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NG VI
May 21, 2009, 10:38 AM
And now I can't unload it and break it down to repair the damage. She also replaced all my oil with water. The shotgun is a Mossberg 500 Persuader, loaded for HD, and I cannot get the slide open to save my life. Thank God I found out about this before I ever needed it for a home defense situation.

I need help, what should I do, has anyone had a similiar thing happen to them? Should I try to use a hammer to pound the forearm down and open? Right now it is stuck halfway open, I cannot finish the cycle or close the action at all. Tried pounding the stock against the floor while holding the forearm, it didn't budge.

Thanks guys. I was really pissed about the pristine 6" 586 and Model 28 that also went in the bath.

Old Fuff
May 21, 2009, 10:49 AM
I won't ask about the circumstances... :uhoh: :confused:

Pounding on the gun won't help, and may make things worse. I would take the gun(s) to a shop that had a gunsmith. He would know how to break the gun down. He could then either clean it up, or give it to you to clean up, and reassemble it again thereafter. If it makes you feel any better the Mossberg has an alloy receiver that won't rust.

Same advise holds for the Smith & Wessons.

edelbrock
May 21, 2009, 11:02 AM
Wow that sucks. I would try a gunsmith.

NG VI
May 21, 2009, 11:02 AM
I went to a good friend of mine's wedding, she hates him and everyone else I know, and while I was out a different friend of mine who she has been getting more and more catty towards sent her a couple of less than respectful text messages after having some bad ice cubes. She put two and two together and came up with 47. She assumed I told him to do that and that we were together at the time, and so she lost her mind.


She also put my CZ 452 and AR-15 in there. I was impressed with the AR, it still had water stting in it but was completely fine. I am glad my PCR and kadet kit were with me though.

NG VI
May 21, 2009, 11:03 AM
No one else has had a Mossberg 500 dunked and left alone for a few days?

DammitBoy
May 21, 2009, 11:13 AM
Two things you should try:

7) Give it a bath in break-free / clipit

K) Stop pissing off the wife

NG VI
May 21, 2009, 11:14 AM
K) Stop pissing off the wife

It's difficult when I don't actually have to do anything to set her off.

rcmodel
May 21, 2009, 11:21 AM
Sounds to me like maybe you should get all the guns out of the house.

The little wife sounds like she shouldn't have easy access to any guns, or knives, or hammers, or -------.

rc

lipadj46
May 21, 2009, 11:21 AM
Try soaking it in break free, liquid wrench, WD-40 whatever you have and let it sit over night. You could use a heat gun or hair drier to heat the receiver up a little to let the oil thin and soak in good. The try putting a piece of wood on the charging handle and tapping that with a hammer. Tap it both ways to try to loosen it (open and closed).

Sounds to me like maybe you should get all the guns out of the house.

The little wife sounds like she shouldn't have easy access to any guns, or knives, or hammers, or -------.

Seriously ask that bobbit guy that got his junk removed via his crazed wife.

xmanpike
May 21, 2009, 11:23 AM
I agree try Break Free, or maybe Kroil as well. It seems to get into tight spots.

ArmedBear
May 21, 2009, 11:25 AM
I'm with rc.

I'd be awfully pissed off about the damage to the guns, but I'd also be really concerned on a whole other level.

A woman in this state of mental health should never have had access to them! It's a good thing nobody's dead.

You may be used to this stuff, but believe me, this is an indication of some REALLY SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL, AND POSSIBLY PSYCHIATRIC, ISSUES. This is NOT NORMAL, and this is NOT just what marriage is about. There's friction between two people, and then there's TOTALLY CRAZY. That's what this is.

Good luck, man. This stuff isn't easy to deal with.

DammitBoy
May 21, 2009, 11:28 AM
I suggest getting a really big gun safe.

Then you could hide in it.

Southern Rebel
May 21, 2009, 11:30 AM
In this instance, she took her anger out on your possessions. The next time, she may apply the solution to the source of the problem. She seriously needs some counseling in anger management.

