[Keith]

Actually, it's insultingly stupid movie physics, but they start off the page discussing all the insultingly stupid gun stuff!

http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/

[Abominable No-Man]

Lots of that in movies.

I think it's funny sometime when someone whips out a Glock or a revolver and you get the sound effects of a slide being racked that is supposed to represent a safety being clicked off....

There's insultingly stupid stuff in the script, too. Like Bruce Willis in "Die Hard" talking about the Glock being porcelin and being invisible to metal detectors (by all accounts you'd think he would know better....), or the old standby "he sprayed the bullets down with teflon".

I get funny looks sometimes when I start snickering....

:banghead:

ANM

[atek3]

I love that page :)

atek3

[Nightcrawler]

Been thinking. You know how in some movies a gun "clicks" whenever someone points it at something quickly? I've seen this in anime, too.

I don't know if it's intended, necessarily, to be a hammer cocking or a safety sound.

I think some people just assume that juns "rattle" and make metallic noises when you swing them around quickly. When the director and the foley guy find out that the gun won't rattle loundly on its own, they add the sound in later, for effect.

Still stupid, though.

[Rebel Gunman HK]

NERDS.:neener:

[Skunkabilly]

My M1A rattled.... :o

"You know in the movies when the good guy is right about to shoot the bad guy and he cocks the gun? Why didn't he cock it earlier? Because it sounds scary, that's why." -- almost verbatim, bad guy from the Phoneboof.

[tcdrennen]

Once Upon A Time In Mexico is my current favorite - my partner was embarrassed by my laughing long and loud at some of its absurdities. The best is the repeatedly shown-in-close-up snubby revolver with the HUGE can suppressor on the barrel. Hysterical!!:banghead: :evil:

[Travis McGee]

I love the 2" long "silencers" going onto magnum revolvers, and the sound comes out like "pft".

[BowStreetRunner]

yeah thats rich
now it was an 1895 nagant.....
different story

[JohnKSa]

I watched part of some very stupid movie where they actually SWITCHED guns during the last scene.

In one scene the character was holding a Glock and then in the next scene it had miraculously transformed into a Beretta. Can't remember the exact guns now, but it was amazingly stupid.

[LiquidTension]

Nightcrawler - what, you didn't know that guns automatically make menacing noises whenever they pass near a camera? :rolleyes: :D

[BluesBear]

I remember the TV show VEGAS! starring Robert Ulrich.
It was during the first season (¿1977?) that he carried a 4" Blued S&W M19. (In later seasons he carried a Dan Wesson) There was a scene in which his character, Dan Tanna, with his revolver drawn, in his right hand, at a low ready position, approaches a door. He reaches out to grab the door with his left hand. There is a close up of his left hand grasping and turning the door know but the revolver has transformed itself into a 4" Blued Colt Python. When he opens the door and it cuts back to a wide shot it is, once again, a S&W M19.

:rolleyes:

[timbo]

Finally, people who see what I end up seeing in these movies!

What? Nerd? Where?

[Ed]

I gotta agree with Skunk on this one, the most irritating thing is to watch someone clear a house and 10 of his buddies have died in the process and then he sneaks up behind the bad guy and cycles the slide on the shot gun..... What I'd like to see sometime is someone cycle the slide,the last round eject unfired and they get shot for being stupid...in a movie of course.

[Ed]

I forgot another favorite, when there is spilled gas on the ground and someone shoots a bullet into it so it will explode.

[Abenaki]

To set the gas on fire you just have to have some of them bullets that send off sparks when they hit some thing!

I hate bullets that spark!

Abenaki

[Keith]

I have not seen Once Upon A Time In Mexico, but the director Robert Rodriguez, plays that stuff for laughs - you're supposed to laugh at the absurdities! The plots are absurd, the gun play is absurd, and the characters say and do absurd things.

There is a trilogy of weird vampire movies made by Rodriguez called "From Dusk Till Dawn" (I, II, and III), that are just hysterically funny! One of them is set in 1915 or so and the hero carries a brace of broomhandle Mausers that he fires in tandem. You gotta love it!

Keith

[BigG]

I remember watching one recently where the BG has the GG covered with a pump shotgun. Wanting to menace him more, he points if at him aggressively, racking it (again) as the live one spills out onto the floor. :p

[sch40]

I was just talking about that! How, in some movies, the shotgun troupe will rack their guns in almost every scene, or when they turn a corner, or when they just had a pep talk -- but nothing comes out! Were they unloaded?!? Do they ever fire the darn things, or just keep 'em around for menacing looks and sounds... :rolleyes:

[nomadboi]

Actors. They just love to cock those things, pump the shotgun, whatever.
Hand 'em a toy and they're all over it. Directors often aren't much better.

Still, someone should have more discipline about it.

[Sunray]

It's a movie. The laws of physics don't apply. You can do anything in a movie. Just like you can in an animated cartoon.

[Carlos]

Mine do, when I just "LOOK" at em.

