[JMPhoto]

What do most of you using Hiviz sights seem to prefer for sporting clays or skeet, the red/orange or the green? I find sometimes the green gets lost amongst the trees. Just curious what others are using.

[Cuzzin]

Exactly - keep several colors on hand depending on what the background is, colors of the clays, and time of day. Different colors (even the white one) just stand out under differing conditions.

I sometimes use a different green than the one that is the shade of the background of trees - especially if it is getting toward dusk - it just glows!

[oneounceload]

Here in FL, those that use them, (I personally do not), seem to prefer a red or orange color.

I tried shooting a friend's gun with one, but found I was looking at the sight and not focusing on the target, so I went back to my beads.

[Pete409]

I've used red and green. Right now, I prefer the green. It is a much lighter green than the foliage on the trees, and besides, the sight is glowing while the green/brown background is fairly dark and dull.

I suppose that if you were shooting where the leaves were light green, that a red might work better. Try them both out and see what works for you.

Some people say that the sight is distracting to them, but I find it very useful. It helps me to see the lead better when shooting crossing targets. For that matter, it helps me see where the muzzle is pointed on ANY type target. Just remember to keep your cheek firmly on the stock when shooting.

[Cougfan2]

It helps me to see the lead better when shooting crossing targets.

Agreed. I also like the green sight. As someone said earlier, it is a lighter green than the foliage, especially here in the NW. The brighter red and orange colors tend to distract me. The green seems to be a nice compromise, at least for me.

I was on the skeet range on day and a gentleman in our group who had never used one asked me if he could try it. By the end of the round he wouldn't let me leave until I sold it to him. :) Hope he's still enjoying it. I bought another!

[Badger Arms]

Red works good with trees in the background. Green works good with sand, mud, or dirt in the background, IMO, or a cloudy sky. Orange works pretty well against a blue sky.

[Bailey Boat]

I personally use the white one all of the time. I only use it to get my head welded correctly and then I never see it after that, only the leading edge of the bird.......

[BerettaFan]

None of the above. Illuminated beads cause, IMHO, "bead checking" which results in more lost birds. As the eyes move from the clay coming out of the house, back to the bead and, then back to the bird it slows down the brain to trigger finger reaction time, and messes up the swing and timing. Remember each time you change your focus on something the brain has to process that information and then send instructions to the various muscle groups in order for them to react. That in turn changes the dynamics of the swing, your assessment of where the bird is, and causes you to have to increase or decrease your swing and/or lead. All the time the clay is moving through the air at approximately 80 feet per second. And, since it's only 21 yards from the house to the crosssing stake that means that you only have about .7 seconds to see the bird, establish your lead, and pull the trigger. Switching your focus from the bird, to the bead, and back to the bird eats up precious time and throws your timing off.

If the gun is fitted properly, mounted correctly, the swing is made from the waist and not the arms, and focus is held on the clay, then the shotstream will go where you're looking. You'll see the barrel in your peripheral vision and know that it's in front of the clay (or at least should be. But focus on the clay and forget the HiViz.

When I train new skeet shooters I put a small black elestic band over the bead. They student gets no bead to look at. If you read enough Bender and Batha literature (and shotgunworld.com) you'll get the idea. You may want to consider a coach to help you with your mount, swing, gun fit, etc.

Best

Beretta Fan
NRA Certified Shotgun Instructor
NSSA Level I instructor

[pbrktrt]

I use the Easy-Hit because you can't see it unless you have the proper cheek weld. I find the orange to be best all around. Works for me.

[Pete409]

What works for one shooter may not work at all for another. Fiber optic sights are a good example of this. If all the Big Dogs in the clay shooting sports agreed on one method or technique, then they would all do they same...... but they don't.

Bobby Fowler and Jon Kruger are two good examples of top notch sporting clays champions who DO use the fiber optic sights. There are many more who also use them.

I agree that they are not for everyone, but for many people, they are very beneficial.

This subject of fiber optic sights is but one of many in which even the top pros disagree. It's the same thing with autoloader versus over/under; one eye versus two eye shooting; fixed chokes versus changeable chokes; swing through versus sustained lead; etc, etc, etc.

For every pro or top dog that advocates one method, you can find another pro who advocates a different method. No one pro or top level shooter has a lock on knowing what method or technique is best for everyone. Anyone who thinks so is only fooling himself.

Try the different things/methods and see what works best for you. Also, keep an open mind on the subject.

[ArmedBear]

Which color bead?

Brass-colored.:D

I had Hi-Viz on one gun. Damn thing was soldered on, so I had a gunsmith replace it with a threaded brass bead.

I was taught that if your eyes were on the target, you'd hit it. If your eyes are on the end of the barrel, you'll miss.

That's been true for me. And glowing thingies distract my mind from the target, shifting my focus involuntarily to the end of the barrel at the wrong times.

[Hollywood Marine]

I prefer green, but my brother prefers red. Go figure. It would seem to me that it is a matter of which shows up better for you, without attracting your eye so much that you see the bead instead of the target. (If you are looking at the bead, you will miss the target.)

[Colton White]

dag gummit i cant figure out if i shoot better with em or without em for me i shoot about the same lol i wish there was a best color and size bead but there aint

[ArmedBear]

i wish there was a best color and size bead but there aint

I think that's true. I've known a very good shooter or two who REMOVED the beads from their guns altogether.

[Cougfan2]

For every pro or top dog that advocates one method, you can find another pro who advocates a different method. No one pro or top level shooter has a lock on knowing what method or technique is best for everyone. Anyone who thinks so is only fooling himself.

Nail squarely hit on the head! :)

[buttweavil]

The easy hits seem to have the best folowing they can be found on ebay for a very low price