In the meantime, you can pay the money to the gunsmith to fix it right, or you can pay the gunsmith to not only fix what is now wrong with it, but to also fix the damage that you are about to do to it by forcing the mechanism.

c.s.barlow
May 21, 2009, 11:34 AM
+1 Kroil
I have used it allot around the shop, they don't call it the oil that creeps for nothing. It may be your best bet but I personally would follow it up with a visit to the gun smith just in case.

NG VI
May 21, 2009, 11:35 AM
There was also a lot of damage to my clothing, including writing 'dirty' and 'cheater' on my uniform boots. Army property, luckily I had an older, smaller pair still.

Thanks for the advice guys, and dammitboy you've got some great ideas.

Eightball
May 21, 2009, 11:41 AM
The problems in this thread are myriad; good luck fixing your problems, gun-related and otherwise.

ArmedBear
May 21, 2009, 11:42 AM
I'd take pictures of any damage you plan to repair, and keep all the other stuff as evidence for the restraining order and annulment proceedings.

....which I'd start today, since it's a business day.

But that's just me. I'm married, but I would never choose to live like that.

3pairs12
May 21, 2009, 11:58 AM
Reading this thread makes me realize my wife is not crazy. Breakfree works wonders and you had probably start looking into safes!

blkbrd666
May 21, 2009, 12:00 PM
Geez! If you're one to keep receipts, you may want to call the inlaws and see if you can return it.

jakemccoy
May 21, 2009, 12:04 PM
Wow, I'd consider the damaged gun to be a lesser problem.

DammitBoy
May 21, 2009, 12:08 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, and dammitboy you've got some great ideas.

I'm on my third wife so far - so I'm not too bright, but I have plenty of experience with crazy. :D

TimM
May 21, 2009, 12:10 PM
Things to do in this specific order;

1) Replace the wife.
2) Replace the Mossberg.

mgkdrgn
May 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
Sounds to me like maybe you should get all the guns out of the house.

The little wife sounds like she shouldn't have easy access to any guns, or knives, or hammers, or -------.

rc

+1 on that idea.

Guns and that woman don't belong in under the same roof. You may decide for yourself how to resolve that problem. :evil:

Dravur
May 21, 2009, 12:47 PM
Lots of Oil, break free and mild heat..

and a Divorce.


and im not kidding.... I had a wife like that and the divorce was the happiest day of my life.

H2O MAN
May 21, 2009, 12:48 PM
DammitBoy I suggest getting a really big gun safe.

Maybe a shipping container that you can lock the wife in and ship her off to Somalia.

Omaha-BeenGlockin
May 21, 2009, 12:56 PM
Break-free-- a good safe--and last but not least---cut her loose and get on with your life.

Life's to short to put up with stupid or crazy people---esp crazy women.

DammitBoy
May 21, 2009, 01:40 PM
crazy women

There's another kind?

Badger Arms
May 21, 2009, 03:09 PM
First things first. Make sure there is no ammo in the magazine tube. As others have said, soak it in Break Free. As the name implies... well if you haven't caught that yet, it'll be hard to explain now.

There is no gun that is rusted so bad it can't be opened up. The Mossberg is no exception. You can punch the takedown pin out of the trigger group and pry that out. Take the stock off (rust on one side only as the other side is aluminum). I've got a big sheet of 3/4" thick rubber so I'd take the gun without the stock and, holding the forearm, wang the back of the receiver against the rubber. Not hard enough to break anything, but it should open up enough to get the bolt carrier and bolt out with that treatment.

If it doesn't, you can insert a rod down the front and whack at the bolt itself a few times.

Rshooter
May 21, 2009, 03:11 PM
My first wife put my clothes and uniforms in the middle of the floor and tried to burn then in a 90 unit apartment when I was out in the dirt. Been married 25 years this time, there's better women out there...:)

ArmedBear
May 21, 2009, 03:19 PM
there's better women out there...