:D

[jason10mm]

The director of "The Mummy" (Stephen Sommers) addresses the clacking guns issue on the commentary of the scene where the GGs and the Americans square off in the crypts. He said that even though he knows the pistols do not make any noise, it helps with the tension and to inform the less observant of what is going on through an audio medium. Just like the "whizzzzzzz" sound whenever someone spins a modern revolver cylinder. Mine does not do that, but it clues in the audience who may miss it otherwise.

I have seen several movies that DO have things right. For example, in the beginning of "Jason X" the lead girl racks a shotgun twice, ejecting a live round the second time. Van Damm in "Double Impact" picks up a berretta from a fallen soldier. He is being charged as he does it, so he immediately racks the slide to ensure a chambered round and ejects a live round as he does so. An interesting bit of realism in an otherwise fluff action film.

The finger off the trigger stuff is starting to percolate through Hollywood, as are press checks and weaver/isocles stances. I have not seen the sideways "gangsta" hold in a while, though I tend to avoid "Gangsta" films in the first place.

[ShaiVong]

Saw this Jet Li movie where some unnamed vigilate was going through this crime bosses house with a pump shotgun, laying waste.

Only problem was when he got to the boss, he was behind this bulletproof glass. So while the boss stands there begging to be spared, the assassin just looks at him (through a mask), and systematically ejects every round in his shotgun like he was reloading a revolver, and loads it up again!

I dunno if this was to give weight to the fact that the vigilante wasn't changing his mind, or if he was actually loading slugs or somthing. Once he got it loaded, a few rounds from the shotty smashed up the glass enough to be kicked out of the frame, and the boss was done :rolleyes:

[goon]

Have you guys ever noticed the sacrificial cops?
It usually goes something like this:
The cops come sailing around the corner in their squad cars then come to a screeching halt.
They jump out and immediately begin to shoot without getting behind any cover.
Not suprisingly, they get shot.

Also, note the standard movie explosion.
Hand grenades usually only have about 4oz of explosive in them. They do their damage by throwing fragments, not because of their explosive power.
But in the movies, every hand grenade gives off this huge tornado of flames when it goes off. I have seen AT mines with about 20 pounds of HE in them go off, and they don't even look like that.

[Quartus]

Yeah, there was a badly done Merc-in-Africa movie that did that one to the limit. Hand grenades were apparently the equivalent of 81mm mortar rounds. Except when they were used inside a building - then they look like firecrackers!




I hate bullets that spark!


Oh, not me! I LOVE them! White phosphorous in a .50 cal! You gotta love THAT! :D

[ETCss Phil McCrackin]

I was quite surprised a while back when I watched the Sandra Bullock movie "Murder By Numbers" with my wife. It seems that someone saw to include some decent weapons handeling. Sandra, for instance, handles her piece and flashlight well, and even approaches corners slowly peaking with her eyes and muzzle only. Instead of the movie standard, "hug the wall with your back then JUMP around and give the BG a perfect full body shot!"

[Zach S]

Been thinking. You know how in some movies a gun "clicks" whenever someone points it at something quickly? I've seen this in anime, too. Mine do that. Well, they dont click, they rattle a little:D

Funny you should mention anime, since the toons can manage to keep their fingers off the triggers, actors cant.

[Thrash1982]

"The Way Of The Gun" has some pretty good gun handling. One handed reloads, good movement and communication (1st character: "Moving!", 2nd character: "Covering!", you get the idea). Unlike a lot of movies where the guns never seem to run out of ammo except at all the right moments.

The only problem I had with the movie was the perfectly straight row of bullet holes in the wall from a full auto .308 Galil.

[Amadeus]

I think it was in the Tony Scott movie TRUE ROMANCE that Christian Slater's character carries a Smith and Wesson model 66 throughout the entire film. However, it magically becomes a 686 in the final act. Not sure why the armorer switched firearms mid-production. A noticable gaffe though.

[Brad Johnson]

My fav is a Stephen Segal (sp?) film where he is obviously firing a semi-auto pistol. You can clearly see him jerking the trigger (and "jerk" is the operative term both for the pun and the fact that it looked like he was trying to crush the thing).

All good and well, until...

You realize that the sound coming over the speakers is a gun rattling away in FULL AUTO!

Yeesh.

Brad

[Amadeus]

That same mistake goes the other way as well. A friend of mine does a lot of set and props work for film and television. A recent shoot he was on included the use of a full-auto glock. He tells me that on set the gun spit out a stupendous tongue of flame and rattled itself empty. But in post production the foley editor (the guy who dubs in sound fx) totally screwed the effect by dubbing in a SINGLE GUN SHOT. So when the show aired this tongue of flame that once sounded so delicious was reduced to a single BANG.

MORONS!

[ShaiVong]

That reminds me of another segal movie, where he duct tapes a large soda bottle or milkjug or somthing on the end of an auto to make a silencer. :rolleyes:

Doesnt work; I tried it years ago with a browning 22 rifle :p