RE: M1911 in Colt: An American Legend


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BigG
October 16, 2003, 12:57 PM
I was interested in reading R. L. Wilson's book he mentioned that the US Model 1911 pistol was made by Colt, Rem/UMC, Springfield Armory, and Winchester? That was a new one on me. I only knew about the first three, unless it's a typo. Please enlighten.

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Brian Williams
October 16, 2003, 01:09 PM
Also Singer, Union Signal & Switch, Remington Rand, Ithaca and some others

These guys know more than I do.
http://www.1911forum.com/forums/

BigG
October 16, 2003, 01:12 PM
Prof, will all due respeck, you are including the 1911A1. I was strictly referring to the Model of 1911, pre-1926. Thanks,

George

Brian Williams
October 16, 2003, 01:14 PM
You are quite correct.
I am corrected,
thanks

1911Tuner
October 16, 2003, 01:16 PM
Howdy BigG,

I THINK I heard somethin' about a Winchester-made 1911, but I mighta been drunk.

They were also made by Remington Rand...Union Switch & Signal,
Ithaca, and Singer..with Union Switch & Signal and Singer taking top honors
for most rare. Singers are so rare that a nice one that is original and
correct can fetch upward of 15 thousand dollars.

I've got at least one of each except a Singer. I've got a Singer
frame that's wearin' a Colt slide, but that don't count no ways.:D

Cheers!
Tuner

BigG
October 16, 2003, 01:21 PM
Howdy Nineteen-Eleven Tooner!

The model of 1911 was made for WWI; the Model of 1911A1 began in 1926, IIRC. Two different animals as far as manufacture is concerned. The 11A1 was made by a bunch of mfrs, whereas the Model of 1911 was only made by Colt, SA, Rem/UMC, and maybe Winchester. That was my question. Did Winchester produce Model of 1911 pistols? According to the book, yes, I was trying to see if they made a mistake. Did they?

1911Tuner
October 16, 2003, 01:56 PM
re-Howdy Big Gee...

That's what I get for lumpin' all 1911s into the same category...and
not readin' the whole thread. My term for the originals is WW1 era,
though I know that the A-1 version came years after the Great War ended.

As far as I know, the three that you mentioned were the manufacturers
for the pre-WW2 pistols. Seems like I've heard that Winchester made
a few, but my records are limited here. I've never SEEN a Winchester,
but I've never seen a live Bengal Tiger either. The man to ask is
Dana Kamm...aka dsk. If anybody would know, he would.

I'd like to know myself. Like I said...I mighta been drunk, and I ain't
touched a drop in 25 years.:cool:

Tuner

BigG
October 16, 2003, 02:02 PM
I ain't touched a drop in 25 years.

Weel, bro, you get down to Lanner, we can change that if ye've a mind to. Or, the coffee pot is always on at the house. :) Thanks for the response!

1911Tuner
October 16, 2003, 02:06 PM
Ain't been down thataway in a while. Got some ex-brothers-in-law
in Marietta, but that's a whole 'nother story.:D

Now if we're talkin coffee, I'll drink ya under the table, but hard
likker I gotta leave alone. Makes me stoopid.:o

BigG
October 20, 2003, 01:50 PM
Reading a little deeper into the text I think I found the answer: Winchester and several other firms received contracts from Uncle Sam to produce the Model 1911, however they were unable to get production started before WWI was over, therefore, the contracts were cancelled.

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