Of all the blessings in the world, starting out with very low expectations is possibly the greatest of all.:)

grumpyguitarist
May 21, 2009, 03:32 PM
Get a divorce if you are gonna cheat.

RockyTop
May 21, 2009, 03:38 PM
Ah. So there could be a legit reason for putting shotgun in the bath. hmmm.

CorpITGuy
May 21, 2009, 03:41 PM
Get a divorce if you are gonna cheat.


No evidence of that in this thread.

I agree with all the others... and I SERIOUSLY hope you'll take heed to some of these warnings. She doesn't need to be in the same house with guns. It won't end well. Whether you stay married to her or not is your business, but those guns, if discharged, might just be used to kill you AND the baby sleeping in the apartment next door. That's serious stuff.

Good luck, buddy. You're going to need it! :(

W L Johnson
May 21, 2009, 03:44 PM
she hates him and everyone else I know
It's difficult when I don't actually have to do anything to set her off

Sounds just like my soon to be ex-wife, she has to be in complete total control of everything and I do mean total. She looked at me one day and said it was my duty to obey her. That's when the paperwork got started.

dirt_j00
May 21, 2009, 03:44 PM
Get the guns and ammo out of the house or in a safe.

Might want to try counseling.

Good luck.

oron
May 21, 2009, 03:58 PM
Happly never married.
have guns and dog.
oron.

grumpyguitarist
May 21, 2009, 03:58 PM
Women don't put cheater on things unless there is indeed cheating going on (or if shes completely retarded and overly jealous)

xmanpike
May 21, 2009, 04:01 PM
He said he was at a friends' wedding. I would get rid of her. You can fix a gun, you cant fix crazy.

Schutzen
May 21, 2009, 04:02 PM
Get a container large enough to hold your guns assembled and submerge them in diesel fuel for 24-48 hours. Then try to break them down and clean them. If you can remove the stocks before soaking them. Diesel will degrade wood.

Zundfolge
May 21, 2009, 04:19 PM
I'm honestly very surprised the Mossberg is so fragile ... was there something in the tub other than just water? Like rock salt or something?

Kinda makes me wonder how well a Mossberg would stand up out in the field if it freezes up after dropping it in a creek or something.

Maybe if you replace the Mossy, you should get their marine version :neener:



As for the wife, thanks for reminding me why I'm glad I never married one of the crazy women I dated.

ojibweindian
May 21, 2009, 04:25 PM
Women don't put cheater on things unless there is indeed cheating going on (or if shes completely retarded and overly jealous)

Uh, don't get out much, eh?

jakemccoy
May 21, 2009, 04:30 PM
Women don't put cheater on things unless there is indeed cheating going on (or if shes completely retarded and overly jealous).

I respectfully disagree. A woman who is (or has ever been) a cheater will project her behavior onto you. It sucks if you love her.

kingpin008
May 21, 2009, 04:33 PM
Women don't put cheater on things unless there is indeed cheating going on (or if shes completely retarded and overly jealous)

You've obviously never met my ex girlfriend(s).

NG - You've obviously recieved plenty of fine advice on restoring your guns as well as your freedom, so I'll just add one last thought that (suprisingly) nobody's touched upon yet. You mentioned that she had written on your uniforms and boots - If that's the case, then I'd report her to your CO and get started with filing charges against her for destruction of government property. I can't imagine Uncle Sam takes a favorable view on crazy wimmins mussing up their gear.

.cheese.
May 21, 2009, 04:35 PM
Women don't put cheater on things unless there is indeed cheating going on (or if shes completely retarded and overly jealous)

You missed the single most deep thought in this thread:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Omaha-BeenGlockin
crazy women
There's another kind?

Gotta agree with DammitBoy. NG VI - you should read about Brynn Hartman. I don't know why, but she pops into my head when envisioning your situation.

You've obviously never met my ex girlfriend(s).

