[Dollar Bill]

How many others like a good carbine? I gladly trade off the little velocity lost for a handy, easy to carry carbine. Here are two I have or had out of a collection of several different types.

[Dollar Bill]

Sorry, I tried to upload a photo from Yahoo and it didn't work so I'll have to do the image link thing. I'm not very good with computers.

[Dave R]

You bet. Huntin' in the woods, where shots will be reasonable distances, carbine is prolly the better choice. Handier, and don't need the extra 1-200 fps.

In the open, with longer shots, may need it.

Sporter rifles kinda blend the distinction, anyway.

I have been known to hunt upland with a carbine shotgun (HD model with 18" barrel.)

[OEF_VET]

I also prefer the handiness of a carbine over the bulkiness of a full size rifle. Yeah, I have to make some concessions in the realms of velocity and range, but in my book, it's a worthy trade. I don't see myself trying to make shots at anything further than 200 meters, so carbines are more than sufficient for my purposes.

Currently I own a Mosin-Nagant M44, an SKS, and an AK-47 which I would say is more of a carbine then a full-size rifle.

My only functioning full-size rifle is an Arisaka Type 99.

Frank

[Ed]

I seem to have gravitated that way also, I have a Win M70 Carbine that I've hunted with for 12 years. Never had any complaints. I also use a Guide gun and Mod 94 Winchester. Now that I'm into C&R I picked up a Jungle Carbine. I do really like them. Easier to cary, just as accurate and easier to pack.

[Schuey2002]

Yep.
I'd take the compact HK G36C over its full sized brethen anyday. That's if I could actually purchase one. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif

[Kaylee]

increasingly leaning that way myself.. put my 700 on the block a while back for a compact Ruger, and a heavy marlin 336 for a tiny little 1892 clone. I understand the "grow stronger" argument... and yet to me if feels the little ones come to the shoulder so much faster.

Or maybe it's just that they're so doggone cute :)

-K

(and BTW, Schuey -- a friend of mine who has a G36C (Title II manufacturer) -- has reported a fair amount of frustration with the thing. Gas problem leading to feeding problems I think -- if you're interested I'll ask him for more details. Apparently the full length versions didn't have the same problems though. Maybe the same tuning hassles they had with the shorty AR once upon a time?)

[DMK]

I've got M-44s, M-38s, M91-59s, SKS of all flavors, an Enfield Jungle carbine, a cut down 18" barreled FAL, a SAR-1 AK, and a 9mm Marlin Camp Carbine. I'm thinking about a short .357 lever action next.

I could never really get into unwieldy rifles.

[Brian Williams]

You gotta get a 1894, I have a C which is 357, but any one is a Hoot to shoot

[Schuey2002]

Gas problem
:uhoh:

Details, -K. I need details.

FWIW, I have heard of people (with SL8's) who have shortened their barrels (from the factory length of 20+ inches down to 16 inches) who had problems with their rifles "short cycling". The cure to that problem was to open up the hole (on the end of the gas port) with a drill bit. I wonder if your friend is experiencing the same sorta problem. Hrrmmmm. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Another thing to look at are the 3 "gas rings" on the gas piston. The ends of these 3 rings can not be lined up with each other. They need to be offset, one over here( <--), one over there (-->) and so on.. If they are "lined up", these guns do tend to start acting goofy.

(Tell your friend if he's still having "gas problems", maybe he ought to look into taking a Gas-X or two. That 'gas problem' will clear right up! ) Hehehe. :D

[litman252]

I'm not sure if there is a cutoff when they are not carbines any more but I love my Savage 99F and 94 in 30-30. Just put a peep sight on the 94. The only true (in my eyes) riffle I own is my mod. 70 in 7STW.
It does not even have a scope yet, no need to shoot it, great price though.
Tony

[Hkmp5sd]

I have many of the C&R carbines, but my two favorites are my M4 (M16 lower - M4 upper) and my stainless Mini-14 w/ folding stock. For some reason, one or the other always wind up included during trips to the range. I should buy stock in the companies making the 5.56mm ammo.

[Brian Dale]

Why not ask me if I like chocolate, too? :D

Yes, for the way they handle. Kaylee's "cute factor" doesn't hurt, either.

[280PLUS]

m,,,

:D

[Bob F.]

If I can hold the rifle in my left hand , just forward of the trigger/balance pint, and the muzzle clears the groung (or snow) it suits me oh so much better!!! Love the carbines. Getting ready to scout scope my Model '94 Swede and get my boy (20 yrs old) a 1994 lever in .44, I think!

[Schuey2002]

a friend of mine who has a G36C (Title II manufacturer) -- has reported a fair amount of frustration with the thing. Gas problem leading to feeding problems I think
I sent an email to LarryG36 (he owns/shoots these guns on a weekly basis) and asked him if he had ever heard of any G36C having "gas problems", his reply was..

