guess! (From what I see, that applies to ALL social experiment acadamies...I mean "universities") Seems UNC-CH has displaced Duke as the chief supporter of Marxism in NC.

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