Girlfriends? You should meet some of my ex-friends. I didn't even have to get into a relationship with them before they went nuts. Two X chromosomes do not seem to co-exist peacefully. I don't know why. No offense intended to our female members.

Seriously though, the guns here are not the primary problem. Worry about the guns later. Worry about your relationship first. I'm not a big fan of happy pills, but maybe your wife should consider them?

Bradym77
May 21, 2009, 04:42 PM
By the end of my marriage I had no friends that would come near her and no money for anything but gas and lunch. Now that I'm free again I have friends around all the time and money to play with again. Life is too short to spend it with somebody who makes you miserable for no good reason.

Why are divorces so expensive??? Cause they're worth it!!!

atbarr
May 21, 2009, 04:49 PM
Life is too short, for this kind of crap.

Good Luck,

A.T.

guns4craxx
May 21, 2009, 05:03 PM
yo, my wife is a wacko bleeding heart liberal, who hates my guns and hates the money I spend on reloading shooting and collecting guns

that aside, she isn't so thick as to destroy items so obviously worth a goodly amount of money, even in the 'good' times

I would have to agree with some previous posters, you should highly think about locking those guns up in a safe or some other unavailable location, and get in some couples therapy and or possibly get your wife some serious psychiatric help before something tragic happens.

Jim Keenan
May 21, 2009, 05:04 PM
I am no psychiatrist, but I think destroying the guns was just symbolic. She really wants to destroy you, but the penalty is too great so she substitutes your possessions. Unless there are some mitigating circumstances, get out before she harms you.

Jim

Polar Express
May 21, 2009, 05:14 PM
I'm very sorry to hear you are in this situation, it can't be easy. I hope you find a solution soon. You have my condolences.

omegaman
May 21, 2009, 05:27 PM
"Sounds to me like maybe you should get all the guns out of the house.

The little wife sounds like she shouldn't have easy access to any guns, or knives, or hammers, or -------.

rc"

ummm, yep

Schofield3
May 21, 2009, 05:33 PM
Lots of Oil, break free and mild heat..

and a Divorce.


+1

RandKL
May 21, 2009, 05:59 PM
I'm honestly very surprised the Mossberg is so fragile

They're not, Zun. That's why I'm finding this thread more and more comical and less and less believable. Hell, let's be honest. I stopped believing it two pages ago.

rich

Winston_Smith
May 21, 2009, 05:59 PM
and a Divorce.

Yup, I doubt she will get less crazy as she gets older. Might as well nip this one in the bud.

Sorry about your shotty, I would try soaking it with Kroil.

Badger Arms
May 21, 2009, 06:33 PM
They're not, Zun. That's why I'm finding this thread more and more comical and less and less believable. Hell, let's be honest. I stopped believing it two pages ago.

Water + bluing = Rust. God didn't make this equation too complicated. The Mossberg is easy to open because it's got an aluminum reveiver. Steel on steel seems to swell and take up space. Lots of the folks up in Alaska treat their guns like shovels, if it works, don't do anything to it. Mossbergs are really finicky with the shell stop and interrupter getting rusty and sticky. A few passes on the Arkansas stone and some wire brushing clears that right up. Gun functions again, customer is happy.

paintballdude902
May 21, 2009, 06:37 PM
pbblaster and soak the entire action

i remember a thread a while back of a guy repairing a rem 1100 that went thru a flood

Zundfolge
May 21, 2009, 06:58 PM
Water + bluing = Rust.
Ok, I buy that, but the formula is actually Water + bluing + time = Rust.

Can it rust overnight?

RandKL
May 21, 2009, 07:08 PM
Water + bluing = Rust. God didn't make this equation too complicated.

Wrong, Badge. You left out the oxygen and time part. Steel submerged fully in water has little free oxygen and thus takes time to rust. It's a slow process. Unless he's one of those traditionalists who "take a bath every month whether they need it or not", it's going to be mighty hard to dip a gun into water and have it rust solid over night.