" Thats an ammo problem, it's NOT the gun. "

(He also gave me the phone number of his shop outside of Las Vegas if anyone (of interest) wants it, ;) )

[Onslaught]

While showing him my new gun safe, a good friend recently commented that he "just doesn't know what to think about a guy who doesn't own any guns that can reach up to the barrel rack in their gun safe" :)

I live in Georgia, so the only place I can SEE 500 yards that doesn't involve interstate is at the Fort Benning Rifle & Pistol Club. I have only one rifle that is specifically put together for long range shooting, and even it is awaiting a trip to the gunsmith to shorten the barrel to 20". My next longest rifle barrel is 16".

I'll take a little extra recoil and a tad bit of velocity loss for a shorter, lighter weight rifle every time.

[Kaylee]

Schuey -- yup, just chatted with the fellow on my end again. The action was short-stroking.. lower pressure in the shorter barrel didn't always give enough oomph to move the carrier properly. Usually with cheap ammo.

Seems an easily fixed problem, but then if "it's the ammo" is good enough excuse for the AR problems, it's good enough for the G36 problems to. :)
I like the drill to the gasport idea personally. But then, I didn't fork over God knows how much for the voondergun. :D

-K

[Schuey2002]

Yeah, I don't know if I could summon the cajones to take a drill to a G36 either. But, then again, it can be easily fixed (if you did FUBAR the gasblock by pulling a Norm Abram, :uhoh: ) by driving out the drift pin, sliding off the gasblock and replacing it with a new one. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[clint1911a1]

One of my all around favorite carbines is Springfield Armory's M-1A Scout Rifle. Makes an awesome carbine and is very handy and well balanced for a .308 battle carbine. I hope to own one soon as I already have the full size version and have several mags.

[jar]

It's amazing how much difference even just a couple inches makes in the field. I like the old lever actions and although I really like my Marlin for use in open country, I find that in woods or bush the shorter Winchester SC is just far more pleasant.

http://www.fototime.com/DEF60E21D90717C/standard.jpg

[Benjamin]

This afternoon I had a chance to fire a Marlin guide gun in .45-70.

18" tube should qualify it as a carbine, right?

I'm in love. I know a rifle weighing less than 7 pounds should kick when firing 405 grain bullets, but it doesn't. Maybe there's something to leverguns after all....

[Dr.Rob]

Funny I just realized the barrel of my Savage 116 is 22 inches and 2 of those are muzzle brake.

Hmmmm... does that qualify? Probably not.

Carbines are handy, light and easier to carry. So... why is it called a 'scout rifle' and not a scout carbine?

[labgrade]

I'm not sure where a carbine starts & a regular rifle stops - re barrel length.

Carbines = shot rifles, seem to do very much what I'd want them to do = be handy (lightweight is a very nifty thing for me), quickly pointed & deliver a decisive shot (which does include the sighting mechanism + caliber).

I'd guess a segue into the Scout Rifle platform would be advisable somehow.

I shoot primarily a Rem & in .308 for big game & my all-told all-round fave rifle for "all things."

It doesn't have the forward scope (but is a compact 2X8) & doesn't have the ejector well clearance of a forward mounted scope, nor a detactable mag ... I figure an "on the run" replacement of rounds" wouldn't be that much of a "bad thing" & I am well used to a low power scope at "normal" eye relief.

I've a couple fat-barreled rifles & they do their job much better than their lighter cousins admirably. They're heavy, but they're much more accurate too - that's their design.

Other than having to do a defensive thing against any of NA's offerings of the large pedators, I'd bet I could do anything this continent has w/a carbine.

Carbines, as I understand 'em rule the roost for the most applicables.

[Black Snowman]

I like my new Bushy M17S bullpup (http://home.kc.rr.com/bsmith1952/img/Guns/HeldM17S.jpg) at only 30" long it's very compact and with the 21.5 inch barrel I'm not even giving up any velocity. It's a tad hefty, the trigger is a bit long to pull and the iron sights bite but I knew all that going into it ;)

I'm tempted to get one of the Mossberg bullpup pump shotguns and start a theme :) I'd really like a CAWS (http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Shotguns/HK_CAWS.htm) but since they never got beyond the prototype stange and were select fire I don't really see that happenning.

[James Bondrock]

Here's a plug for the Ruger Mini-14. For anti-personnel use, it needs better (more than five-shot) magazines, but now that I am in Nevada they should be easier to obtain. Just before I left California, I heard the Minis went on the assault weapon list. :rolleyes:

[Feanaro]

I'm as close to a cruffler as you can be without a C&R license. Rifles with less then twenty inches of barrel are carbines and unfit for any duty. ;)

Really though, I prefer long arms. I have no particular reason but I've never been bothered by weight to length and I enjoy them. I like carbines too, they serve their purpose.