I once had a customer bring an old Western Field 550 into my shop for "servicing". He had found it in the trunk of a wrecked car that had sat in a junkyard for a decade or more. The wood was mostly rotted away and the mag tube had rusted from the inside. It was loaded with some old Federal paper shells that were rotted, too. It took about two hours of cleaning and polishing but most all of it was perfectly serviceable. I replaced the mag tube and spring, the ejector, the stock, and cut the rusted muzzle off the gun for him and as far as I know, he's still using that gun to this day.

I've had customers that have dropped their guns (not just Mossbergs) into lakes and ponds and went back and retrieved them the next day. One day's soak in water won't even ruin the stock if it's good quality wood. Hell, I've seen shells that fired after being submerged in water for hours.

Unless that woman fully degreased his guns, hung them up and sprayed them alternately with vinegar and salt water, there is practically no way it could be rusted solid over night.

rich

Coronach
May 21, 2009, 07:13 PM
Seriously? You have a serious marital issue that you need to address. That is far more important than any damage done to the Mossberg, because this is something that will eitehr cost you someone you love, or will cost you a LOT of money, or both. Concentrate on the big thing while you put some Kroil on the small thing and let it sit.

Mike

DRYHUMOR
May 21, 2009, 07:24 PM
NG never said if it was loaded or not, I'd get a wooden dowel and approach it from the barrel side. If the bolt will take recoil- it ought to take a few stout blows from a hammer through the dowel.

As for your other problem. I'd sleep very very lightly. If I was foolish enough to sleep in the same house in the first place.

RandKL
May 21, 2009, 08:15 PM
NG never said if it was loaded or not

What he *did* say, Dry, was the part that no one seems to be noticing.

He said the bolt was halfway open....all he needs to do is strip it. There's no need to ram the bolt backward, pound it on the ground, dowel it etc. Simply remove the barrel, pop the trigger group pin out, and everything else will fall out.

I still say he's pulling your collective legs, though.

richard

rscalzo
May 21, 2009, 08:32 PM
It I were you, I'd try and find a gunsmith with an ultrasonic cleaner. That will clear all of the water from the internal areas.

Coal Dragger
May 21, 2009, 08:37 PM
Never mind your Mossberg, what you need is a divorce lawyer. Fix the root of the problem, not the symptoms.

iiibdsiil
May 21, 2009, 08:42 PM
Soak them in some transmission fluid.

Steven Youngblood
May 21, 2009, 08:49 PM
Take it from a navy vet, that was married to a nut.
I had 10 years in and my wife took my daughter to her parents and told me if I did not get out that, that was the end. I got out.
A year later she ran off with an old boyfriend from high school.
I would have been retired at 38.
I did not take the advice of my father and friends, and stay in the military(where I was happy).
If she is doing these things now, it will only get worse.
There are many,many more good women out there.
The spread is about 4 to 1, dump her fast.

Badger Arms
May 21, 2009, 09:09 PM
He said the bolt was halfway open....all he needs to do is strip it. There's no need to ram the bolt backward, pound it on the ground, dowel it etc. Simply remove the barrel, pop the trigger group pin out, and everything else will fall out.

Just by going by what he says, if the bolt is jammed halfway open, it won't fall apart. To get the bolt all the way back would take some effort. I'd normally believe that this was a troll, but since I'm just peeking at 1's and 0's right now, I'll take it at face value.

Would like to see picture of gun, though.

offroaddiver
May 21, 2009, 09:51 PM
Get ride of wife and get new toys.

+1 on ar15 reliability though.

Maelstrom
May 21, 2009, 10:11 PM
The troll solution is easy, post a picture of the rusted guns.

Maverick223
May 21, 2009, 10:23 PM
NG, I guess it is a good thing, for her anyway, that you couldn't chamber a shell in that scattergun. :D Thank God I have never had to deal with an issue like this, but the Kroil and Break-Free ideas sound plausible to me. Personally I would refrain from using diesel or transmission fluid, but I have never needed to, and never tried it, so I can't say that it would cause damage.

Maverick223
May 21, 2009, 10:25 PM
Oh and I forgot this...
http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Maverick223_album/ThreadPitchers.jpg

RandKL
May 21, 2009, 10:33 PM
if the bolt is jammed halfway open, it won't fall apart.

But there's only one receiver part on that gun that's screwed on and that's the ejector. The rest are all held in by the positions of the other parts. The halfway open bolt unlocks the barrel so if you unscrew the barrel attach nut, the barrel comes out. If you pop the trigger group pin out....and rust won't stop it from coming out because it's attached to an aluminum piece and a plastic piece....the trigger group, which is plastic and can't rust, pops out. With the trigger group out, the shell stop and interrupter, both attached to nothing and only held in by the trigger group, pop right out. With the bolt halfway open, the bolt carrier is in the strip position and only held in by the trigger group and shell stops so it pops right out. With the bolt carrier and barrel off, there's nothing holding the bolt in the gun. With the bolt out, the shell lifter isn't fastened into place....squeeze it and it pops out.

The only possible thing that would explain the bolt being frozen halfway open like that with rust is if the bolt rusted on both the right and left sides and the shell lifter rusted. With those two parts rusted, the shell lifter would gall as it tried to slide over the bolt. It's a lack of leverage situation. Strip it down and remove the bolt carrier and the bolt can be pushed out the front of the receiver, though. You have all the leverage you need that way.

If that gun were left in a mud hole for a few weeks and honestly rusted stiff in that position, it would still be strippable as I said.

richard

Badger Arms
May 21, 2009, 10:42 PM
With the bolt halfway open, the bolt carrier is in the strip position and only held in by the trigger group and shell stops so it pops right out.

Yeah, we're assuming the bolt carrier is far back enough. I'm assuming you're not posting the disassembly instructions for me. The OP says that the bolt is halfway open. I'm assuming that this means that the shell is halfway extracted... thus about 1.5" of bolt movement. I don't have my Mossy here, but I don't think that's far enough yet for it to fall apart.

jmr40
May 21, 2009, 10:44 PM
Sounds like the perfect excuse to upgrade your gun and wife at the same time.

model of 1905
May 22, 2009, 12:48 AM
I say keep the guns in the house, get the wife out.

Zundfolge
May 22, 2009, 12:56 AM
I still say he's pulling your collective legs, though.
NG VI has been a member here since December of '07 with almost 2000 posts and no signs of shenanigans in the past ... I seriously doubt he's lying.

Also, in retrospect, HE never said anything about rust, just that he cannot get the slide open (several of us later inferred that it was rust or some other water caused problem).

I suspect she did more to this shotgun than just toss it into the tub.

Hammerhead6814
May 22, 2009, 01:00 AM
If you have any pipe cleaner, dip it in some grease and see if you can't squeeze some in there. If you can at least get the action moving, you can get it working. Take it apart and do a good job cleaning and oiling the parts. Then go out and buy a safe that she can't open.

If you cannot do that, then the only thing that is going to save it is a good gunsmith.

Badger Arms
May 22, 2009, 01:05 AM
I suspect she did more to this shotgun than just toss it into the tub.

Please, don't go there. :what:

RandKL
May 22, 2009, 01:22 AM
NG VI has been a member here since December of '07 with almost 2000 posts and no signs of shenanigans in the past ... I seriously doubt he's lying.

Also, in retrospect, HE never said anything about rust, just that he cannot get the slide open (several of us later inferred that it was rust or some other water caused problem).

Good point, Zun.

My point still stands, though. There's nothing stopping him from simply popping out the trigger group pin and see what the problem is. I can not for the life of me believe that, with all of us so experienced with guns, no one seems to have considered that.

With the bolt halfway open, he can still simply press the shell stop and unload the mag tube. The barrel is also unlocked from the bolt....remove it from the gun and you have access to the last round if it was chambered. The bolt/shell isn't in battery and the trigger group is removed thus it can't possibly go off.

richard

BHP FAN
May 22, 2009, 01:37 AM
''In the meantime, you can pay the money to the gunsmith to fix it right, or you can pay the gunsmith to not only fix what is now wrong with it, but to also fix the damage that you are about to do to it by forcing the mechanism...''

seemed like pretty darned good advice to me.also,please get at least a $129.00 gun cabinet from KMART,or Wallyworld.I know the military doesn't pay it's people that well,but you personal firearms should be secured,for a whole variety of really good reasons.Good luck,bro.

mljdeckard
May 22, 2009, 01:47 AM
My wife has just assured me, she will leave maintenence to me. She is also CERTAIN it wasn't an accident. :)

Maverick223
May 22, 2009, 02:07 AM
I suspect she did more to this shotgun than just toss it into the tub.
That may very well be...and could change the whole ordeal...was there any evidence of bath bubbles? :D

NG, where are you, you haven't been around in a while. Of course if my guns had met with a similar fate it might be a while for me too...but still check in.

DBR
May 22, 2009, 02:52 AM
NG VI:

Either this is April fools or you have a serious problem.

For someone to knowingly try to damage or destroy another's best possessions is either sick (mental health issue) or very hateful.

It has been said that there is the same energy in love as there is in hate and they can be interchangeable.

If what you described is true then she is seriously pissed about something. Whether or not she has a real basis for her anger you have to deal with it and come to some resolution that is mutually satisfactory and will be final and not fester.

If you cannot do this then you have a real safety problem in your home not just about guns and you have to resolve it.

If you have done nothing to provoke this response you have a wife who needs help. If you have provoked it then you need to either resolve it or leave it NOW!

If your story is true you have much more important issues than fixing the guns.

inSight-NEO
May 22, 2009, 03:02 AM
Man, absolutely no comment on this one. I would simply be pissed off beyond words.

DBR
May 22, 2009, 03:19 AM
insight***:

I don't understand your last post at all!

JohnKSa
May 22, 2009, 03:27 AM
Your guns are the least of your worries, you need to assess your situation and deal with the real problem.

Would you mow your yard while your house burned down?

inSight-NEO
May 22, 2009, 03:37 AM
insight***:

I don't understand your last post at all!

I was referring to the OP and the situation regarding his wife. This should put my previous post into the proper context.

armoredman
May 22, 2009, 03:45 AM
I am so glad I have a loving wife...

Kind of Blued
May 22, 2009, 04:24 AM
Make her buy you new ones.

Seriously.

DRYHUMOR
May 22, 2009, 05:41 AM
Could be the best thing to do is to simply sell it off at the flea market... :evil:


And then take your guns to a good gunsmith and try to work a "group" rate to check then out and do what needs to be done. :D

Zangetsu
May 22, 2009, 06:58 AM
Has anyone recommended some weapon shield yet? If that stuff can't get parts unstuck, I don't think anything but a professional can.

NG VI
May 22, 2009, 06:52 PM
Women don't put cheater on things unless there is indeed cheating going on (or if shes completely retarded and overly jealous)


This one does. I saw my friend from high shool Marie earlier out in public, so she assumed we were getting together.


I have been talking to my NCO, Tuesday I go in to see the state JAG, she said she destroyed everythin I own earlier this aternoon. Luckily I am carrying both my Glocks and have my FNP, PCR, and Kadet kit in the trunk, so they are safe from her.

NG VI
May 22, 2009, 07:04 PM
NG never said if it was loaded or not
What he *did* say, Dry, was the part that no one seems to be noticing.

He said the bolt was halfway open....all he needs to do is strip it. There's no need to ram the bolt backward, pound it on the ground, dowel it etc. Simply remove the barrel, pop the trigger group pin out, and everything else will fall out.

I still say he's pulling your collective legs, though.

richard


This is my first shotgun and I am not terribly familiar with them to begin with. I can't see any rust on it, the tube is full, the chamber is empty, the forearm an action are slightly retracted from when I came home three days after the event and tried to unload it so I could take it down and clean it. I'd love to post some pictures, but the bigger problem is acting up again and I am not home. I guess it might sound unbelievable. Your prerogative.


NG VI has been a member here since December of '07 with almost 2000 posts and no signs of shenanigans in the past ... I seriously doubt he's lying.

Also, in retrospect, HE never said anything about rust, just that he cannot get the slide open (several of us later inferred that it was rust or some other water caused problem).

I suspect she did more to this shotgun than just toss it into the tub.


Thanks Zundfolge, and you are right, I don't see any rust on it, and she very likely threw it around before or after the bath. Good thing for her I don't keep the chamber stoked too, or I could have a very different post up right now.

NG VI
May 22, 2009, 07:08 PM
Sorry it took me so long to get back, I don't have a computer right now, so THR access is kind of spotty. I'll try what RandyKL has been talking about later, sounds like he's got some good experience breaking these down.

Hav a great Memorial Day weekend everybody.

CSA 357
May 22, 2009, 07:13 PM
D i v o r c e then buy you a 870 , if im mad at you i dont mess with your stuff, i mess with you, what will she do next? Lifes to short to live like that, good luck! Csa

juk
May 22, 2009, 07:21 PM
Don't know if anyone has suggested it yet, but a product called "deep creep" found at auto parts stores should free everything up unless there is something physically done to prevent proper operation. Just make sure to clean everything really well when it comes apart.

General Geoff
May 22, 2009, 07:24 PM
Wife or not, something this serious calls for a police report and charge of destruction of property, along with a civil suit for damages.

Some people might say "it's only money." Well, in a capitalist society, expensive property directly translates to money spent, and money spent directly translates to time spent earning said money. So by destroying your gun collection, she is in effect throwing away significant chunks of your life that you spent working and making money.

NG VI
May 22, 2009, 07:27 PM
Can I do that? Hopefully this will be a relatively pain-free process, quick at least.

76shuvlinoff
May 22, 2009, 07:40 PM
just be careful you don't end up with a gunsmith bill more than a new Mossey.

'course these days who knows?

DAVIDSDIVAD
May 22, 2009, 08:02 PM
Yes, man; press charges and be done with her.

I know what it's like to be trapped in an unhealthy relationship. Trust me man, it's like a bandaid: you just gotta rip it off.

Maverick223
May 22, 2009, 08:12 PM
I'd love to post some pictures, but the bigger problem is acting up again and I am not home. I guess it might sound unbelievable. Your prerogative.
I believe you (and am sure you will add pictures later)...but get your stuff (everything) out real quick like...before it gets worse! :banghead:

Noxx
May 22, 2009, 08:15 PM
In short, that ain't right.

My wife is my best friend. Jealousy and the ridiculous decisions associated with it are for middle school romances. If she treats you like that, she doesn't respect you, doesn't love you, just assumes she possesses you, like a favored pair of earrings.

Hell with that noise. Life's to short to live on someones leash.

W L Johnson
May 22, 2009, 09:29 PM
Remember the old saying

Women marry men in the hope they will change but they don't
Men marry women in the hope they don't change but they do

rscalzo
May 22, 2009, 10:26 PM
charge of destruction of property

Married = community property

Travlin
May 22, 2009, 11:02 PM
What if your wife provokes you into a screaming match that the neighbors can hear, then calls the cops and claims (falsely) that you hit her? Or goes for a restraining order? You could permanently lose your right to own a gun, as I understand it.

She already demonstrated that she knows where to hurt you. Better start documenting her behavior with other people and save those defaced clothes. Then ask yourself if this is how you want to live.

Pardon me if this was mentioned before but I skipped pages 2-3.

rbernie
May 22, 2009, 11:45 PM
This is a shotgun forum - not a marital advice column.

If the guns still need attention, start a thread in the Gunsmithing forum (without the backstory, please).